**Official Bilderberg Rumours Thread**

reply to post by spines

If there is any real proof of these meetings, or their intentions, that would be wonderful, but it seems very much like every other NWO conspiracy: contrived in the imagination.

I would happily retract my statements if any degree of proof can be given to these meetings being held. Researchable and credible proof (not just some NWO specific book).

I personally don't know too much about these meetings, but having been in some "confidential" meetings with what would be considered very powerful people, I think they are more likely to focus on what those people really think needs to be done to help the world than a nefarious NWO plan. Of course, some of the attendees may be wrong, misguided, influenced by others, or just plain insecure power brokers with ego problems, but I suspect the Bilderberg meetings are not the meetings to be most concerned about. I wouldn't say the same thing about old, established societies with secret, anti-social ritualistic initiation ceremonies.

Speculate for a moment with me... you grow up wealthy and inherit power over the future of many people, or you reach a point in your work or business where you end up in a position of power and with absolutely zero personal financial issues. In any case, you are human, and no matter how noble your intentions, you are learning how to do better in your efforts. Your problems are, in some ways different than that of the average person, and based on Mazlo's pyramid of needs, your focus is on a set of issues that is different than most people. People in those positions, just as people in almost any position in life will have varying degrees of maturity and security/insecurity in themselves. At the same time, I believe they are people, and just like us, many will at least try to have noble goals.

The Bilderberg meetings were started by a number of people who were in positions of power and influence who felt, probably some for very different reasons, that it would make sense to get together as a global peer group and work towards improving things (I'm confident that's what they all say regardless of how any of the individuals may feel). Without any such peer group, I am sure that people separated in their responsibilities from the rest of society would fill that vacuum with something.

IMO, the whole Bilderberg conspiracy theory is not that likely, and the creation of such a group is more probably a natural outcome that would occur whether the people involved had completely nefarious or completely divine intentions. Some level of confidentiality would likely be required for people at that level to even be willing to involve themselves in such an event, but many of them would be interested in creating such a group. Since it is likely they didn't start off by knowing each other, it is unlikely that they will lay out an evil, secret agenda in such a global group.

As I said, I think it is more likely that old, established groups with anti or asocial initiation rites would engage in anti-societal behaviors than relatively recent groups formed by people across the world with a common interest of leadership. Of course, not being part of the group, I could be completely wrong, and this is all just my opinion. Unless we can someday be a fly on the wall, I don't think we'll get much more than our opinions about it.

reply to post by spines


You need to open your eyes and I mean open them now.

I agree. Bilderberg is not hear say. The best proof so far is "Endgame". Plus, absolute power currupts absolutly. When was the last time a group of people, who are soooo powerful that they were above the law, got together and anything good for common man came out of it. 90% of the time, if it's good for the common man, it's all the better for the rich man. Most of these Bilderberg types have at one point or another said that they want to destroy America, and that China is a model government. MODEL!!!!! If a government that maintains total control over it's people, it's leader's worshiped as idol's, and where political prisoner's outnumber the common criminal's is their idea of a model government, and now their getting together, nothing good comes from that, I asure you. These people do not have your's or mine best interest at heart. We are nothing but ant's to them. Most are from very old money, so they have no idea what what the common could need or want, not that they care mind you.

I know what they are doing but if i say something it gets deleted. I also can't say the web page which describes how the end is coming. You know they are the leaders of a linear religion with a end-of-day plan to fulfill. I did ask for permission.

"b billy Marse"
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The Simplicity of Space
Proof to Evolution Found in the Two Promoting Conditions

reply to post by spines


all u have to do to get a list of members is email them. i have one

Has anyone heard where the 2008 meeting is going to be at? If it's not too far I might hit it up.

Originally posted by Barcs
Has anyone heard where the 2008 meeting is going to be at? If it's not too far I might hit it up.

Romania was a possible location, due to NATO conference, but no information on it. All we know is the event will take place in Europe, maybe near the Black Sea. One source of mine said Portugal is looking as a "maybe".

That's it so far.

But, others are indicating rumours of either Germany/Austria or the Netherlands.

I heard that the 2008 meeting is going on right now in Greece. Does anyone have any other info? Can anyone confirm?

Heres my problem with the whole Bilderberg/NWO connection.
If you ever look at those guest lists that were eleased, theres no way all of these people are conspiring together.
For one, many of these people come from ideologies which are diametrically opposed.
For another, when you calcualte these peoples staffs, drivers, security, etc, the list of "bilderberg associates" literally numbers in the tens of thousands.

I find it far more reasonable, in light of the lack of evidence of "evil intentions" to reason that the bilderberg group is exactly what it claims to be; A gathering of the worlds most powerful people to discuss the important issues of the day.

Dutch Newspaper: Bilderberg To Meet In Washington June 5-8
A rough translation of the Dutch news report reads as follows.

Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende and Minister of Foreign Affairs Maxime Verhagen from 5 to 8 June a visit to the U.S. capital Washington.

