Where is the Garden of Eden ?

Would it be possible to even see the Garden of Eden?..... I think Mars was the garden of eden. Maybe adam and eve were gunia pigs like the truman show on a planet born by some genesis bomb shot from earth.

to quote something from american dad

get me two tickets to the garden of eden!
...
what do you mean you don't fly to biblical allegories?

i think that the 'Garden', the place where the 'Adamic humans' were placed,
was dismantled by the ET genetic-scientists & technichins (creator & angels)
and 'they' went on to seed & engineer life in other sun systems.

as far as Eden...thats just another name, designation for the Land area of the planet.
The Eden area is more precisely that band of temperate zones on either side of the equator which has flowing rivers, where fruit & produce can have more than one growing season...and herds, flocks of animals forage.

Garden and Eden are two seperate components, imho,
one can say there was a 'Garden' in Eden or even of Eden
but there wasn't simply a Disney World sized place that eventually
got gobbled up by Oceans, Techtonic shifts, buried under ice, or struck by an asteroid/meteor impact...

nor was a 'G of E' a Genesis starting point at Longitude so-&-so X Latitude so-&-so,
that gradually but quickly spilled over into all the previously barren & desolate & plantless soil over the rest of the planet
(re; the Star-Trek movie 'Genesis' device)

keep reading, searching

[edit on 11-3-2007 by St Udio]

Originally posted by earth2
Would it be possible to even see the Garden of Eden?.....

Geographically if using the bible and genesis It seems to be located somewhere in what used to be call Mesopotamia.

The creation story in Genesis relates the geographical location of both Eden and the garden in relation to four major rivers (Pishon, Gihon, Hiddekel, Euphrates), as well as in relation to a number of named regions (Havilah, Cush, Asshur or Assyria) (see Genesis 2:10-14). This seems to suggest a setting in the ancient near east, specifically somewhere in Mesopotamia.

en.wikipedia.org...

Iraq seems to be the place where it could have been located.

Maybe 'Eden' was Anunaki experimental laboratory - something like Island of Doctor Moreau, under constant surveillance - so that experiment 'material' could not escape...or touch anything!

This new genetic bread was obviously very affrayed -when Anunaki through them out: cos apes were out in non restricted area.

I always heard it was in Missouri, somewhere near Columbia.

Ok, to be fair, that's what the Mormons say...

The Mormons even built a big church there with a spire/staircase and a fully furnished completely sealed room for Jesus's return (he's gonna be tired after the long trip back down afterall).

According to the details given in the Bible, it would be located in modern day Iraq.

Lots of biblical stuff in Iraq.

Originally posted by whiterabbit
According to the details given in the Bible, it would be located in modern day Iraq.

Lots of biblical stuff in Iraq.

What details would those be? Can you link them or quote them? Please?

Originally posted by marg6043
Geographically if using the bible and genesis It seems to be located somewhere in what used to be call Mesopotamia.

The creation story in Genesis relates the geographical location of both Eden and the garden in relation to four major rivers (Pishon, Gihon, Hiddekel, Euphrates), as well as in relation to a number of named regions (Havilah, Cush, Asshur or Assyria) (see Genesis 2:10-14). This seems to suggest a setting in the ancient near east, specifically somewhere in Mesopotamia.

en.wikipedia.org...

Ok, forget my last post, I see where it is Gen 2:10-14 now...

But why would Marge6043 leave out the very next sentence from that Wiki quote?

However, because the identification of these rivers has been the subject of much controversy and speculation, a substantial consensus now exists that the knowledge of the location of Eden has been lost.

??? Soooo... Maybe it was not in Mesopotamia (modern day Iraq)? I sure am glad I clicked on that link and didn't take her information at face value, seems a little misleading!

I'm sticking to Missouri, there are a bunch of Mormons around here that say it's there and I believe them (they don't try to trick me)!

Truely when the garden was around there were no geographic names we use today so those 4 rivers could just as easily be the Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, and Mississippi rivers yeah?! I'll rewrite that so you can better understad where I am coming from:

2:10 Now a river flows from Eden to water the orchard, and from there it divides into four headstreams. 2:11 The name of the first is Kansas; it runs through the entire land of Kansas, where there is gold. 2:12 (The gold of that land is wheat; corn and soy beans are also there). 2:13 The name of the second river is Missouri; it runs through the entire land of Missouri. 2:14 The name of the third river is Mississippi; it runs along the east side of Missouri. The fourth river is the Arkansas.

Originally posted by whargoul
But why would Marge6043 leave out the very next sentence from that Wiki quote?

However, because the identification of these rivers has been the subject of much controversy and speculation, a substantial consensus now exists that the knowledge of the location of Eden has been lost.

??? Soooo... Maybe it was not in Mesopotamia (modern day Iraq)? I sure am glad I clicked on that link and didn't take her information at face value, seems a little misleading!

