We wouldn't understand?!?

More and more often I hear or read about an encounter with greys. In the encounter the abductee will actually ask what/who are you and where are you from? The "company line" "you wouldn't understand". And then it's left at that!!!! Are you kidding me???

Ok now, next time any of you get abducted and get that answer.......please just simply ask them to try at explaining it!! I just cannot see myself letting it go right there.

I pledge if abducted ...I will follow up and not except those answers! You with me?

[edit on 28-2-2007 by WAZZIT32]

uh... yeah man.. sure.

but you first.

my butt is still sore from the last rectal probe I received from the "greys".

I would have asked then, but my hands were bound, and they couldn't understand me unless they took the ball gag out.



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[edit on 28/2/07 by masqua]

Originally posted by WAZZIT32
More and more often I hear or read about an encounter with greys. In the encounter the abductee will actually ask what/who are you and where are you from? The "company line" "you wouldn't understand". And then it's left at that!!!! Are you kidding me???

Ok now, next time any of you get abducted and get that answer.......please just simply ask them to try at explaining it!! I just cannot see myself letting it go right there.

I pledge if abducted ...I will follow up and not except those answers! You with me?

[edit on 28-2-2007 by WAZZIT32]

I have very heavy doubts about the physical reality of abductions, but if we accept for the sake of argument that these experiences are real, then no, they're not kidding. Not at all.

If these beings exist, they are at least one singularity past us, which is a new realm of experience that we don't have the conceptual equipment to understand. It would be like going back 5 million years in time and trying to explain the whys and wherefores of our modern existence to our ancestors.

I do admint, I myself have scoffed at the idea of abductions by aliens. BUT, if you believe in the President Eisenhower meeting, you kind of have to believe in abductions. Plus my mom once had missing time, long before I was born.

More and more I consider the possibility but i'm kinda on the fence...this must be the very definition of wishy washy!

Originally posted by WAZZIT32
I do admint, I myself have scoffed at the idea of abductions by aliens. BUT, if you believe in the President Eisenhower meeting, you kind of have to believe in abductions. Plus my mom once had missing time, long before I was born.

More and more I consider the possibility but i'm kinda on the fence...this must be the very definition of wishy washy!

I don't believe in the President Eisenhower meeting. Over the years, people have made up jsut about every possible story having to do with aliens visiting Earth. What is the evidence for this, and what does it have to do with abductions.

Well if said meeting did indeed take place, (admittedly one of the most outrageous claims of all time) it was agreed upon that the Geys, would gives us technology in exchange for controlled abduction scenarios. So if the Greys provided our guys with the names of people who they abducted and kept it to agreeable numbers, we could get advanced technology. This would give us a leg up on Russia.

Now Ike did have missing time, noone knew where he was, it was explained away as"emergency dental work". This is in the middle of the night. So, while I say it's an insane story, so is emergency dental works at odd hours of the night.

Perhaps we wouldn't quite understand. In listening to several people's interviews that supposedly have had contact with these creatures; Greys technology is to humans as Human technology is to trying to teach a dog calculus.

or something like that.

-edit my typo's-

[edit on 3/5/2007 by kroms33]

Yea but I can play that game too!

We cannot articulate to a dog that "you cannot understand" even. Aliens can do that!! They can communicate with us like we cannot to our dogs.

I cannot understand most things multidemensional(if such a thing exists) but, If you say I'm from the tekny dimension of dilar nufgistico, I get the idea.

Originally posted by WAZZIT32
Yea but I can play that game too!

We cannot articulate to a dog that "you cannot understand" even. Aliens can do that!! They can communicate with us like we cannot to our dogs.

I cannot understand most things multidemensional(if such a thing exists) but, If you say I'm from the tekny dimension of dilar nufgistico, I get the idea.

True - this first part is sorta off topic but it has a point to the above quote - but the rest is on topic... I just gotta share this with people its too funny (and true).

