According to CNN 1 Israeli died on 9/11

So, is it possible that the "Zionists killed Brits and Americans with impunity, (on Spetember 11, 2001) because they're protected by the Brits and Americans. All part of the same team."?

Are you suggesting the Brits and Americans contracted the job out to the Israelis and that explains all the connections to Israel?

Originally posted by septic
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Yeah, the Zionists killed Brits and Americans with impunity, because they're protected by the Brits and Americans. All part of the same team.

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I've made clear what I'm suggesting.

Britain runs Israel and America; and America, Israel and Britain attacked themselves on 911. Clues were strewn about to implicate Israel (and Pakistan) because to criticize Israel is synonymous with Antisemitism (you know, when you're hated by Jews), but the bulk of the evidence implicates the US Government, Big Finance (Jews, I know), Big Business, big media (more Jews), the US Military (with open eyes), the NYPD, the FDNY, the Mayor of New York, the Office of Emergency Management, and more.

Israel wouldn't exist without Hitler's Third Reich regardless of the Balfour declaration. Hitler was alleged to have been a Rothschild offspring with ties to Britain, but however much Zionists played a part in some of the worst atrocities known to man, Israel had a bit-part in 911 compared to the US government, media and military.

Was the NYPD involved because they are controlled by Israel? Do Zionists run the PANYNJ? How about the Good Fellas in the FDNY? Did they join the scam for Israel? Guilanni? How about Cantor Fitzgerald, were they all in for Israel, or all in to make a killing, as it were? Was the Office of Naval Intelligence targeted due to their investigations of Israel, or due to the investigations into massive fraud within the military?

Yes!

Originally posted by septic
reply to post by BRAVO949

 

I've made clear what I'm suggesting.

Britain runs Israel and America; and America, Israel and Britain attacked themselves on 911. Clues were strewn about to implicate Israel (and Pakistan) because to criticize Israel is synonymous with Antisemitism (you know, when you're hated by Jews), but the bulk of the evidence implicates the US Government, Big Finance (Jews, I know), Big Business, big media (more Jews), the US Military (with open eyes), the NYPD, the FDNY, the Mayor of New York, the Office of Emergency Management, and more.

Israel wouldn't exist without Hitler's Third Reich regardless of the Balfour declaration. Hitler was alleged to have been a Rothschild offspring with ties to Britain, but however much Zionists played a part in some of the worst atrocities known to man, Israel had a bit-part in 911 compared to the US government, media and military.

Was the NYPD involved because they are controlled by Israel? Do Zionists run the PANYNJ? How about the Good Fellas in the FDNY? Did they join the scam for Israel? Guilanni? How about Cantor Fitzgerald, were they all in for Israel, or all in to make a killing, as it were? Was the Office of Naval Intelligence targeted due to their investigations of Israel, or due to the investigations into massive fraud within the military?

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Yes to all? ?

One of the tricks the Stasi used on the East Germans was to spread rumors and propaganda which made them out to be more omnipotent than they really were. Their tactic was to make people believe everyone was being watched; they didn't have the resources or the manpower to actually watch everyone, but they learned that the fear they were watching everyone was enough.

To me, Zionists are just another gang of world class criminals who would dry up and die the week after NATO countries stop supporting them. Israel is a lightning rod placed in the heart of oil country for the benefit of the West. It has as much to do with Judaism as America has ever had to do with peace and freedom. Zip.

I sincerely doubt any one group controls the world, but all of them benefit by making their subjects believe they (the ruling classes) are more powerful than they really are. It is for this reason I don't buy half the sh!! said about Zionist omnipotence, especially since they allegedly control the media. It's the same old BS used since priests convinced people only they can talk to god.

septic, I don't think the Zionists or any other group has control over the world.

Zionists have way more control over US foreign policy than they should have though and we are so afraid to sound anti-Semtic that we do not stand up and say it.

Well, John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt wrote a book about "The Israel Lobby" and were attacked by the Zionists.

Avi Shliam, Ilan Pappe, Shlomo Sand, Tony Judt, Michael Neumann, Norman Finkelstein and many other brave Jews reveal the truth about Israeli history and criticize Israel and are attacked by the Zionists.

When you have a cse where one group can basically shut down debate, as you see happens here on ATS when Israel is criticized, you know you are dealing with the trye power behind the scenes.

Zionist do not control everything but they are the most powerful group and there is no close second.

Zionists can spy on the US and get away with it. Zionists can bribe the Congress and control the President and the media will ignore it.

No othe group has that power and the fact that we are attacked when we say Israel carried out 9/11 is just more evidence that proves how powerful they are.

Originally posted by septic
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Yes to all? ?

