Hi exilluminati treasure

i give you this i am Ziba it was my name given to me by my father the one who put life into a lump of clay......which was to be called Adam......i do love you intensely all of you and that is why you do not have proof because proof would eliminate you choice to have the free will to find God for yourself........even though i would love to simply appear before every last one of you in all my glory to show you that God is amazing and God is real....and that i am who i am but instead i offer you this i am Ziba i come in the name of he who is the great I am........either way i can say it over and over and not change you mind....it just plays out the rules of Godthe truth is a seed.......the ability to deny ignorance is a simple seed i'm tossing them out trying and trying but as long as your remain unfertile land you will never know truth even if it were to stare you in the face you will never be able to find freedom unless you allow yourself to be fertile ground and accept the world and the universe as it really is......but regardless of what you believe now you could try with all your might to believe God is not real it would not stop him from existing

Originally posted by thestatue
i give you this i am Ziba it was my name given to me by my father the one who put life into a lump of clay......which was to be called Adam......i do love you intensely all of you and that is why you do not have proof because proof would eliminate you choice to have the free will to find God for yourself........even though i would love to simply appear before every last one of you in all my glory to show you that God is amazing and God is real....and that i am who i am but instead i offer you this i am Ziba i come in the name of he who is the great I am........either way i can say it over and over and not change you mind....it just plays out the rules of Godthe truth is a seed.......the ability to deny ignorance is a simple seed i'm tossing them out trying and trying but as long as your remain unfertile land you will never know truth even if it were to stare you in the face you will never be able to find freedom unless you allow yourself to be fertile ground and accept the world and the universe as it really is......but regardless of what you believe now you could try with all your might to believe God is not real it would not stop him from existing

Yes, but how do you define freedom? I define freedom as- Having no miserable job to report to, no taxes, no interest, no fear of any law that might sweep down on you like an eagle on a rabbit, because it conflicts with your interests. If those obsticals to freedom can't be removed then you must to have enough money and power to overcome them.

Okay, in all honesty with genuine thought here, why must you refer to God as he?

A being at the spiritual level who can create life from dust has obviously evolved well beyond physical gender incarnations.

So why not say, "I come in the name of SHE who is the Great I AM"?

According to many religious texts, man and woman were created in the image of God. Thinking about these claims can only lead to realizing that God is a spiritually evolved being who must encompass both genders. Obviously the Creator dwells on a very different plane of existance.





[edit on 3-9-2007 by tellmeallyoursecrets]

Originally posted by thestatue
proof would eliminate you choice to have the free will to find God for yourself

the real choice is whether or not to believe the "proof." However, this excuse was probably the best I've heard. I can't show you proof, it would prevent you the pleasure of finding out for yourself

reply to post by tellmeallyoursecrets

alright just to clarify God made Adam(man in his image......then took a rib from adam(man) to make women.........so there you go God made man in his image...........and as an excuse yeah i makes for a good one but its more than a find out for yourself because Faith provides you with a reward and i wouldn't want me to be the cause of you losing that reward unless God absolutly asked me to

I cant believe this thread has been going for almost 5 months...

Well Believe it Man....
Because it has

thestatue....so far you haven't provides us humans with info. I have great faith in my father God, and have been trying for the last couple of years to find him and the truth. So as most of the "humans" including me....give us something we can take, analyze and seek the truth on it. You say you want a direct question. I will give you only three. Please answer them.
1) Who shot JFK?
2) When will the illuminati take over?
3) What is the best way to make contact with our creater and be enlighten?

Why can't angels use the shift key correctly?

What can you say about anyone on this site that can be verified?

Can you say anything that you haven't first googled the answer?

reply to post by harvosky


1) Who shot JFK? an hit man hired by members of the illuminati that did not like the idea that JFK had the chance to start revealing all the hidden things like for example Noah's ark in a facility in Nebraska the shroud of moses in the torch of the statue of liberty, and initiate the events that would lead to their take over.......you wont find that on Google
2) When will the illuminati take over?well you see this depends on if they are gonna be able to get a few people in gear because there are certain people they need to do the right things in order for them to actually take over the 9-11 events were supposed to start them but i defected and took from them a very important part of the plan so it put a major kink in their plans
3) What is the best way to make contact with our creator and be enlighten?pray everyday sacrifice your time to take time to just let him talk to you.....

i am not saying this guy is real- or that i even know -
it does not matter to me as much as the fact that
it's sad when people can't ever believe, in fear of being wrong, or teased by their peers......
i made that mistake once, and teased the wrong people.
They were definitly who they claimed to be.
as impossible as it seemed.
i almost lost my life , and the lives of 2 friends and 2 of my children.
BUt i am blessed to have always been close to God.
Are you willing to put your life on the line , just to tease someone? what if....................just what if.........................
wouldn't it be safer to just quietly observe rather than mock if there is any possibility that God is involved

of course, this excludes all you atheiests.......i realize that to you we all sound like we belong in straight jackets....so just skip over my little section here.........theres nothing i can say that has any substance for you.............iam renee
i no longer just believe..............................
i know
and it ain't nothin' nice.........the whole thing in reality is very very SCARY
i am talking about the good as well as the evil
can't explain -you'd have had 2 be there
but even Gods "good" angels's presence is scarier than any of our Tv or movies bad guys


i wouldn't dare clown or mock one ......................but......of course this is due to my already having done just that and learning the hard way....
theres my 2 cents

other than that.....................CAN'T CALL IT!!!!!

