Iran to Establish "Nuclear Rights" and Announce AIDS "Cure"

Iran, as part of the celebration commemorating the Islamic Revolution in 1979, will announce in the coming days its right "to access and use nuclear technology," according to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Iran will also announce a newly discovered cure for AIDS.



The question is whether anything will come of this. I and others probably recall last August, when Iran postured and claimed that they would present a major advancement in their technology. They then failed to present anything of import other than a repudiation of the UN requests of them.

The AIDS claim is troubling here, perhaps moreso than the nuclear claim. Perhaps, by some miracle, it is a cure, but I think rational people would agree that it is probably not, especially because there is no scholarship on the question. The question then is whether this is a mistake by the scientists, or it is a bold-faced lie by Iran. I find the former difficult to pallet; Iranian scientists are generally brilliant in their own right. The latter should be unsettling.

Assume it is the latter. At best, it is a lie to the international community. In that case, it hurts Iran's image around the world and opens them to claims of posturing. It doesn't help the situation they are in, and doesn't make it likely that the international community will embrace them. Is Iran really going in that direction, where they feel they have to deify themselves in order to withstand the scrutiny of their people and the international community? The disturbing question to me is what if this is based on mere delusion? Similarly lofty claims, as I recall, have been made by Kim Jong-Il of North Korea--and are evidence of instability and desperation on the government' part. I find it incredibly hard to believe, and there is no evidence to support it. The lesson here is that we should be listening closely.

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It would be a pretty suicidal move ' atleast politically ' to come out declaring a CURE for aids, then give anyhting but.
Especially in a time when IRAN need to allie them selves with as many countries as possible... And creating such a big rucko's by lying so blatantly will not do that....
Especially when your talking about a CURE for aids.

The truth is, no Iranian scientist is on record as calling it an "AIDS cure."

Ynetnews (which actually links to itself when supposedly linking to its source) got the "AIDS cure" quote from the header of an article by the Fars News Agency, a semi-official news organization within Iran.

The new drug is called IMOD. They developed another one in 2006 called SCP. As far as I know, both act as immune-system boosters to fight against the immuno-deficiency characteristics of HIV/AIDS - it is not a cure, and no Iranian official is on record as calling it a cure.

Here is a different Fars News link from September '06:

The health official stressed, "SCP may not destroy HIV or clean the virus off the infected bodies, as no other drug has ever succeeded in doing so, because HIV is a hard resisting virus and it chooses to stay in those parts of the body where medicine can hardly reach."

Officials have declared that the detailed information about the drug would soon be released during a magnificent ceremony to be thrown at the honor of the team of researchers who have brought more honor and glory for Iran and more hope for the world community.

The ceremony will be attended by the President, the Health Minister and a number of other ministers and officials as well as foreign ambassadors and diplomats residing in Iran.

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Iran should be publicly repudiating the article if it is inaccurate. It doesn't help them to have information like this floating around. What blows my mind more is that this organization, as described, is semi-official. They should be more responsible.

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It certainly doesn't help them, but I imagine that was the whole point of Ynet's misquote in the first place.
As for why Fars used "cure", I have no idea. The content is translated from Farsi, so the translator may just have been unfamiliar with what "cure" strictly means.

By this point, though, the die is pretty much cast. Even if Iran corrected the article, I doubt the correction would be picked up over the original story by our media outlets.
Regardless, I imagine Fars will hear some severe words from the government. They've essentially given anti-Iranian media the only talking-point they need against the event on February 11th.

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Funny.

You're all sounding like, "How could our buddies - the iranians - do something this dumb, after all we've done to support them?

Maybe it's simply because the iranians are that dumb.

Originally posted by centurion1211
Funny.

You're all sounding like, "How could our buddies - the iranians - do something this dumb, after all we've done to support them?

Maybe it's simply because the iranians are that dumb.

I am not in support of the Iranian regime in any way. It is a theocracy--which makes it bad enough-- it threatens its neighbors and is a destabilizing element in the international community.

But I still think that such a claim made by their media is uncharacteristically un-savvy.

OK. But when you make a statement like this:

Iran should be publicly repudiating the article if it is inaccurate.

It sounds like you expect iran to be operating on the same level of diplomacy, etc. as the rest of the civilized world - which has to be a joke, right?

Originally posted by centurion1211
OK. But when you make a statement like this:

Iran should be publicly repudiating the article if it is inaccurate.

It sounds like you expect iran to be operating on the same level of diplomacy, etc. as the rest of the civilized world - which has to be a joke, right?

I expect them to act to the standards of the international community, indeed I do, and I think that is an important expectation for all of us to have.

