Billary Clinton for President

Originally posted by Desert Dawg
I think Obama's time is 4-12 years into the future as far as doing the Prez bit goes.


So . . . if Hillary got the presidential nomination from the Dem's, would it be possible that Bill could be the Vice-Prez nominee?

I don't think there are any laws or constitutional rules against it.

And . . . if that happened, and then something happened to Hillary - I ain't taking any bets here - then Bill would be in line to be the Prez again.
Lots of ways to get where you want to go.


My favorite Repub ticket would be Colin Powell as Prez and Condy Rice as Vice-Prez . . . or vice-versa.
Either way works for me.
Hillary would have a tough time beating them.

A smart, well accepted black man along with a smart, well accepted and well liked black woman strikes me as a can't miss combination in a lot of areas of American society.

Obama I believe would not stand for being V.P under Hillary and I believe as you state will be a contender in the future.

As far as Bill becoming V.P. it is possible but I think his ego would stand in his way and he would have more power and less scrutiny behind the scenes.

Condy and Colin again neither would take a back seat to each other but anything is possible. Condy Rice is more to the right and Colin more of a moderate as far as I am concerened. Both would call for a strong military.

I do believe if Billary is elected as the next President they will pull a Ronnie. When Pres. Carter was exiting Pres. Reagan negotiated the release of the American hostages in Iranian custody. Billary behind the scenes will be for a swift removal of American troops from Iraque soil. Billaries slogan Bring Our Troops Home. One little problem a more intense civil war could errupt and Iran and Syria like vultures will be waiting in the wind to take over the remains.

An even bigger problem could ensue with Israel feeling more threatened in the region then they are now, could strike out against their enemies and make no mistake these are their enemies. Rik Riley

Originally posted by Desert Dawg
I think Obama's time is 4-12 years into the future as far as doing the Prez bit goes.


So . . . if Hillary got the presidential nomination from the Dem's, would it be possible that Bill could be the Vice-Prez nominee?

I don't think there are any laws or constitutional rules against it.

And . . . if that happened, and then something happened to Hillary - I ain't taking any bets here - then Bill would be in line to be the Prez again.
Lots of ways to get where you want to go.


My favorite Repub ticket would be Colin Powell as Prez and Condy Rice as Vice-Prez . . . or vice-versa.
Either way works for me.
Hillary would have a tough time beating them.

A smart, well accepted black man along with a smart, well accepted and well liked black woman strikes me as a can't miss combination in a lot of areas of American society.

The thing about Obama is that he has what it takes to be elected now. It does not mean he will be the Democratic nominee or even win, but he is a new, fresh face to the national stage and excites a lot of people. If he did not run now, he will lose a lot of credibility for any future candidacy. The Democratic nominee will be looking closely at Obama for Veep if Obama does not get the nomination.

As for Bill Clinton as VP. The Republicans will make it a Constitutional issue and it will likely go to the Supreme Court, which will likely turn it down. As for the second part of the Clinton/Clinton ticket... Bill will be able to succeed to the Presidency, but will be bared from running again.

Now about Colin Powell and Condi Rice. Rice has no chance at winning on the national stage and if any Republican chooses her has their VP, it will be political suicide. She has the baggage of the Bush Administration. Her only qualifications for President is related to the Bush Administation. As for Powell. I could see him as someone's VP. He has the same problem as Rice, but since he left the Bush Administration he has criticized the President on many things so he has gained some political points with that. Besides that, he has a plethora of foreign policy and military credentials. I will not be surprised if McCain, Giuliani or Romney named Powell has their VP. It will be more risky for McCain and Giuliani, but I won't be surprised, especially if Obama is on the Democratic ticket.

As for Hillary Clinton in the White House... People act like it's going to be the end of the world and give no reasons for why it will be the end of the world. If she is elected, I don't see how it will be any different from Bush 43, Clinton, Bush 41 or Reagan.

With Giuliani jumping into the Republican race and being from New York City how does this affect the Billary campaign strategy? Who will take the State of New York if Billary and Giuliani run against each other for the Presidential race? Who would actually win the race if the election was held tomorrow?

Why is the Billary camp afraid to debate Obama? Could it be that Hollywood is leaning toward Obama or that the minority vote is in his favor? Is it possible by not debating the issues the Billary camp won't be pinned down and lose votes on specific issues? Sooner or later the debate will have to take place. The Press is not pushing the issue now but the tide will turn when a debate is forced to take place. Obama is not going to go away and I believe he is in the race to the end. Rik Riley

Ol' Billary... The stupidity of Americans is so rank, I wouldn't be surprised to see her win the election. Ah, oh well, it's all going to hell in a nut shell anyway. Why try to postpone it?

