4 Americans Shot in the Back of Head After Copter Crashes

Originally posted by Dock6


Mossad agents fly around the globe on continual basis, committing abhorent crimes, inflicting bomb-attacks on innocent civilians, creating mass-graves which are attributed to this or that faction, etc., after which it is claimed Al Quaeda or 'terrorists' are responsible. The whore-media works to whip people into a frenzy of fear and outrage. And it seems many are eager to be outraged.

Let me get this straight- it is propaganda to believe that Al Qaeda commits terrorist attacks, that tyrants commit genocide and put bodies in mass graves, and that Sunnis and Shia commit violence against each other, but it's not propaganda to believe that the Mossad has the ability to operate freely to the extent and on the scale that you are suggesting? How many Mossad agents do you think there are? They are responsible for all the world's ills, and everyone else has been unfairly characterized? You don't live in a cave in Pakistan by any chance do you? That's about the most twisted perception of reality that I've heard expressed.

Originally posted by 137

Originally posted by BlueRaja
So you're going on record saying that Sunnis don't kill Shia or vice versa?
Can you please explain at how you arrived at this conclusion?

A refugee from Iraq (who fled from Saddam's regime) and went back for a family visit told me this. Ofcourse it could be that some killings are done by gangs fighting each other, but none of the groups have claimed a single bombing, kidnapping or kill on their fellow Iraqi citizens.

Well, this type of sectarian violence is going here in our jails, so why is it so outlandish to think that it isn't happening there?

Originally posted by 137

Originally posted by BlueRaja
So you're going on record saying that Sunnis don't kill Shia or vice versa?
Can you please explain at how you arrived at this conclusion?

A refugee from Iraq (who fled from Saddam's regime) and went back for a family visit told me this. Ofcourse it could be that some killings are done by gangs fighting each other, but none of the groups have claimed a single bombing, kidnapping or kill on their fellow Iraqi citizens.

I and many of my coworkers have been to Iraq too. I've met many people that couldn't even tell their families what they did for a living or they'd be murdered, or there entire family had been murdered by various factions. As many say, the news media gets the stories wrong, but in most cases err the wrong way(i.e. report things as worse than they really are, not the other way around).

Originally posted by intrepid
Well, this type of sectarian violence is going here in our jails, so why is it so outlandish to think that it isn't happening there?

Just think of this, the 60000 Iraqi's killed by military intervention the past couple of years also have brothers, uncles, fathers, mothers and go so on. These people are angry and want the people who killed and are still killing their friends and reletives out of there.

First off I want to say the posts at the beginning by Dock6 and Johnlear are bang on.

The Iraqi people suffer this kind of treatment everyday, fact is the media aint gonna educate you on it because that wouldnt be "Patriotic".

Anyone seen Fahrenheit 9/11? remember the part where they film in Iraq, interviewing some marines and Iraqi civilians, do you remember the dead child being put in the back of a truck, remember the anger and sadness in the mans eyes as he shouted, the marines talked about how they "napalmed" a suburban area (I was genuinely surprised as I didnt know weapons like this were still being used). The injuries that napalm causes is without a doubt one of the most inhumane weapons you could possibly use in a war, the storm kicked up about how Saddam used chemicals against his victims was as I remember one which caused universal disgust, so what exempts the US military forces from this, in certain cases you could say it was necessary force...but the fact that this was targeted at a suburban area, an area which is likely to be containing the homes of many innocents families, would it be unreasonable to suggest that the Generals in charge might have thought,

"hmm? wait wont napalming that are that do alot more harm than good", would it be unreasonable to suggest that he might have said, "Men tell you what, due to the fact that this area is densely populated with civilians a sheet of napalm approach wont be a good idea so we'll go in on the ground instead."

heres a link to the full fahrenheit 9/11 video if anyones interested,

Fahrenheit 9/11

Originally posted by Deus_Brandon
This is the funniest thing I keep hearing .. Is that AMerica is goign to NUKE this person or Nuke this place ... FUNNY STUFF ... Nuclear Weapons will never be used again .. and if they are ... God help the WHOLE WORLD because it will be catastrophic ...