On June 5 they received at the White House by President Bush. The Government has indicated that Friday.

Topics at the meeting with Bush would include the international political situation, including developments in Afghanistan, and economic cooperation between the United States and the Netherlands.

Following Balkenende takes part in the annual Bilderberg meeting, which this time will be held at Chantilly, near Washington.

source

Originally posted by Shazam The Unbowed
Heres my problem with the whole Bilderberg/NWO connection.
If you ever look at those guest lists that were eleased, theres no way all of these people are conspiring together.
For one, many of these people come from ideologies which are diametrically opposed.
For another, when you calcualte these peoples staffs, drivers, security, etc, the list of "bilderberg associates" literally numbers in the tens of thousands.

I find it far more reasonable, in light of the lack of evidence of "evil intentions" to reason that the bilderberg group is exactly what it claims to be; A gathering of the worlds most powerful people to discuss the important issues of the day.

If it was just a gathering, talking about current world issues (you know, that "world" we suppossedly live on where "we" have the issues) than they should make it public.

The fact is that it is a gathering of the world's most powerful people, in an extremely secretive manner, which indicates NWO conspiracy.

No one really knows however.

[edit on 27-5-2008 by foosheezy]

reply to post by Tuebor


It cannot be,

there is a rotation system like the G8. It was in North America last year and it means it will have to be in Europe or Asia (G8 is in Japan this year).

*edit*

My apologises, You might be right. Sources are saying it is likely to be Washington.

[edit on 31-5-2008 by infinite]

Originally posted by Souljah
Tomorrow the session starts in Istanbul, Turkey May 31-June 3.

Now this is where the things REALLY get decided.

Bilderberg 2007: Agenda and Participant List

This year’s delegation will once again include all of the most important politicians, businessmen, central bankers, European Commissioners and executives of the western corporate press. They will be joined at the table by leading representatives of the European Royalty, led by Queen Beatrix, the daughter of the Bilderberg founder, former Nazi, Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands and Bilderberger President, Etienne Davignon, Vice Chairman, Suez-Tractebel from Belgium.

• Aside from the Iraq quagmire, energy problems continue to dominate Bilderberger discussions. Oil and natural gas are finite, non-renewable resources. That’s because once used up it cannot be replenished. As the world turns, and as oil and natural gas supplies dwindle while demand soars dramatically, especially with Indian and Chinese booming economies who want all the trinkets and privileges of an American way of life, we, as the Planet, have crossed the midpoint of oil production and discovery.
  
  
• As the economic impact sinks in, and as the after effects of Peak Oil become evident in the face of breakdown of civilization, the United States will be forced to challenge Europe, Russia and China for the hegemony of control and the ever depleting hydrocarbon, non-renewable reserves most of which are contained in the Middle East. That will be point number two on the Bilderberg 2007 agenda.
  
  
• Third item on the agenda is European relations with Russia not only in Europe but also in Central Asia. With Moscow making a deal with Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan over the transport of gas to Europe, the US geo-strategic goal of driving a wedge between the Central Asian countries and Russia lies in shambles.
  
  
• Iran war, after two years of huffing and puffing by the Bush government is definitely off the table. Furthermore, with France, Russia, Japan and China investing heavily in Iran, the world has drawn a line in the sand and the U.S. will be told at the conference not to cross it. There is blood in the water, and blood in the water usually leads to a good fight.

Interesting items on the table for this year.

It is also interesting to see the entire list of attendees for this year's conference; a lot of powerful people shall be there. It looks like the Fate of EVERYBODY on this planet is decided by these few people, who think they are gods, who have for fifty years decided what shall happen in one of their many meetings that brings together unprecedented power and money. It is also scary that Bilderberg, one of the world’s most powerful secret organizations is run out of an 18m2 offices, staffed by one person, using one telephone line and a single fax number. There is no web page and no brass name plate on the door. No NOTHING! So how does that work?


Related Links:
Bilderberg.org
BBC: Bilderberg: The ultimate conspiracy theory
Wiki: Bilderberg Group
PrisonPlanet: Bilderberg Archive

Well the blank door is there for people who don't need the brass name plate.

They already know.

the bilderberg group is by defintion no meeting of illuminati members who want to bring the new world order because the guest list is different from year to year (atleast that is what I heard).
However that doesn't mean that the group isn't a instrument used by the illuminati. This is all just speculation but in my opinion the "officall rulers of the world" (presidents , bankers, big bussinuess man etc.) just need to sign some form garanteeing they won't say # in public and then they are invited. Here they are just told stuff like yeah we are going to invade iraq cause they got weapons of mass destruction blablabla you just should definitly join us blablablaa so you join us blalblaballa OK then thats a deal. Of course the people have no idea what the real reason behind everything is (atleas lots of them such as president balkende of the netherlands doubt that stupid harry potter character actually is involved in a conspiracy). It is just a good way of gettin the word out and preparing everybody so all the events orchestrated by the illuminati will go smooth without much trouble.