Well, it's not misleading. The Bible just doesn't spell it out specifically. But from what it says, it would be in the Middle East anyway.

I'm sticking to Missouri, there are a bunch of Mormons around here that say it's there and I believe them (they don't try to trick me)!

Dude... I live in Missouri, too, and I know all about it. Unfortunately, there's just no reason to think (other than Joseph Smith) that it was ever there.

Truely when the garden was around there were no geographic names we use today so those 4 rivers could just as easily be the Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, and Mississippi rivers yeah?!

Well, actually, some of those names we do actually know where they were.

The Bible says a river flows out of Eden and splits into four fivers, the Gihon, the Pishon, the Hiddekel and the Euphrates. We don't know what rivers Gihon and Pishon refer to (or they may not exist any more), but the Hiddekel and Euphrates still exist and are very well known. Hiddekel is just the Hebrew name for the Tigris river, also. The Tigris and Euphrates are located in modern day Iraq.

Plus, if you need further evidence, Genesis specifically says (where it describes Eden's location) that the Tigris flows alongside Asshur. Asshur was the capital of Assyria, which is where Iraq is today.

It's possible Eden could've been further north than Iraq, like in Syria or Turkey, but that's about it. It was most likely (if the Bible is to believed) in Iraq.

Oh you are comical. Where is the garden of eden? While you are at it can you please find Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny too? I think I saw the tooth fairy flying around over your house last night so go check on her first, it might be easier.

If you buy this stuff then you might as well be fed lies intravenously because the thinking mind has already been short-circuited apparently.


Mod Note: Did you read your u2u's?

Also read this link please: No ridicule is allowed.

[edit on 28-3-2007 by TheBandit795]

Originally posted by god_of_wine
Oh you are comical. Where is the garden of eden? While you are at it can you please find Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny too? I think I saw the tooth fairy flying around over your house last night so go check on her first, it might be easier.

If you buy this stuff then you might as well be fed lies intravenously because the thinking mind has already been short-circuited apparently.

Before you go off insulting me, you might have checked out some of my posts in the other religious forums.

I am not a Christian, nor do I believe in that stuff. I was merely pointing out that according to what the Bible says, that's where Eden would be. I never said I believed in Eden, and I don't.

But you know what? If that's how you react to people who do believe in it, then I think that's unfortunate.

[edit on 28-3-2007 by whiterabbit]

Originally posted by whiterabbit
Before you go off insulting me, you might have checked out some of my posts in the other religious forums.

I am not a Christian, nor do I believe in that stuff. I was merely pointing out that according to what the Bible says, that's where Eden would be. I never said I believed in Eden, and I don't.


[edit on 28-3-2007 by whiterabbit]

You know, WhiteRabbit, it is funny how people assume things about others. It happens to me a lot. People say things on here about me at times that is completely contrary to all of my previous posts. When that happens, I do just as you did. I tell them: "Before you start making assumptions about me and what I believe, I suggest you look at some of the things that I have said on other threads."

[edit on 28-3-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

White Rabbit, your info is pretty interesting. And, I get where you are coming from, I do understand now.

I still, however, want to stick to my guns about Missouri. I feel that Joe Smith is the lesser unbelievable of the two unbelievabilities (did I just invent a new word, or slaughter the English language?)! And, I only say that because he is more contemporary then the Genesis author (there were 2 of them right?).

I'm trying not to offend, but what I was refering to as misleading was the partial quote that Marg6043 made. The begining of the paragraph seems to fit what he/she was trying to say and then dropped the rest. It, in all probability, was not a conscience effort on his/her part... I hope! It might just not have seemed relevent. AND, it is just Wiki afterall!

but didnt Adam and Eve get sent down to earth after disobeying God?

this is not a one line post....simply a question that stems from curiousity.

Originally posted by geek101
but didnt Adam and Eve get sent down to earth after disobeying God?

Uh... No. They didn't. According to the Bible, Adam got made from the dirt by God, and Eve was made from one of Adam's ribs.

Sorry for the one-liner, but what race was adam and eve?
Just Curious.

Originally posted by Blackdude
Sorry for the one-liner, but what race was adam and eve?
Just Curious.

the race that doesn't exist in real life. allegories need no racial explainations. does it matter to christians what race the prodigal son was? NO, because it was just a story, just like the rest of the bible.

The garden of eden is 15 miles SE of Ayr on the A713. LOL only joking.

Wasnt it supposed to be in Mesopotamia (as I think someone said) or check out this from David Rohl who says its in Northern Iran or Azerbijan or the like.

But then again its more than likely allegorical.


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Originally posted by Blackdude
Sorry for the one-liner, but what race was adam and eve?
Just Curious.

The Bible never gives their skin color.