Voices and sounds "in your head" could be real, page 1

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 07:18 AM

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New technology advancement makes the possibility of "voices in your head" real. With this new technology sound can be manipulated and directed. Sounds would actually "sound" like they are in your head.

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The new technology uses high-frequency sounds, in the 60 kHz range which is far above the human ear's potential (20-22kHz at best). Having mixed the ultrasounds - which support a very good directional orientation and are easier to maneuver – with the proper sound to be transmitted, the emitter is permitted to broadcast the desired audio content towards a specific target without alerting or annoying individuals which are in the same area: technically, it's like having a walkie-talkie set, only this is a one-way transmission. The specially-designed loudspeaker will send an ultrasonic beam, which will be directed towards the intended target and which will also carry/produce the audible sound, so the receiver will actually hear everything that's been broadcast. A laser pointer-beam has been placed in the center of the special speaker, so the emitter can accurately pinpoint the beam on the desired target, more or less the way one would take aim when shooting a rifle.

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Strictly from a "1984" based standpoint, this could have far-reaching conspiracy characteristics. A "power" such as this could be used anywhere from a sub-conscious level, to full-fledged mind abuse. This technology, though amazing, should be heavily regulated. Conspiracy-theorists just got the proof they need that others can manipulate what your "mind" hears.

I'm not sure I like the whole idea behind this technology. Makes you wonder if the powers that be could make someone think they are crazy etc. Abuse of this technology could get really out of hand, but it is amazing. Already in use?

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AceWombat04

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 08:33 AM

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While I can imagine numerous benefits arising from this technology's public use (many of which are mentioned in the article,) I must concur that given certain organizations' past (ongoing?) interest in utilizing radio waves, sound generating devices, and other means in an attempt to alter cognition and perception, it also has the potential for abuse.

Some might find this improbable at best, but even the article itself states:

The military have already expressed the interest in doctor Pompei's invention and Terry Conrad, president of American Technology has declared that the massive production of chips for converting the sound in high-frequency waves, especially since the company has recently signed a contract with the US Army for the implementation of Audio Spotlight as a weapon of psychological warfare. (from the article in the initial post.)

Tom Bedlam

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 10:59 AM

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That's been around a while. ATC came up with one version, the Israelis have another.

I've been to a demo, it's definitely odd. However, it has its drawbacks. The range is limited, the instrument is obvious, and the sound is slightly distorted. They don't do a good job with midrange to bass. You have to be in the open, you need to be away from sonically reflecting surfaces.

If it hits a building or something hard and resonant there will be little image zones all over the place where anyone can hear it.

They most definitely can't go through walls or structures with it.

So, it's interesting, in LRAD drag it has its uses. The best suggestion I heard was that you could use it for audio prompting in areas where you didn't want to disturb or confuse others nearby, like in airports.

2ciewan

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 11:14 AM

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I have one sitting on my desk.

Its a prototype unit that has already gone into production. We are using it (for example) on plasma screens in the window of shops, so that as you stand outside the store you can hear the audio from the screen without disturbing the street around the venue.

It works really well. I agree with the comments on the bass frequencies as they do not transmit too well, but as for clarity on the mid-range and high end it is crystal clear.

Very interesting toy, the way it will actually bounce off surfaces is also very useful, as with the correct installation/planning you can make sound come from a source where there is actually no speaker.

Tom Bedlam

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by 2ciewan
I have one sitting on my desk.

Its a prototype unit that has already gone into production. We are using it (for example) on plasma screens in the window of shops, so that as you stand outside the store you can hear the audio from the screen without disturbing the street around the venue.

It works really well. I agree with the comments on the bass frequencies as they do not transmit too well, but as for clarity on the mid-range and high end it is crystal clear.

Very interesting toy, the way it will actually bounce off surfaces is also very useful, as with the correct installation/planning you can make sound come from a source where there is actually no speaker.

Sweet! Maybe they fixed it since the proto we saw. They had lots of samples of "waterfalls" and "birds chirping", which were sort of pre-selected to have mostly high and upper mid-range freqs.

Voices were a bit over bright and sibilant, and there was a constant distortion that sort of reminds you of bad audio compression. But apparently they got rid of it?

