Declassified Russian UFO video

Has anyone ever seen this footage? It does not look fake to me but I'm not an expert.


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[edit on 9-2-2007 by Digital_Reality]

Yeah, I've seen that before. I think it was on a fox special or something.

I'm pretty convinced it's fake.

It's a super-imposed image over stock flight footage.

What gives it away is basically how it moves in sync with the camera ever so slightly against the frame of reference clouds in the background when the shot encounters subtle bumps and jerks.

it looks like who-ever imposed this image over the original tried hard to minimize this flaw, but if you look closely and play it slowly you will notice it.

If you talk to any Hollywood video effects technician, this is one of the hardest video flaws to overcome when your original footage is all green screen, and you're trying to super-impose your subject image over a generated 3-d landscape in the background. You get a general shifting of your subject image against the background, where if all things are filmed "live" this does not happen.

To make this anomaly more obvious, think of it this way: If you have a spec of dirt on your lens and you are filming clouds, and you start to jerk your camera lens around, you'll notice the spec of dirt moves with the angle of the camera lens, instead of staying stationary with the background.

If something was truly far away in the background near the clouds, and you started moving the camera around, the object should appear to stay consistent with clouds, and not your camera lens.

I dont see any obvious signs that its fake.
Inconclusive I'd say.

I hate Hoaxers. They muddy the watter so much.If they spent half the time analyzing real videos/photos they would actually be contributing to something worthwhile.

Originally posted by Hamking
Yeah, I've seen that before. I think it was on a fox special or something.

I'm pretty convinced it's fake.

It's a super-imposed image over stock flight footage.

What gives it away is basically how it moves in sync with the camera ever so slightly against the frame of reference clouds in the background when the shot encounters subtle bumps and jerks.

it looks like who-ever imposed this image over the original tried hard to minimize this flaw, but if you look closely and play it slowly you will notice it.

If you talk to any Hollywood video effects technician, this is one of the hardest video flaws to overcome when your original footage is all green screen, and you're trying to super-impose your subject image over a generated 3-d landscape in the background. You get a general shifting of your subject image against the background, where if all things are filmed "live" this does not happen.

To make this anomaly more obvious, think of it this way: If you have a spec of dirt on your lens and you are filming clouds, and you start to jerk your camera lens around, you'll notice the spec of dirt moves with the angle of the camera lens, instead of staying stationary with the background.

If something was truly far away in the background near the clouds, and you started moving the camera around, the object should appear to stay consistent with clouds, and not your camera lens.

I've watched it a few more times am still not convinced its fake.I still don't see the "video flaw" . Could you elaborate more? The speck of dust example is not a good one because it does not look like a speck of dust or anything on the lens.

Looks pretty real to me and also fits in with alot of descriptions of the cylindrical UFO's who have been seen alot.

Originally posted by Digital_Reality
I hate Hoaxers. They muddy the watter so much.If they spent half the time analyzing real videos/photos they would actually be contributing to something worthwhile.

Or there may not be anything to contribute to at all...just saying.

Originally posted by MiahX

Originally posted by Digital_Reality
I hate Hoaxers. They muddy the watter so much.If they spent half the time analyzing real videos/photos they would actually be contributing to something worthwhile.

Or there may not be anything to contribute to at all...just saying.

I mean as in to spend their time validating photos instead of making fake ones.

Hamking pinpoints the same anomolies I noted, I agree. Most Probably...fake.

Originally posted by Digital_Reality
I mean as in to spend their time validating photos instead of making fake ones.

We'd have nothing to evaluate without hoaxers.

While on the topic of UFOs in Russia check out this supposed footage of a saucer recovery in Russia.

video.google.com...

How about categorize the basic shapes and sizes and learn to recognize the different types and the characteristics. Because of hoaxers we cant really do that because the Internet is so flooded with fakes you cant tell whats what.

I still do not see anything indicating a fake in this case. And it does look like a large object traveling at a fast rate of speed.

Originally posted by Lightman9202
While on the topic of UFOs in Russia check out this supposed footage of a saucer recovery in Russia.

video.google.com...

That to me looks very real. It would take allot to fake that one and for what reason? Looks to me like there is allot of info getting released from Russia.

[edit on 9-2-2007 by Digital_Reality]

I posted that clip ages ago and people tend to think it was fake(as like most clear footage). The clip was from....
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The Secret KGB UFO Files

I paid like $2 for it at a cheapo shop and it was well worth it.

Originally posted by Slickinfinity
Looks pretty real to me and also fits in with alot of descriptions of the cylindrical UFO's who have been seen alot.

So what you're saying is that because it kind of matches up with a lot of other dubious, unverified descriptions, photos and footage, that makes it more likely to be legitimate? How does that work?

So like the more a UFO looks like a Billy Meier saucer, the more likely it is to be real? Or does it have to match the description of the Roswell saucer, which we all know is "real?"

This kind of "logic" really makes me scratch my old head in confusion.

This video has been talked about before...

..the main flaw in this video is that it probably isn't russian. The video clips in the beggining show migs, yet the the actuall cockpit footage shows the back of an ACES II ejection seat which are not used in MIGs, but used in F-16's and F-15's, A-10's, B-1B's, T-46's, B-2's, and the F-22 Raptor.


So this video has to be a hoax, because they would at least get the info right if it wasn't.



[edit on 9-2-2007 by Connected]

Originally posted by Connected
This video has been talked about before...

..the main flaw in this video is that it probably isn't russian. The video clips in the beggining show migs, yet the the actuall cockpit footage shows the back of an ACES II ejection seat which are not used in MIGs, but used in F-16's and F-15's, A-10's, B-1B's, T-46's, B-2's, and the F-22 Raptor.


So this video has to be a hoax, because they would at least get the info right if it wasn't.



[edit on 9-2-2007 by Connected]

So the ejection seat is wrong, I guess it must mean the UFO is fake. How sure are you about the ejection seat? Is it possible you could be mistaken?

You are right I researched it. This is a Mig29 ejection seat

mig29 ejection seat

And this is a ACES2 ejection seat ACES2


at 00:22 it clearly shows the ejection seat to be just as you said.
I apologize





[edit on 9-2-2007 by Digital_Reality]

Originally posted by helium3
I posted that clip ages ago and people tend to think it was fake(as like most clear footage). The clip was from....
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The Secret KGB UFO Files

I paid like $2 for it at a cheapo shop and it was well worth it.

Don't worry mate, here all the things are always hoaxes, it's a hoax because it's too clear....but will be a hoax also if it was too unclear...so, no big deal

as i always say,,,,just post, if it is a hoax or not, each of us will just know.

its an alien worm!!!!!!!!!! or it could be nothing but your imagination.