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Originally posted by Masonic Light
The ideas behind Thelema are not new, but the actual religion itself in its outward form was a Crowley invention (or perhaps it was Ra-Hoor Khuit, or at least Aiwass).
In modern usage, "Thelemite" refers to those who have accepted Liber Al vel Legis as the ground basis for doctrine, theory, and practice.
OK, so you've got 3 fake patents (from 3 supposedly different organizations, but all signed by the same person, I might add).
If you were trying to impress us, kid, you're going to have to try a little harder.
See what sweftl337 said about St. Germain.
Fortunately I've found that which points toward the esoteric teachings of Christ, and the teachings of Tibetan Buddhism(not the Dugpas of course).
As I've explained in another thread, I think it's somewhere between Aleister Crowley and the Church that we ought to look.
“The OTO was founded between 1895 and 1900 by a pair of powerful Freemasons, Karl Kellner and Theodor Reuss. Politically, the order was right-wing in the extreme, proposing the creation of a pan-German world based on pagan spiritual beliefs. Kellner died in 1905, and Reuss, a former spy for the Prussian Secret Service, assumed the office of high caliph. While living in London, Reuss spied on German socialist expatriates. In 1912 he made the acquaintance of Aleister Crowley, and appointed him head of the OTO's British chapter. But The Beast's [Crowley's] political loyalties have always been an open question."
The fascist character of Scientology can be seen in embryonic form in the Michael Howard's profile of the OTO and its infamous leader in England, Aleister Crowley, as described in The Occult Conspiracy:
"When he was at Cambridge University the young Crowley had belonged to a Jacobite legitimate society and had dabbled in extreme right-wing politics." (p. 112)
"Because Crowley had extensive contacts with the European secret societies his specialist knowledge was used by the SIS [Britain's Secret Intelligence Service] for 'Black Propaganda' purposes. Crowley had confided to the writer Aldous Huxley in 1938 when they met in Berlin that Hitler was a practising occultist. He also claimed that the OTO had helped the Nazis to gain power." (p. 135)
Howard and other historians of the occult societies credit OTO with introducing Tantric sex magic which supposedly opens up all Hermetic and Masonic mysteries that are veiled in symbolism. Possible Origins for Dianetics and Scientology, by Jon Atack, compares the symbolism and rituals of OTO and Scientology: "Many of the symbols of Scientology were taken from ritual magic. Hubbard was a member of the AMORC Rosicrucians in 1940 and performed sexual 'magick' ceremonies with Jack Parsons, a follower of Aleister Crowley, in 1946. The Scientology cross is very similar to the Rosicrucian and Crowley crosses. Hubbard also used the 'daleth' triangle of the Egyptian destroyer god Set as the Dianetic symbol.
"The theta symbol used by Scientology is the central symbol of Crowley's Ordo Templi Orientis, where it denotes 'thelema' or the will. It is the symbol of 'Babalon', the antichrist that Hubbard and Parsons tried to incarnate. The 'S and double triangle' motif of Scientology probably derives from the black magic use of the snake symbol (the 'wise serpent' or Satan) combined with a deconstruction into two triangles of the Star of David (rather like hanging the Christian cross upside down to signify devil worship). This symbol - the magical hexagram - was used by Hubbard and Parsons during their attempts at incarnating the anti-Christ in human form. Again, Hubbard shares the double triangle with Crowley, where the triangles stood for the 'Argentinum Astrum' or 'Silver Star', a name for Crowley's organization prior to his take-over of the Ordo Templi Orientis.
"Crowley's order - the OTO - had a common origin with the Thule group to which several members of the Nazi hierarchy belonged (including deputy party chairman Rudolph Hess). The sig rune - used by the Nazis - appears on the Scientology International Management Organization's symbol - a red square enclosing a white disc and set off by four such sig runes. The swastika of the Nazi flag has been replaced by the Scientology 'S and double triangle'. The symbol of the Religious Technology Center is surrounded by sig runes. As far as I can ascertain, the sig rune is otherwise peculiar to the Nazis.
If you're saying that there's a conspiracy to emasculate men, and turn them into cowards and gays, etc. then I agree.
At the same time, the goal of Alchemy is fuse the masculine and feminine poles within the Individual, through the Sexual act between opposite sexes. Which is really how the Man becomes a true Man, and how the Woman becomes a true Woman.
Also, if you were saying that the worship of the Feminine Principle is negative, I'd have to disagree. The Ancient Eastern AEthiopian Tantric cultures of the Indus-Kush worshipped the Goddess, and you can bet that there were hardly any gays there, if at all. Same goes for the Western AEthiopian culture in Kemet who worshipped the Goddess. The Elohim and the Christ YHVH are both Female and Male.
Or are you saying that the Jesuits and such are trying to suppress the Female Wisdom and keep it for themselves?
You quoted Rudolph Steiner, right? I know that Samael Aun Weor considered him to be a true Gnostic-Rosicrucian.
Whats so "evil" about Masonry any ways? What is it about us you don't like?
Originally posted by sweftl337
How convenient of you to try and make that claim? I ask you psilocybe to prove how they are fake?
Originally posted by Andy Warhol
As noted, Crowley died a wasted heroin addict given to rages and doubts. His last words were “I am perplexed…”
Iron Maiden lead singer Bruce Dickinson said: “… we’ve referred to things like the tarot and ideas of people like Aleister Crowley” (Circus, Aug. 31, 1984). Their song “The Number of the Beast” said, “666, the number of the beast/ 666, the one for you and me.” Crowley was called the Beast.
Originally posted by sweftl337
… they do not see what is staring them flat in the face. They await for CNN or for their Grand Master’s advice in these matters.
The 3 globes and a few of the older German lodges of the Prussian and not the humanitarian lodges were actually pledging support to Hitler. Hitler attacked the humanitarian Lodges.
Originally posted by Andy Warhol
Masonic Light face it Iron Maiden sucks, Crowley was a pervert, masonry is a joke, and you can't even lie like a good mason. You want to play the insult game lets dance I read all these masons comments and understand they can't take the truth about what a pitiful brotherhood it really is. I like the "masonic spin" you use with the term Irregular lodge. What a lie. Crowley was nothing more then glorified trailer trash like masonry. But then again being a mason I'am not surprised you would model yourself after a sodimite, heroin addict, coc aine addict, and child molester. I'am sure your parents are proud, I know I would be
Originally posted by Andy Warhol
Crowley studied Buddhism and Hindu yoga, following in the footsteps of Helena Blavatsky, and did much to popularize these in the West.
Leo Tolstoy
The one thing necessary, in life as in art, is to tell the truth.
Originally posted by Andy Warhol
sweftl337 I must disagree with you here...Rockpunk and Appak are two steps below dog crap.
And to want to be a member of a all male club who has done nothing good for the nation in the past 75-100 years.