However, that is different from what I believe they will do. They have a proven pattern of dissembling and firebrand rhetoric. That I don't see changing, and I think we're in agreement in that respect.

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irna.ir: Iran discovers formula to cure AIDS, health minister...

Minister of Health and Medical Education Kamran Baqeri Lankarani on Tuesday said in a long-awaited statement to announce the breakthrough made by Iranian scientists and researchers that the use of the formula for a three-month period, will have clinical effects on patients for a two-year term, comparing it with other medicines which are only effective while being administered.

He said that Iranian doctors have experimented the formula on patients and its two-year effect on the body is guaranteed.

"For the time being, we cannot say that effects of the newly-discovered medicine will remain in the body along the life time," the health minister said.

as with everything, take with a grain of salt and beware of baseness

from the same source: Health minister to unveil breakthrough in AIDS cure...




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The impression that I get from that article is that the "cure" is actually another treatment, one that simply remains in the body for a while after you stop taking the medication. The implication is that the drug does the same thing as other commercially available HIV drugs, but has an effect lasting longer than the period in which the drug is taken.

Yet another reason why journalists suck.

AIDS drugs suck

AIDS was created to reduce the population

big pharma BOARDS are IN ON IT

the rest of the drs . prescribing the med's beleive it is the right thing despite the POOR POOR results of the aids "medications

to complicate the matter the info regarding HIV=AIDS is not accurate and this helps people expect to get sick and die and take hiv as a death sentance literally believing that they will not get better, and then they do not.

some people have the not in my country mentality when it comes to being not told the whole truth about aids, there is no reason BIG PHARMA BOARDS (not the lower level employees) would WANT or ALLOW a cure for AIDS or CANCER for that matter, they want people to be able to stay alive a bit longer so they can pay for there "MEDS" longer.

and the sick people who make these decisions rationalize it to themselves by saying hey

1. these people can seek alternate treatments if they don't like our recomendations

2. take care of yourself and your family makimize your own profits for your childrens future, and what do you care about these other people anywyay they are most likely practicing "different sexual life style's " and besides no one's making them take these drugs


do not look for media sources from media bankrolled by the rothschilds, rockefeller's and other notable elite family lines, they want to reduce the earth's population and they believe the ENDS justify the MEANS

btw proof can only be found when you are open to seeing it

until then you'll probably (when u decide to occasionally think about this matter) be left with a sense of things "just not making sense"

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Imagine this: they have the *only* "cure" for AIDS/HIV, and the US/Israelis bomb them into oblivion because of the nuclear issues.

If the "cure" is true (which I doubt; I wish it were true, but I just doubt it...), the US will become the "killer" of the world - removing the cure from a world suffering so badly from this illness.

Know what I think? The "Cure" is a political ploy/lie designed to buy the Iranian gov't more time to develop nuclear weapons...and there is no cure. There may be another treatment, but it's not a cure. But by the time that's discovered, nuclear weapons will have been developed and installed and ready.

And if the Iranians refuse to share the "cure", which I think they will do, then you'll know the above is true.

How I wish that there were a cure for AIDS. I don't think, however, that this is it.

Regards-
Aimless

Originally posted by cpdaman
btw proof can only be found when you are open to seeing it

until then you'll probably (when u decide to occasionally think about this matter) be left with a sense of things "just not making sense"

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Can you provide us with some proof?

When the report on aids came out of a Cure found in Iran it was nothing more than propaganda and mis used of the report given.

The claim of finding a cure was wrong and misleading, what the report said and was discussed here in ATS . . . was about medicines that could help with the Aids not that they found a cure.

So I see that media is still miss using the first report statement from Iran.

Nuclear technology and the cure for AIDs in the same article unless....

.....OH DEAR SWEAT NONEXISTANT GOD!

There cure for AIDS coulf be to nuke everyone with it

Gee, who would have thought that a country with supposed higher moral standards than the west would need to find a cure for AIDS.

Didnt we already have someone post a Iranain cure for Aids and it was already debunked?

Originally posted by Aimless Searcher
Imagine this: they have the *only* "cure" for AIDS/HIV, and the US/Israelis bomb them into oblivion because of the nuclear issues.

If the "cure" is true (which I doubt; I wish it were true, but I just doubt it...), the US will become the "killer" of the world - removing the cure from a world suffering so badly from this illness.

Know what I think? The "Cure" is a political ploy/lie designed to buy the Iranian gov't more time to develop nuclear weapons...and there is no cure. There may be another treatment, but it's not a cure. But by the time that's discovered, nuclear weapons will have been developed and installed and ready.

It is... its to buy them some time and make the US look bad for attacking a country that could possibly give so much to mankind...yeah, right.