If the Billary team is elected it is a given your taxes will go up and we can take that to the bank or I should say take it out of the bank. Even if they are elected and I do mean they, our country is still the best thing going thats why so many illegals try to cross the border everyday. Look how many foreign students come to this country to be educated. The election is less then 2 years away and the Billary team thrives on power. Billary will do almost anything to stop Obama from raining on their parade. Rik Riley

[edit on 8-2-2007 by rikriley]

All I know is that if she doe's win it would mean that either the Bush's or Clinton's would of either been President or Vice-President of the USA for over 30 year's.Talk about a Monarchy.

Good point I heard that on the radio this morning. Behind the scenes Bush Senior is pretty cozy with Bill Clinton. Yes they together have helped humanity in raising money for good causes. We as citizens do not know most of the time what kind of deals are made in the back rooms in or outside Capitol Hill. Do we as citizens of the United States Of America trust politicians? Not Rik Riley

Originally posted by rikriley
With Giuliani jumping into the Republican race and being from New York City how does this affect the Billary campaign strategy? Who will take the State of New York if Billary and Giuliani run against each other for the Presidential race? Who would actually win the race if the election was held tomorrow?

This may surprise you, but New York will go to Clinton. The margin of victory may be smaller than those before her, but she will win the state. States like Pennsylvania and New Jersey though will go into play and will be forced into the tossup column. States like Ohio and Florida, which Clinton can win will also be put into the tossup column.

But we are getting ahead of ourselves. Personally, I think Giuliani has no chance at the nomination. The conservative base will not allow it. And if by some out of the blue chance he does get the nomination, chances are a third party candidate will arise splitting the Republican vote. As for Clinton, she has what it takes to win, but will she suffer from the front-runner's curse? Can Edwards overcome her? Is Richardson the dark horse?

Will moving up the primaries to Feb. 5th in Calif., New York and Fl. be a strategy used to gain more momentum, money or be for delegate issues for the Democrates? Will Obama officially making his announcement to run for President change the Billary strategy? We now have Edwards, Obama and the Billary camp going for the Democratic party nomination. Republicans we have McCain and Giuliani as front runners. Will there be a surprise anouncement on who else is running for the Presidency? Rik Riley

Correct me if I am wrong, I am not a constitutional law student, however, doesn't it state that only Males can be the presidient? If hillary IS elected wont the constitution have to be changed, I remember reading about this not long ago but am to lazy to look it up, does anyone else know? it was stated that only the office of the president was Gender specific. (BTW if she IS elected, the wife and I are leaving the country)
found the link to the constitution, read it carefully
www.usconstitution.net...

[edit on 10-2-2007 by thedigirati]

Originally posted by thedigirati
Correct me if I am wrong, I am not a constitutional law student, however, doesn't it state that only Males can be the presidient? If hillary IS elected wont the constitution have to be changed, I remember reading about this not long ago but am to lazy to look it up, does anyone else know? it was stated that only the office of the president was Gender specific. (BTW if she IS elected, the wife and I are leaving the country)
found the link to the constitution, read it carefully
www.usconstitution.net...

[edit on 10-2-2007 by thedigirati]

This is news to me, a woman has the right to be voted in as President of The United States Of America as long as she is a citisen born as a U.S citisen and at least 36 years old. This is right up there with women have the right to vote.

Will Billary's position on the war with Iraq help or hinder their chances of being elected? Will Obama's position on the war help or hinder his chances of being appointed as the democratic nominee? Will Edwards stand a chance as the nominee or will he be the dark horse candidate? Rik Riley

Will Billary if elected subsidize or bail out the auto industry? Will they let what we used to call the back bone of our nation, the auto industry, go belly up? Rik Riley

Between the Billary team who is the most liked Bill or Hillary? It may come to no surprise to you but Bill wins this one. The latest poll shows 6 out of 10 have a favorable rating for Bill. If the Billary team wins the election is your vote actually going for Bill or Hillary? Rik Riley

Lets say the Billary Team is voted in as President and an enemy of the United States of America attacked our homeland. What would be Billaries response to the situation? Could it be do not do that again and pull back or would Billary retaliate with a vengeance? Rik Riley

first off, calling the good ole USA "the Homeland" is a negative connotation. the USA USED to be for everyone, the tired, the poor, the weak, BLAH BLAH, now its "OURS" and not "YOURS". us and them... the ultimate division line for the warmongers. Homeland Security is a very slick, deceptive name, and i am sure its a mental time bomb set in place by Rove, master propagandist.

all this Clinton bashing is laughable to me. i just dont get the hatred for the Clintons, especially contrasted against the Bush Family. i mean a Bush has had their name tossed around some of the ugliest moments in all of history, the Nazis, JFK, and 911... remarkable. whats Clinton done? got some pussy? good, he is all American... lets not attack a mans personal life (unless you fell for the smear campaign). he balanced the budget at least, and was warning about terrorism while Republicans were crying about his sex life.

do you think Clinton would have sat reading childrens books while the nation was under attack? what do you think Clinton would have done post Katrina? or more importantly, would Clinton had attempted to avoid both these disasters?