My dog loves balls - she ripped apart a rubber ball and she was sad all day long until I got her a new one, well actually I got her two. So now she actually has in her collection 4 balls, 2 small ones (that she loves to death) and 2 large ones. Now that she has her small balls back, she climbs into bed with me and my wife and sleeps at the foot of the bed, next to her ball. Today, my wife started laughing because - our dog decided that she wanted to put her collection of 4 balls underneath the coffee table and segregate them from the rest of her vast toy collection (which are kongs, and other squeaky toys) . It was the weirdest thing.

but anyways - I wrote this big thesis on how my dog understands this and that - but killed it. You are right. How about chimps??? we can teach them sign language - and they actually respond with emotional intent... Humans teaching Chimps Calculus??



[edit on 3/5/2007 by kroms33]

LOL...I really don't know. I'm not really sure anymore what my origional idea behind these thoughts were.

Was it that it was all too convenient so many abductees claim to get that answer that it must all be BS?

OR

The greys could tell us but avoid the question?

Maybe a little of both?

Could the truth be THAT horrible and earth shattering to our fragile minds??

I think the only things that would disturb us would either be:

1) if they were us from the future
2) the harbored ill intent for humanity

I don't know what the history behind 'them' is, what their plans are - or even if 'they' exist. I do assume they exist - but I don't know for sure.

It all depends what these alien creatures (Grey, Zeta's etc.) have in mind for humanity.

It is kinda funny that they tell abductees "You wouldn't understand."

I would be like: "Dude, you got me up in the middle of the night - beamed me up to your ship and are stuffing that thing in my *-*, you have some explaining to do. Make me understand, or I will have to find a new use for this probe that you are sticking in me."

Also, that is another great question I would like to bring up... has anyone ever came forward and said that they fought back?

I would like to pose another option to kroms33 disturbing thoughts would be:

3. They are from Mars before the red planet died out and human life could no longer exist. Half of the population came to Earth and lived here and called themselves Atlanteans. The other half took off in their ship to find another planet to colonize because they did not want to live here on Earth with the Neandrathals. After a long time passes the second half decides it is time to come home to their home solar system to see what happend to their family.

Now you are probably going to ask the question, but why are they grey and skinny. Well scientists have learned that space travel degrades your bone mass and the longer you travel in space the less bone mass you have.

Anyhow.. I just wanted to throw that thought out there.

WAZZIT32, I do agree with you totally, if I where abducted I would definately want answers.

I have given the thought a couple times that they are us in time machines and my explanation of greys varied just a little. I figured by 3000 we would evolve again.

Only problem is, I do not buy into evolution. Monkeys for instance.....they are STILL FRIGGIN MONKEYS!!!!

Originally posted by WAZZIT32
Only problem is, I do not buy into evolution. Monkeys for instance.....they are STILL FRIGGIN MONKEYS!!!!

I know we are not supposed to really say just one word posts so.. Amen to that!! I totally agree. I do not buy into evolution either.

That was more than one word

Well, it might seem logical since we cannot comprehend more than 4 dimensions! Some scientists are now saying that we live in a multiverse(many parallel universes) instead of just a singular universe. They are also claiming that there maybe up to 11 dimension instead of 4.

See en.wikipedia.org...(science) for more information. I think its a very nice read!

If this is the case then ufos and aliens can cloak/uncloak(enter other dimensions at will) and we would never know what is happening. This can explain: "I was watching and it suddenly disappeared and then reappeared"!

How can they explain stuff like that to us who still live in four dimensions? The additional dimensions can also explain, at least in theory, the ghost phenomenom...in other words the soul matrix of humans and perhaps even animals! Although their maybe a lot of religious interpretations involved with the soul/energy field theory, nonetheless almost all religions believe in the distinction between soul and body. The body is explained as a physical, non-permanent container housing the soul. When you die, the two are seperated and it is assumed by most that the soul lives in eternity while others think souls recycle into other life forms, hence reincarnation!

According to the Budhists, only the pure souls may join the infinite consciousness while the others reincarnate or remain restlessly roaming around earth and this perhaps explains ghosts! Entities, or energy forms, of higher dimensions may or maynot be visible to the average person but it is speculated that people with higher vibrations, people who can operate at higher frequencies, may feel or see them. Off course, this is just my speculation but it may go a long way in explaining psychic ability and perhaps even fortune telling!

Originally posted by WAZZIT32
I have given the thought a couple times that they are us in time machines and my explanation of greys varied just a little. I figured by 3000 we would evolve again.

