Universal National Service Act of 2007

Well for all of you who voted in the Democratic controlled Congress look what you voted for.

Universal National Service Act of 2007 (Introduced in House)

HR 393 IH

110th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 393
To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to make permanent the favorable treatment afforded combat pay under the earned income tax credit, and for other purposes.
thomas.loc.gov...:H.R.393:

I like this part the best, no Canada trips for CO's.

SEC. 109. CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTION.

(a) Claims as Conscientious Objector- Nothing in this title shall be construed to require a person to be subject to combatant training and service in the uniformed services, if that person, by reason of sincerely held moral, ethical, or religious beliefs, is conscientiously opposed to participation in war in any form.

(b) Alternative Noncombatant or Civilian Service- A person who claims exemption from combatant training and service under subsection (a) and whose claim is sustained by the local board shall--

(1) be assigned to noncombatant service (as defined by the President), if the person is inducted into the uniformed services; or

(2) be ordered by the local board, if found to be conscientiously opposed to participation in such noncombatant service, to perform national civilian service for the period specified in section 104(a) and subject to such regulations as the President may prescribe.
thomas.loc.gov...:H.R.393:

Thanks Charlie Rangel

Originally posted by SIRR1
Well for all of you who voted in the Democratic controlled Congress look what you voted for.

Universal National Service Act of 2007 (Introduced in House)

HR 393 IH

110th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 393
To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to make permanent the favorable treatment afforded combat pay under the earned income tax credit, and for other purposes.
thomas.loc.gov...:H.R.393:

I like this part the best, no Canada trips for CO's.

SEC. 109. CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTION.

(a) Claims as Conscientious Objector- Nothing in this title shall be construed to require a person to be subject to combatant training and service in the uniformed services, if that person, by reason of sincerely held moral, ethical, or religious beliefs, is conscientiously opposed to participation in war in any form.

(b) Alternative Noncombatant or Civilian Service- A person who claims exemption from combatant training and service under subsection (a) and whose claim is sustained by the local board shall--

(1) be assigned to noncombatant service (as defined by the President), if the person is inducted into the uniformed services; or

(2) be ordered by the local board, if found to be conscientiously opposed to participation in such noncombatant service, to perform national civilian service for the period specified in section 104(a) and subject to such regulations as the President may prescribe.
thomas.loc.gov...:H.R.393:

Thanks Charlie Rangel

mods, can you fix my links to the library of congress.
thanks sirr1

thank you for bringing this to the forum.

does any one know where in the legal process this Act is?
How close to being passed? is this round one?

Don't worry it will not be pass for now.

Because Democrats are working on the presidential seat in 2008 and this will be a touchy subject right now with the mess in Iraq and possible attacks on Iran.

So at least for the next 3 years it will be stopped.

Rangel has introduced draft legislature before like this several times, I believe. Sounds like it's still just being considered.

I think that this would be benificial to the country as a whole. Not right away but after a few years when the 'first' ones have finished they should be capable a living a better life and being able to handle responsibilities.

Think of all the school drop-outs, maybe a program like this will teach them that they are not worthless and are capable of much more. I don't believe a program like this would be used, as some here will say, a brain washing techique so the US can take over the world!

I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't be keen on leaving my kids, wife, job, car, LIFE...and quite probably dying so someone can play war games and line their pockets. Can't fight it, can't dodge it...awesome.

ferretman2

Actually I agree with you on that, it will help keep some young people out of trouble and into a more discipline regime that will change them into more responsible adults.

Sorry for quoting the wrong part of your post.

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The apocalypse is neigh upon us...

Just like it was in...

2005

and

2006



No need for disinformation and obfuscation... The facts seem to be able to do the job just fine...

this topic keeps popping up, then fades into the background. pops up, fades away, pops up, fades away, repeat....

is this an attempt to "warm us up" to the issue, to erode opposition by several false starts?

I have not seen this one in the news either. I know they've talked about the draft, but this sounds more serious than the draft.

Best thing that could happen to the US of A right now - THE DRAFT !!

That would get everyone away from their keyboards and into the streets to finally, really, make something happen.

I will always be opposed to a draft or anything like this bill

Im opposed to any draft or bill as well.
Even if a drat was to happen,i will not be participating,period.
If our coutry ever gets attacked by a foreign army,then i'd join voluntarily.Anything short of that,count me out.

I really hope this does not pass, and I do not think it will... too much public opposition. And like another poster said, there is a party fight for the presidency about to occur... they are gonna want to stay on our good sides... for now.

But here's my question...

Would this legislation have an effect on those in school? I know the draft cannot call you if you are a student... would this new thing-a-ma-draft also require college students to go active?

As a student myslef, I am curious.

Good post!

I dare 'em to make it mandatory. If I get forced away from my family, my job, and everything that I care about, you can rest assured I'm gonna make a nightmare come true for anyone close to me the first time they put a firearm in my hand. And that's something any of you that could possibly be sucked into something like this could do. When they teach you to use that firearm, turn it on them and use it. If enough people were to do that, they would quit the whole mandatory bullcrap.

Yes...that's exactly what democrats voted for.

Who really cares what the party is called...it still smells. If you just stand behind a party saying things like.."well this is what you get for voting democrat"...you just making more hatred between the two.

Anyways...I remember the republicans passed quite a few acts that nobody was happy about...remember those?

Just a different face to blame. imo

ask yourself this

IF THERE WAS A TERRORIST ATTACKS and i use that word terrorist very loosly IN this country would that law be passed, possibly without congress even reading it.

Ugghs new day same subject. This is not what this is about. Please Read the actual act and dont just say ohh I got something on Democrats. This is the problem with this country, He said She said garbage. And this is on both Right and Left Sides

What this was about was: No One could get out of the Draft including our Senators, Congress, and Presidents Kids. It was made to have the people who make these decisions think twice before going to war because their children will be going as well, might make it so only a Just war is the only war we fight.

There are several countries who have Mandatory service. This isn't new nor evil.

Don't use this for your right wing agenda crap and actually read the whole act and do some research into why Rangel is doing it.

31 Countries have mandatory service (as soon that you are of age )That means as soon as you graduate (from a highschool type) you are required
to fill your obligation with the military ,no buts .
1) Austria
2) Belarus
3) Bermuda
4) Brazil
5) Bulgaria
6) Chile
7) China
8) Croatia
9) Cyprus
10) Denmark
11) Egypt
12) Eritrea
13) Finland
14) Germany
15) Greece
16) Iran
17) Israel
18) Korea, South
19) Lebanon
20) Malaysia
21) Mexico (of one year, though selection is made by a lottery system using the following color scheme: whoever draws a black ball must serve as a "disponibility reservist. lol )
22) Norway
23) Poland
24) Russia
25) Serbia
26) Singapore
27) Sweden
28) Switzerland
29) Taiwan (ROC)
30) Turkey
31) Ukraine

You could always go live in one of those countries and get it over with .lol .
On the bright side there are 26 Countries that never had, or abolished, mandatory military service! I don't feel like listing them .lol But the USA is on that list ! .

I myself spent 8yrs. ACTIVE duty (no reserve) in the USAF .And I don't think there will ever be a draft again in the US .

[edit on 31-1-2007 by vertol]