One of the tricks the Stasi used on the East Germans was to spread rumors and propaganda which made them out to be more omnipotent than they really were. Their tactic was to make people believe everyone was being watched; they didn't have the resources or the manpower to actually watch everyone, but they learned that the fear they were watching everyone was enough.

To me, Zionists are just another gang of world class criminals who would dry up and die the week after NATO countries stop supporting them. Israel is a lightning rod placed in the heart of oil country for the benefit of the West. It has as much to do with Judaism as America has ever had to do with peace and freedom. Zip.

I sincerely doubt any one group controls the world, but all of them benefit by making their subjects believe they (the ruling classes) are more powerful than they really are. It is for this reason I don't buy half the sh!! said about Zionist omnipotence, especially since they allegedly control the media. It's the same old BS used since priests convinced people only they can talk to god.

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How about the Israeli art students living nextdoor to the so-called hijackers? Or were they the actual hijackers?

How about Israel's connection to the antrax letters?

Lead hijacker on yacht with radical Zionist Jack Abramoff?

Israeli communications companies intercepting messages?

Don't these facts help explain why so few Israelis workers were killed on 9/11?

Originally posted by septic
reply to post by BRAVO949

 

Yes to all? ?

One of the tricks the Stasi used on the East Germans was to spread rumors and propaganda which made them out to be more omnipotent than they really were. Their tactic was to make people believe everyone was being watched; they didn't have the resources or the manpower to actually watch everyone, but they learned that the fear they were watching everyone was enough.

To me, Zionists are just another gang of world class criminals who would dry up and die the week after NATO countries stop supporting them. Israel is a lightning rod placed in the heart of oil country for the benefit of the West. It has as much to do with Judaism as America has ever had to do with peace and freedom. Zip.

I sincerely doubt any one group controls the world, but all of them benefit by making their subjects believe they (the ruling classes) are more powerful than they really are. It is for this reason I don't buy half the sh!! said about Zionist omnipotence, especially since they allegedly control the media. It's the same old BS used since priests convinced people only they can talk to god.

edit on 4-12-2011 by septic because: (no reason given)

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How about the Israeli art students living nextdoor to the so-called hijackers? Or were they the actual hijackers?

Repeating propaganda to a guy who realizes 911 was all propaganda will get you no where. There were no hijackers; I've never met an Israeli art student, and I don't believe the FBI.

How about Israel's connection to the antrax letters?

Hoax management. You are a case study for my argument that these distractions were put there deliberately to marginalize the truth movement. You see Jews everywhere but never consider they were put there specifically to attract your attention.

Lead hijacker on yacht with radical Zionist Jack Abramoff?

No hijackers, leaders or followers, therefor the yacht story doesn't hold water. Jack Abramoff is radical as compared to who?

Israeli communications companies intercepting messages?

Who gave you this information? Have you considered why this information was released?

Don't these facts help explain why so few Israelis workers were killed on 9/11?

Have you researched the numbers of the alleged victims who never existed? It's looking more and more like very few people if any, Israeli or otherwise, died at the WTC on 911.

And the most far reaching and long lasting consequence of the the attacks of 9/11 in which suspiciously so few Israeli workers who worked in the WTC towers were killed is a massive $1 trillion war against those who Israel considers their enemy?

Has the former head of the Russian intelligence agency come out and publicly stated that Israel pulled off 9/11 or am I wrong abou that?

Didn't the former head of German Intelligence say Israel did 9/11?

Didn't the former head of Italian Intelligence say Israel did 9/11?

Didn't Dr. Alan Sabrosky (Jewish) former Director of Studies at the US Army War College also say that Israel did 9/11?

Are you saying that all these experts are conspiring to hide the real criminals and have instead implicated Israel in the crimes of 9/11?

Have one million Iraqis lost their lives as part of a cover-up of who really carried out 9/11?

Is Israel planning to attack Iran not as part of a greater scheme that included staging 9/11 but as a way to hide the truth of 9/11?

Originally posted by septic
reply to post by BRAVO949

 

How about the Israeli art students living nextdoor to the so-called hijackers? Or were they the actual hijackers?

Repeating propaganda to a guy who realizes 911 was all propaganda will get you no where. There were no hijackers; I've never met an Israeli art student, and I don't believe the FBI.

How about Israel's connection to the antrax letters?

Hoax management. You are a case study for my argument that these distractions were put there deliberately to marginalize the truth movement. You see Jews everywhere but never consider they were put there specifically to attract your attention.

Lead hijacker on yacht with radical Zionist Jack Abramoff?

No hijackers, leaders or followers, therefor the yacht story doesn't hold water. Jack Abramoff is radical as compared to who?

Israeli communications companies intercepting messages?

Who gave you this information? Have you considered why this information was released?

Don't these facts help explain why so few Israelis workers were killed on 9/11?