Only problem is, I do not buy into evolution. Monkeys for instance.....they are STILL FRIGGIN MONKEYS!!!!

That is exactly the point! If biological entities, including monkeys, could evolve into humans than why wouldn't they all evolve into humans

Why would only some evolve and the rest remain monkeys

Sorry, it just doesn't add up for me!

I am on the fence regarding abductions, IMO they do not happen by aliens.

but playing devils advocate should someone be truely abducted by an "alien" or aliens AND have some sort of communication with them that they could UNDERSTAND. Then I would have to think the line "you would not understand" would mean either

A. they have no "time" so to them they just exist independant of decay having overcome entropy. The entire universe is "theirs" and they can come and go and visit any point in the time frame of any planet.

B. in reality they are not "aliens" but rather co-habitants of earth. Just think of them as another humanoid esq species of our very own planet.

C. they in fact are merely a temporal illusion crafted by a higher energy source in an attempt to alter ones life path.

D. they are really goverment agents and the abductee has been subjected to hypnotic suggestion to cover up something they should not have seen.

Originally posted by WAZZIT32
I have given the thought a couple times that they are us in time machines and my explanation of greys varied just a little. I figured by 3000 we would evolve again.

Only problem is, I do not buy into evolution. Monkeys for instance.....they are STILL FRIGGIN MONKEYS!!!!

I had a hard time buying evolution also. However it is how we came to be what we are today. Millions of years of evolution for the monkey with a large brain and the ability to walk upright. Humans are nothing special in this universe we are all just animals, we just happened to be in the right place at the right time and throughout time we evolved to be what we are today. Never forget that the earth was once a REAL Planet of the apes, and us and a few other primates are what is left of that time period after the mass extinction of tree dwelling animals. All this crap about atlantis, adam and eve, it is all BS. There is no scientific evidence to support any of it, there is scientific evidence that we evolved. Without the help of aliens....

Originally posted by SocialistAgenda

Originally posted by WAZZIT32
I have given the thought a couple times that they are us in time machines and my explanation of greys varied just a little. I figured by 3000 we would evolve again.

Only problem is, I do not buy into evolution. Monkeys for instance.....they are STILL FRIGGIN MONKEYS!!!!

That is exactly the point! If biological entities, including monkeys, could evolve into humans than why wouldn't they all evolve into humans

Why would only some evolve and the rest remain monkeys

Sorry, it just doesn't add up for me!

OK, sounds like you need to some very basic reading of the ideas of evolution. For a starter, I'd recommend Dan Dennett's Darwin's Dangerous Idea. His metaphor of the Library of Mendel is a great way for a layperson (like me) to visualize how the very complex process of evolution works over a long time. Then I think you'll know the answer.

Dawkins' The Blind Watchmaker is also a good basic read. Dobzhansky's Mankind Evolving is the book that turned me into an evolutionist, but that was decades ago.

Originally posted by disownedsky

Originally posted by SocialistAgenda

Originally posted by WAZZIT32
I have given the thought a couple times that they are us in time machines and my explanation of greys varied just a little. I figured by 3000 we would evolve again.

Only problem is, I do not buy into evolution. Monkeys for instance.....they are STILL FRIGGIN MONKEYS!!!!

That is exactly the point! If biological entities, including monkeys, could evolve into humans than why wouldn't they all evolve into humans

Why would only some evolve and the rest remain monkeys

Sorry, it just doesn't add up for me!

OK, sounds like you need to some very basic reading of the ideas of evolution. For a starter, I'd recommend Dan Dennett's Darwin's Dangerous Idea. His metaphor of the Library of Mendel is a great way for a layperson (like me) to visualize how the very complex process of evolution works over a long time. Then I think you'll know the answer.

Dawkins' The Blind Watchmaker is also a good basic read. Dobzhansky's Mankind Evolving is the book that turned me into an evolutionist, but that was decades ago.

Well ok, obviously when we say monkeys are still monkeys, this is a simplistic answer for a very complex question. I will read the information suggested but, I until now have seen no real proof of evolution past practical theory by people regarded as highly intelligent. This in turn is a lot like a wild guess..like the "Big Bang".