Argentina to invade Falklands

Originally posted by SnakeSkywalker
people of the united kingdom and others countries are afraid of the terrorist, we not are afraid of the terrorist. well, this is a hard and long history. but i think im right.

Cya for now friends.

We're not "afraid" of the terrorist's. The establishment like to make alot of noise about the "threat", but in reality, it is much less a threat than the Irish were.

Don't worry about us...

Be afraid...very afraid

Originally posted by stumason
We're not "afraid" of the terrorist's. The establishment like to make alot of noise about the "threat", but in reality, it is much less a threat than the Irish were.

Don't worry about us...

Indeedy, the general consensus was that it was damned inconvenient as it gummed up the transport for a while, and disrupted tea drinking time..

Originally posted by Jimmy1880
Here is quite a good read:

books.guardian.co.uk...

It's interesting, but I'm unsure as to how truthful it is.

Firstly, it's for a book. Putting something like that in will obviously gain it a lot of publicity and thus potentially more sales.

Secondly, Thatcher and Mitterand didn't really get along. They were politically different - Thatcher was a Conservative, Mitterand was a Socialist. And we know how Mrs. Thatcher felt towards Europe

Also, I think Mrs. Thatcher knew that she couldn't have got away with nuking Argentina even though they'd invaded the Falklands. That would be absolute overkill and would have led to the UK being condemned by pretty much everyone. The nuclear option was absolutely out, and if I can see that then I'm sure the Prime Minister, her war cabinet and their advisers can. It's probably just the author of the book trying to make Thatcher and Britain look bad, so I'd take that claim with more than a grain of salt.

To address SnakeSkywalker's points, I think you're right. Bilateral relations between the United Kingdom and Argentina are on the mend and - whilst the Falklands issue hasn't been resolved - it would be a shame to see them fall back. More progress can be made, and I'm sure that's what both governments want. It's quite sad how a dictator managed to poison Argentine opinion against Britain considering the very good relations the UK and Argentina enjoyed beforehand despite the status of the islands.

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Argentina has tried using economic methods to take back the Falklands, but when the United States and the EU are the biggest trading partners, i doubt its going to cause problems. Don't forget the commonwealth too, another major trader partner. As a general said in the British Army, maybe Argentina should sort out its own economy first.

And, the pathetic idea of rallying support from South American allies is going to fail. The UK has a veto power within the UN, the France are supportive towards us with the Falklands too (due to them have disputes as well). America secretly supports the UK over the Falklands because if the US was ever to go to war with a South American State, the UK would let it use the Falklands as a base. Plus, we bring a balance of power to South America by having a major power like the UK in the area. Again, something the Americans support. Plus, the Falklands has oil. The major reason why America support British claim.

Originally posted by infinite
..the Falklands has oil..

and for that reason alone, the islands will remain a british terrotory

Originally posted by citizen smith

and for that reason alone, the islands will remain a british terrotory

Yep,

we need to keep warm somehow

I find it funny that Argentina claims these islands after the last Argentine left them over 160 years ago.

Thats like moving out from your home, leaving it derelict, then your descendants coming back 160 years later and claiming it is theirs.

Doesn't work like that people!

Thats our oil now...


(although, Tony "The Poodle" Blurrrgh did agree with the Argies over a potential revenue share for any oil extracted down that way... He seems hell bent on giving up British people to dodgy Iberian colonialist's with even more flimsy claims...He still is intent on giving Gibraltar back to Spain, even after the people there rejected such a move)

The French had the Falklands first,

but the Falklands have one potential deadly blow. Independence. There are lots of small countries within the Commonwealth and the Falklands would rather be independent than be apart of Argentina (I would not blame them either)

Originally posted by infinite
The French had the Falklands first,

but the Falklands have one potential deadly blow. Independence. There are lots of small countries within the Commonwealth and the Falklands would rather be independent than be apart of Argentina (I would not blame them either)

I doubt they would either want or even get full independance. At the moment, I believe they are doing just fine as an Oversea's Dependancy. The population isn't huge and if left completely on their own, the Argies would march straight in anyway. As a dependancy, they get self rule and the protection of the Homeland. They will also be the main beneficiaries of the Oil money. I do believe that as a result of the discovery of Oil, there are limitations in place as to becoming an Islander, to save a ruch of Gold diggers when they start handing out the Oil cash.

The people on the Falklands want nothing to do with Argentina, i think they would rather take independence and struggle. With oil on the island, it will remain an colony (if i may use that word) with the support of the EU and the United States. Argentina can shout and scream to the UN, but the UN cannot do anything because of the backing the United Kingdom has over the issue.

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Take That A Scum

If Argentina would ever invade again, they wouldn't last nearly as long, seeing as it is a British owned territory and the UK is allied with the USA and EU, and the fact that there is oil there, they wouldn't stand a chance. in the first war they only blew up those ships because sea-based anti-air was under developed and relied in missiles. where as now there is the ship based cannon systems. also, if the USA were to get involved their air force would be crippled pretty quickly i would think.

really if i were them i wouldn't invade, given the results of the 1991 gulf war with Iraq.

Wow heated topic,

Anyhoo, just let them invade again, see what israel done to lebanon? Think what the UK could do to benos aries eh......

And btw Maggie wanted to nuke Your city in the first falklands war, but didnt get the chance to, what makes you think that T.Blair wont use a nuke if you even think about attacking any major UK City..........

I am quite sure, that the UK public would demand retaliation against yas..... An we would make sure you lot wouldnt forget it......................

(just remember we have nuke subs somewhere out there (evil laugh)

So take the hint hands off the Falkland Islands or face da consenquences

Think yall would be rather foolish to invade again dont yous.

submerine fleet would redeploy to send out two subs to falklands surface fleet would come in mop up and then prepare an sea based launched bombardment of B A.

What a shame we don't have the Vulcan any more!

That'll show you, oh wait a minute it did!

personally i hope it doesn't happen, well the mainland invasion of Argentina at least, BA is a nice place i am told and it would be a shame if it were to be bombed to bits. for such reasons though i don't think that Arg would invade.

Why can't we?

they did it to us!

What a shame we don't have the Vulcan any more!

Aye, its oks we could ask our friends over the atlantic for a loan of a couple of B52's eh, a nice little payload of nukes or smart bombs would end any thought of invasion from Argentina on the Falklands, an would send a message to others who would think off attackin us, dont even go there.......... (maybe dats why Blair wants to keep trident or upgrade it, diff topic)

up the scots.

the scots and the english, the two most feared people ever put on this planet.

so hear us Argintina, we're coming

Originally posted by spencerjohnstone
And btw Maggie wanted to nuke Your city in the first falklands war

Actually, that might not be quite true. It was a revelation by the psychologist of François Mitterrand (the French President at the time). He didn't get along with Thatcher very well (she wasn't all that fond of many European leaders) since he was a socialist and she was a right-wing conservative. The psychologist, a man named Ali Magoudi, revealed it in his book... see the problem? A sensational claim like that would make book sales hit the roof. So I'd take it with a pinch of salt. As well as Mitterand not actually liking Mrs. Thatcher very much.

That being said, it wouldn't surprise me if she had said that

I doubt she meant she would actually order the use of a nuclear weapon against Buenos Aires, though. It was probably just to get Mitterand to give her the codes to disable the Exocet missiles quickly so that British lives could be saved.

[edit on 12/3/07 by Ste2652]