Boy are you ever in for a surprise! Let me explain how, in my opinion it is going to work. Approximately 550 tactical nukes were buried within the past 18 months in strategic locations all over Iran by U.S. special teams. Some of the nukes are small some are larger.

Sometime during the next few months, some outrageous act against the U.S. will be perpetrated, (probably by ourselves) involving much loss of life. Something really believable. Maybe an attack on a Naval war vessel. Maybe even a carrier. This outrageous act will be blamed on Iran and Bush will call for retaliation.

Both the U.S. and Israeli fighter bombers will attack Iran with the U.S. dropping conventional bombs and Israel pretending to drop nukes. Pretending I say because the nukes that have already been planted will be detonated by satellite during the air attack. This will be done for 2 reasons. First, prepositioned nukes will mitigate collateral damage (if such a thing is possible in a nuclear attack) and second, delivery by air is not very accurate.

Iran will retaliate by first being sure that the Straits of Hormuz will be closed for the next several years which will give oil suppliers an excuse to raise gas prices to $10 a gallon and more.

Many US soldiers will die and several Naval vessels will be hit as we make the world safer for democracy.

The U.S. will condemn Israel for using nukes and Israel will say "Never again! Again."

The U.S. will then give Israel several hundred billion dollars for their terrible loss by 2 or 3 lucky Iranian missile hits.

Its all about money.

Just an opinion.

We're in war, what do people expect? People are going to die...

Originally posted by johnlear
Sometime during the next few months, some outrageous act against the U.S. will be perpetrated, (probably by ourselves) involving much loss of life. Something really believable. Maybe an attack on a Naval war vessel. Maybe even a carrier. This outrageous act will be blamed on Iran and Bush will call for retaliation.

Well, Mr. Lear, it couldn't be anything short of a nuclear attack on U.S. soil that would cause your scenario. We didn't do anything near nuclear retaliation on the alleged perpetrators of 9/11.

Peace

www.liveleak.com...

I seen the video, and based on the wreckage, they are already dead.

Warning video is graphic, showing dead bodies.

Originally posted by marcopolo
First off I want to say the posts at the beginning by Dock6 and Johnlear are bang on.

The Iraqi people suffer this kind of treatment everyday, fact is the media aint gonna educate you on it because that wouldnt be "Patriotic".

Anyone seen Fahrenheit 9/11? remember the part where they film in Iraq, interviewing some marines and Iraqi civilians, do you remember the dead child being put in the back of a truck, remember the anger and sadness in the mans eyes as he shouted, the marines talked about how they "napalmed" a suburban area (I was genuinely surprised as I didnt know weapons like this were still being used). The injuries that napalm causes is without a doubt one of the most inhumane weapons you could possibly use in a war, the storm kicked up about how Saddam used chemicals against his victims was as I remember one which caused universal disgust, so what exempts the US military forces from this, in certain cases you could say it was necessary force...but the fact that this was targeted at a suburban area, an area which is likely to be containing the homes of many innocents families, would it be unreasonable to suggest that the Generals in charge might have thought,

"hmm? wait wont napalming that are that do alot more harm than good", would it be unreasonable to suggest that he might have said, "Men tell you what, due to the fact that this area is densely populated with civilians a sheet of napalm approach wont be a good idea so we'll go in on the ground instead."

heres a link to the full fahrenheit 9/11 video if anyones interested,

Fahrenheit 9/11

Have you ever seen Fahrenhype 9/11? have you ever seen the interviews with folks who Michael Moore mischaracterized/misquoted, or used things out of context and are pissed off at him? Fahrenheit 9/11 is nothing but BS.

Originally posted by Dr Love
Well, Mr. Lear, it couldn't be anything short of a nuclear attack on U.S. soil that would cause your scenario.

Yes, that is an option our government has considered.

We didn't do anything near nuclear retaliation on the alleged perpetrators of 9/11.