Hal9000

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by Tom Bedlam
They most definitely can't go through walls or structures with it.

So I guess we should trade in our tin foil hat for a hard hat?

This sounds like amazing technology, and I can see some useful purposes, but as others have said I can also see this being abused. I recall a sonic device that was being developed for crowd control. Is this the same thing?

Tom Bedlam

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 11:31 AM

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They're related. Same company, similar technique.

Regenmacher

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 11:52 AM

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I think they better diguise it to sound like the target's own voice or people are bound to get pissed off and blow up the transmitter. Sounds like a novel way to get rid of your Ipod's headphones though.

New from Bose, the brain-stereo...coming soon.

malganis

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 11:56 AM

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Psychological warfare

I think the harms that this could cause if the technology is abused outweigh the 'benefits' of it.

antmax21

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 12:05 PM

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So those voices were real?
hehe
Yes I agree the drawbacks and use for negative affects do outweigh the benefits.

Tom Bedlam

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 12:08 PM

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You think you look dorky singing by yourself with an iPod, imagine how "special" you'll look when you're gettin' down with "one room stereo".

You'll be dancing around singing like an idiot, and no one outside the room will hear a thing.

2ciewan

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 12:20 PM

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if anyone is that interested ill post some pictures when i get a min.

theutahbigfoothunter

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 03:14 PM

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That would be geat! I would love to see some actual pictures of it if you have the time and they are handy, Thanks

soficrow

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 03:50 PM

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Great find.

I'm thinking this technology already is in use - seem to remember a trial ballon about a year ago. Will see if I can find the reference.

The following sentence does not make much sense to me overall, but it does state clearly that the military is interested in using the technology for psychological warfare...

The military have already expressed the interest in doctor Pompei's invention and Terry Conrad, president of American Technology has declared that the massive production of chips for converting the sound in high-frequency waves, especially since the company has recently signed a contract with the US Army for the implementation of Audio Spotlight as a weapon of psychological warfare.

Oh well. Better to know about it than not.

Deus_Brandon

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 03:53 PM

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WOW !!!! I do not know what to say about this !!! When is the earliest that it could have possibly be implemented !?!? And if it was able to be implemented Could it be implemented on a space the size a a court room ?!?! Such as the SUPREME COURT !?!?! Of course it would not always be in use but maybe just in the Supreme court ?? Would be really neat to find out when all of this was established ..

Icarus Rising

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 04:38 PM

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I believe sound waves are not all this HF beam can carry, and I also believe the tech has been around, and in use, for at least a couple years.

The_unraveller

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 04:46 PM

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The voices in my head is telling me that the government will most likely abuse it...

There will be uses for it... but in most cases it will be abused like any other thing that can be exploited. A damn shame... when amazing technological advancements has its negative effects (if it fell into the wrong hands).

Tom Bedlam

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by Icarus Rising
I believe sound waves are not all this HF beam can carry, and I also believe the tech has been around, and in use, for at least a couple years.

The "beam" IS sound, ultrasound. It's not magic, N-rays or adeledicnander force. It recombines in the overlap zone to form audible sound. That's all it is.

ATC is quite open about how it works, their description makes sense, you can look up their patents.

Here, have at it:
www.atcsd.com...

Icarus Rising

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 05:21 PM

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Different resonance frequencies in the overlap zone will produce different results. Some will produce audible sounds, others will produce other effects. I've had the device aimed at me, and I have felt them.

Tom Bedlam

posted on Jan, 22 2007 @ 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by Icarus Rising
Different resonance frequencies in the overlap zone will produce different results. Some will produce audible sounds, others will produce other effects. I've had the device aimed at me, and I have felt them.

Ah, well, all the comments I'd normally make will no doubt draw the ire of the mods, which is why I don't venture into the metaphysics threads.

As an engineer, and leaving the personalities aside, I'd have to say...how do you know? Why this device and not some other? What instruments did you use? Did you see it? Walk up to it and examine it? How did you measure the "different resonance frequencies"? Why do you think "different resonance frequencies", whatever that means to you, would cause "that effect"? Why, outside a lab environment, would someone be "aiming one at you"?

Given your particular circumstance, can you think of a simpler explanation that might also account for your experience?