[edit on 6-9-2007 by lenisey]

Let's consider how many versions of the Holy Bible are available. And remeber that each of these versions result from editing of previous editions.
Has anyone read "The Lost Books of Eden, The Hidden Books of The Bible"? When I read this, it felt as if I had recovered parts of a book that had been ripped out by an earlier reader. Very interesting and rather enlightening.
And I found it cause for thought when I noticed how much of the material edited out of the Bible concerned women of influence. Could this be because men were in charge of the editing?
I'm not picking on either sex here, I am just tossing out viewpoints that I've developed over the years as I try to further my relationship with Our Creator.

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do not be confused with such earthly, human , petty issues when contemplating The Lord, for it is truly irrelevant .....humans have created millions of problems, issues, stress, even bills & taxes....all of which have no bearing at all upon whats really going on.....men are men ...women are women and each have different qualitys that the other does not in order to compliment one another
HOWEVER....One fact is actually true, woman was created FOR man.....but , if a woman knows how to be a Real woman...she will know that her man would jump thru hoops and die to protect and care for her....so honestly,,what harm is in letting him be the "big shot"?????
we real women know who really calls the shots!!!....let alone who brings every one of us into this world........so relax with the women are not treated fairly.....i am a woman...and i do not know any one of us who would give their right arm to see a man (any man naked)...........but ......well......enough said

Originally posted by lenisey
i am not saying this guy is real- or that i even know -
it does not matter to me as much as the fact that
it's sad when people can't ever believe, in fear of being wrong, or teased by their peers......
i

It is not so much not believing as much as what is there to believe? Unless a person/god/angel can back up their claims I do not think making an account on a site to post is the proper method to deliver one’s message.

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no my friend you are right this site or any site is not the proper place the proper place to give out a message would indeed be on national television but sadly i cannot pull that one off the fact is there are thousand who do come to this site in all the different regions so in effect i am able to try and give the correct information to the masses which is what is needed the information of God and all things dealing with the truths about the dark powers that be the illuminati have done terrible things and so many people do deserve to hear about it sadly it seems though i am bound by rules that prevent you from trusting anything than my word because as it stands that is my proof that i have said it is my word is the proof of anything that i do indeed say.....on further note of who or what God is in scripture Jesus is asked by a apostle "what does God the father look like?" Jesus replies"have i taught you nothing anyone who has seen or meet me has seen and met the father" so i mean i could provide you with a lot of proof but like anything it can be fought against that is why i offer to you my word God created man in his image and likeness......friends simply put it there are truths and well even the truths still can be fought but being that they are truths means they are that regardless of the fact that there are arguments against any number of them......God is real and an awesome being the Govt sucks and it hides to many things......and i am an angel here trying to offer some information regarding some of these secrets.........

Originally posted by thestatue


no my friend you are right this site or any site is not the proper place the proper place to give out a message would indeed be on national television but sadly i cannot pull that one off

So, basically, Jerry Springer can pull it off, but an angel can't.

Interesting.

Can you tell us something that we don't already know? About the future

no i am not a this is what the future holds in store for you....i am a these are the facts here deal with them type of Angel......i'm sorry....forthtelling not fortelling. so once again i say enough with the bickering over my identity and post so serious questions for me so i can help you.......i will not back down ever from trying to help you deny ignorance i will not back down from helping you obtain freedom i am Ziba the statue that stands solid and secure against all things i am rooted from the very foundation in heaven i will not be shook of knocked over deal with it and understand you are love and i only seek to help so please ask away my friends and brethren

Originally posted by thestatue
1) Who shot JFK? an hit man hired by members of the illuminati that did not like the idea that JFK had the chance to start revealing all the hidden things like for example Noah's ark in a facility in Nebraska the shroud of moses in the torch of the statue of liberty, and initiate the events that would lead to their take over.......you wont find that on Google

Yes you will. It's a well known conspiracy theory. I've read the Illuminati link before, it exactly what you've just said.

2) When will the illuminati take over?well you see this depends on if they are gonna be able to get a few people in gear because there are certain people they need to do the right things in order for them to actually take over the 9-11 events were supposed to start them but i defected and took from them a very important part of the plan so it put a major kink in their plans

Again, a common theory that others have said before. Heck, it's even my theory!

If you want to put a major kink on their plans why aren't you on CNN or FOXNEWS spreading the news?!? Protesting in the streets, etc instead of hoaxing on an internet forum

3) What is the best way to make contact with our creator and be enlighten?pray everyday sacrifice your time to take time to just let him talk to you.....

And we're all taught that from Sunday school.

For someone so "mystic", you've come out with theories which are already in the public domain. Plus, you answers are VERY vague and can mean anything.

Games up.

No offence, this ain't a good hoax buddy.

[edit on 13-9-2007 by infinite]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm totally convinced.

All hail Ziba! Holy angel of the Almighty and defender of humankind against the evil forces of the gubberment!

HAIL!!