Bush has a terrible record, we lost part of New York, we lost New Orleans, we lost a Space Shuttle, we lost 2 wars, we lost the worlds respect and belief in our ideals. put it into perspective, man.

Originally posted by Starbuck
first off, calling the good ole USA "the Homeland" is a negative connotation. the USA USED to be for everyone, the tired, the poor, the weak, BLAH BLAH, now its "OURS" and not "YOURS". us and them... the ultimate division line for the warmongers. Homeland Security is a very slick, deceptive name, and i am sure its a mental time bomb set in place by Rove, master propagandist.

all this Clinton bashing is laughable to me. i just dont get the hatred for the Clintons, especially contrasted against the Bush Family. i mean a Bush has had their name tossed around some of the ugliest moments in all of history, the Nazis, JFK, and 911... remarkable. whats Clinton done? got some pussy? good, he is all American... lets not attack a mans personal life (unless you fell for the smear campaign). he balanced the budget at least, and was warning about terrorism while Republicans were crying about his sex life.

do you think Clinton would have sat reading childrens books while the nation was under attack? what do you think Clinton would have done post Katrina? or more importantly, would Clinton had attempted to avoid both these disasters?

Bush has a terrible record, we lost part of New York, we lost New Orleans, we lost a Space Shuttle, we lost 2 wars, we lost the worlds respect and belief in our ideals. put it into perspective, man.

What do you want a pitty party welcome to the real world. Human beings have been this way for thousands of years whats new. Disasters happen, yes I agree Bill Clinton would have did a better job handling the Katrina disaster and recovery. Do not forget Mississippi. Bill would of got up immediately reading childrens books or not and got on top of things. New York City who knows who was behind the attack, we will never know the real truth only what we have been told.

My nephew was there watching the towers crumble. While my nephew is watching the towers collapse in front of his eyes my brother is talking to him on the cell as he is watching the Pentagon smolder nearby. The whole nation was in shock we all lost that day and will effect this countries future and freedoms forever.

Homeland, I have always called this country my homeland as well as my American Indian Ancestry. Do not judge or assume anything until you have walked in someone elses foot steps. I do not remember mentioning homeland security, you did.

Who is in charge of your life not me you are if you want to change the World then do it, we are but 2 voices talking in cyberspace.

War is a terrible thing and a necessary evil when under attack. The U.S. probably would be speaking Japanese or German if the U.S had not entered the big one. If we as a Nation lost the war we would not be called The United States of America.

Iraq, things behind the scenes we as a Nation were not told about. Oil secondary to the primary reasoning for being there. Positioning to me is the real reason. This is an entire thread in itself. I knew we would be bogged down in house to house combat. Bad War.

Space shuttle. I had a meeting with one of individuals that worked on the Space shuttle. His job was to work on the wings on the shuttle. I asked him why he thought there was so much trouble with the Space Shuttle program at Nasa. His answer lack of funding. Rik Riley

Al Gore for president!!

What other president has a record like his...Nobel Prize, won an Oscar, has a great reputation since his last campaign. I mean the only reason he lost last time was because people thought he was BORING! Hell, I'll take a boring president that does a good job over a corrupt *cough* Bush*cough* president who is fun to be around any day.

Honestly though, I think he would make a great candidate. I'd much rather vote for him than Clinton or Obama

Originally posted by steve22
Al Gore for president!!

What other president has a record like his...Nobel Prize, won an Oscar, has a great reputation since his last campaign. I mean the only reason he lost last time was because people thought he was BORING! Hell, I'll take a boring president that does a good job over a corrupt *cough* Bush*cough* president who is fun to be around any day.

Honestly though, I think he would make a great candidate. I'd much rather vote for him than Clinton or Obama

I did not know Al Gore won a Nobel prize I knew he was being nominated for one but has not won as of yet. I knew he probably would be nominated for an Oscar but the Academy Awards have not taken place as of yet either.

Al Gore won the popular vote across the Nation but lost the election because of the electorial college vote in Florida not because he was BORING. The ballot chad recount is still being disputed in alot of individuals minds. Have you ever known any administration that did not have corruption among the ranks? Does not matter either Republican or Democrat they are all politicians. Still does not make it right.

I do commend Al Gore for his stand on Global warming awareness. I do not agree with him however on his statistics as far as who or what is the cause of Global warming.

The number one culprit I believe is the Earth's Sun. Cattle are right up there as CO2 polluters, methane and not to mention nitrates from cattle that go into the soil into ground water aquafers. Ever see a cow where a diaber I do not think so? Humans I surmize contribute between 2% to 5% of air pollution including trucks, industry and automobiles.

Who do you think put out those forest fires that burned millions of acres thousands and millions of years ago? No one but Mother Nature of course, when it rained. The Earth some how compensated for the CO2.

What about the poles melting? Ask the Sun and when you do use plenty of Sun screen. Rik Riley