It would have been a tough decision to bomb ourselves after we had just bombed ourselves. I mean, who is going to believe that?

There gets to be a point in all this double dealing where the perpetrators actually end up asking themselves, "Are we nuts?"

This is a must see for everyone!

Google Video Link

Iraq: The hidden story

org. posted by johnlear
Boy are you ever in for a surprise! Let me explain how, in my opinion it is going to work. Approximately 550 tactical nukes were buried within the past 18 months in strategic locations all over Iran by U.S. special teams. Some of the nukes are small some are larger.

How do you bury 550 nukes in "enemy" territory with noone noticing?

Dont get me wrong John, I also believe in yet another illegal war created for big bussines (and other ends). However I have a hard time imagining sneaking the 550 nuclear weapons into Iran.

[edit on 24-1-2007 by SdiRailgun]

Originally posted by spacedoubt
Terrorists and Islamofacists love pacifism.
Makes things easier for them.

My best to the families of those who were shot in the back of the head, instead of being taken prisoner, like Americans would do a captured insurgent, under similar circumstances.
Not unexpected though, when fighting a culture of death.

They risked their lives, and they knew the consquences. There will be more to fill their shoes.

Is it only me? Can I possibly be the only one who believes that you should not under any circumstances take prisoners? It makes more sense to leave your enemies dead on the battlefield. Close down Gitmo and just kill em all where they stand on the field of battle.

If they were enemies taken on a field of battle, I could at least understand, however what's been released on the people in Gitmo so far shows that there have been a lot more Afghan dirt farmers who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time than terrorists.

Originally posted by xmotex
If they were enemies taken on a field of battle, I could at least understand, however what's been released on the people in Gitmo so far shows that there have been a lot more Afghan dirt farmers who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time than terrorists.

There are even western journalists stuck in gitmo, and thats just the tip of an iceberg.

Originally posted by 137
[There are even western journalists stuck in gitmo, and thats just the tip of an iceberg.

Really? Can you give the names and the organization they work for?

Originally posted by Dock6

More barbaric acts, when will it stop..

Do you think it might stop if the US went home ?

Its funny, that thought probably never even crossed these minds.
I always wondered, stupid naive maybe, but worth asking...
maybe all this # in the middle east would stop if you guys vacated the area?


You invade them, you blow them up, you rape their wives and kids, and you expect them to bow down and kiss your feet? Give you flowers, as someone here put it? BLAAHH.

America = Ignorant and full of themselves. The world does not require to bow down to "American interests". Its total baloney, its not "Americas" interest, is it in your interest to go and fight wars? THINK ABOUT IT!

They are not the American peoples interest, 2\3 say out, out of Iraq now, no negotiating. Bush and his croonies? "Youre right! No negotiating! Were gonna send in MORE troops!"

The president of the foreign owned corporation called the United States of America...could give a toss less about the American people or your interests. These people serve Vatican, these people serve Israeli/zionist murderers...and in the words of Texas Congressman Ron Paul "They believe in one world government".

Wake up and smell the # coming from Washington DC and New York, funded and run by London and Rome, using Jerusalem and Brussels to control your money, and to control you. Smell the #! It reeks a thousand miles away!

Originally posted by deltaboy
Really? Can you give the names and the organization they work for?

I think at some point they talked about it in the docu i posted above (if i remember right), they were interviewing a journalist from a british news agency. He said they were busy trying to find out what was going on and for what reason they were captured. No names were revealed. If i come across the source i will post it
I did find these: link 1, link 2 and link 3
I dont know if they relate with the event i described tough

Originally posted by johnlear
Boy are you ever in for a surprise! Let me explain how, in my opinion it is going to work. Approximately 550 tactical nukes were buried within the past 18 months in strategic locations all over Iran by U.S. special teams. Some of the nukes are small some are larger.

Just like the several hundred WMD's found by several intelligence agencies in iraq huh?

I have long since taken details about WMD's with a pinch of salt, no matter who or where they come from.

After all, we all have an agenda...