I'm going to pretend like i'm angry......RFID chip, Yup have one implanted in my left arm,Freeing UP RADIO WAVE's ALL digital TV.....Hmmmm.... What do RFID chips and Radio' Waves have in common? OH no I think i'm Getting PARANOID.............a Few doctors have offered to remove it, I declined for personal reasons. Maybe a future posting ?,lol

We paranoid yet? Yes?......Goood let's talk about.......The "Depopulation Agenda" Okay i have posted about the need to spread "Love"Blah Blah blah i know,lol. If we Loved more than ourselves, we would self depopulate, not through war or any other evil means, but through self regulation such as limiting child birth out of love for your present children, and the enviroment in which they will grow in.... etc. stop breading mindless consumers.

Were are NOT Equal.... Every RACE is inferior to another, Every RACE has a postivie quality that we all need and need to learn from in order to find balance.

Males and Females are NOT EQUAL, we all have well defined genetic roles, YET were all selffish. Btw my opinion is Women are the Superior SEX, history show's women were the providers, Males Provided shelter and protection and labor...ahh yes and the most often unsuccessful hunting trip.
Women fishing small game berry picking child raising cooking clothing fire wood etc.

WE As men need to stand UP as men and TREAT our Women as more THAN ourselves, if you do this you might catch a glimsp of what love really is OR you can continue to think your a man and sit on your butt and let your wive's take out the trash...

YOUR POSTING's , YUP your pissed and angry and the world has done you wrong my tears flow for you....lol What have any of you done to make change??????(See i'm angry

Originally posted by makaveli36
the bilderberg group is by defintion no meeting of illuminati members who want to bring the new world order because the guest list is different from year to year (atleast that is what I heard).
However that doesn't mean that the group isn't a instrument used by the illuminati. This is all just speculation but in my opinion the "officall rulers of the world" (presidents , bankers, big bussinuess man etc.) just need to sign some form garanteeing they won't say # in public and then they are invited. Here they are just told stuff like yeah we are going to invade iraq cause they got weapons of mass destruction blablabla you just should definitly join us blablablaa so you join us blalblaballa OK then thats a deal. Of course the people have no idea what the real reason behind everything is (atleas lots of them such as president balkende of the netherlands doubt that stupid harry potter character actually is involved in a conspiracy). It is just a good way of gettin the word out and preparing everybody so all the events orchestrated by the illuminati will go smooth without much trouble.

Thats the problem all long, i mean like,. they meet in secret, Not much info to go on, so ofc some will be speculation but its shrouded and for me too se this many pepole even norwegian politicians has attended these meetings, i mean its just scary, but its a big topic, i would love to get more info. so that we could get a clearer picture,

as u prob already know bill cooper predicted in june 2001 the bilderburg group would attack the a mojor center in the usa and use osama bin laden as a scape goat. bill cooper was killed nov 2001

Attending Bilderberger is forbidden by the Logan Act. I won't go into details. Look it up. It is a treasonous offense for unauthrized citizens to negotiate with foreign governments. And this is the EXACT purpose of Bilderberger. And the CFR for that matter.

That is the bottom line really. The NWO is NOT a "conspiracy theory". It is a PROVEN conspiracy. There is ample proof for anyone who can read. It is historic fact even. It is even admitted by the conspirators. But they do it in subtle ways over time as to not rile the sheeple. There is speech after speech given by leader after leader that proves this.

World leaders in politics and industry get together to discuss the future of the world and admit that's what they are doing. They do it at gatherings that are unlawful. They make decision without the OK of the People. That right there is enough proof.

Bilderberger is anti-American to the core. Those who attend should be tried and hanged for treason. This is the new face of FASCISM folks and it needs to be stamped out by real Americans.

Originally posted by Liberty1
Attending Bilderberger is forbidden by the Logan Act. I won't go into details. Look it up. It is a treasonous offense for unauthrized citizens to negotiate with foreign governments. And this is the EXACT purpose of Bilderberger. And the CFR for that matter.

That is the bottom line really. The NWO is NOT a "conspiracy theory". It is a PROVEN conspiracy. There is ample proof for anyone who can read. It is historic fact even. It is even admitted by the conspirators. But they do it in subtle ways over time as to not rile the sheeple. There is speech after speech given by leader after leader that proves this.

World leaders in politics and industry get together to discuss the future of the world and admit that's what they are doing. They do it at gatherings that are unlawful. They make decision without the OK of the People. That right there is enough proof.

Bilderberger is anti-American to the core. Those who attend should be tried and hanged for treason. This is the new face of FASCISM folks and it needs to be stamped out by real Americans.

That phrase "real Americans" has always reminded me more of fascism than anything coming out of the Bilderberg Group. These days, "real Americans" means undereducated people in rural states who know little of the world and care even less. I'll take the Bilders.