Have you researched the numbers of the alleged victims who never existed? It's looking more and more like very few people if any, Israeli or otherwise, died at the WTC on 911.

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And the most far reaching and long lasting consequence of the the attacks of 9/11 in which suspiciously so few Israeli workers who worked in the WTC towers were killed is a massive $1 trillion war against those who Israel considers their enemy?

More hearsay. No one died in the towers, they were dismantled and empty.

Has the former head of the Russian intelligence agency come out and publicly stated that Israel pulled off 9/11 or am I wrong abou that?

What, Russians aren't pretending nukes are real, and America went to the moon? Why do you believe the Russians are trustworthy? How have you verified the story, anyway?

Didn't the former head of German Intelligence say Israel did 9/11?

Zionist occupied Germany? I suppose if they were trying to implicate Israel they should have accused Peru?

Didn't the former head of Italian Intelligence say Israel did 9/11?

Which Intelligence agency do you find most trustworthy? The foreign ones? I'm curious why the word from any of these professional liars rings true to you. Is it because they're criticizing Jews?

Didn't Dr. Alan Sabrosky (Jewish) former Director of Studies at the US Army War College also say that Israel did 9/11?

Because it's not fashionable to say the US military did 911, and in America no one can criticize Jews.

Are you saying that all these experts are conspiring to hide the real criminals and have instead implicated Israel in the crimes of 9/11?

No, I'm saying all these criminals are conspiring to hide the real criminals and at the same time marginalize the people who are fixated with blaming Jews.

Have one million Iraqis lost their lives as part of a cover-up of who really carried out 9/11?

Huh? They lost their lives because we train humanity and rational thought out of our soldiers, turning them into mindless, psychotic killing machines. They don't do it for Israel, they do it for greed, but they think they do it for their country.

Is Israel planning to attack Iran not as part of a greater scheme that included staging 9/11 but as a way to hide the truth of 9/11?

Fear has engulfed you. Fear is their point. No need to attack Iran. What makes you think Iran isn't in on it?

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More hearsay. No one died in the towers, they were dismantled and empty.

Oh Boy!!!! This just keeps getting better and better and better!!! Now there are no victims, no planes - hell, are you even sure there were towers??? So those towers were dismantled and empty? Wow.

Originally posted by hooper
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More hearsay. No one died in the towers, they were dismantled and empty.

Oh Boy!!!! This just keeps getting better and better and better!!! Now there are no victims, no planes - hell, are you even sure there were towers???

So those towers were dismantled and empty? Wow.

Yeah, just like all controlled demolitions. Why do you need to believe the buildings were fully occupied? Does it assuage your guilt for supporting the deaths of hundreds of thousands?

Originally posted by septic

Originally posted by hooper
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More hearsay. No one died in the towers, they were dismantled and empty.

Oh Boy!!!! This just keeps getting better and better and better!!! Now there are no victims, no planes - hell, are you even sure there were towers???

So those towers were dismantled and empty? Wow.

Yeah, just like all controlled demolitions. Why do you need to believe the buildings were fully occupied? Does it assuage your guilt for supporting the deaths of hundreds of thousands?

Think there may be a little room between fully occupied and empty, wouldn't you say? There were innocent folk in those buildings that died that day. I feel no guilt. None.

Originally posted by hooper

Think there may be a little room between fully occupied and empty, wouldn't you say? There were innocent folk in those buildings that died that day. I feel no guilt. None.

Agreed, there is room between the extremes, yet some simply won't consider examining that space. How many of the "innocent folk" were real people and how many were fake, don't you think that's an important question?

I suspect you feel no guilt because you won't allow yourself to consider any other alternatives. How many hundreds of thousands of innocent people must continue die as retribution for the few innocent folk you imagine died on 911?

So what you are saying basically is that there is no such thing as objecive reality?

Israel has pulled off at least a dozen false-flag attacks that match the exact M. O. of 9/11 including false mulitple passports, impersonating non-Jews and the extensive use of communications technology but you are saying that the last thing we should do is to blame Israel for doing something that they have a solid track record of doing over the last six decades?

The antrax letters target a senator who wants to defund Israel's terror industry and the antrax terror scheme has all the hallmarks of an Israeli false-flag operation but does not in anyway fit into you "crime to cover up" explanation at all.

You may argue that there were no hijackers and you may be right about that. However, I am talking about the official stoy's hijackers which are real in the sense that there is a whole intelligence "legend" associated with them.

That intelligence legend is intertwined with Israel agents and the radical Zionist Jack Abramoff.

Jack Abramoff does exist and the man the official story says was the lead hijacker, whether he was or not, is associated with the radical Zionist Jack Abranoff.

The WTC owner was a radical Zionists and admits that he destroyed building 7.

The executive director of the 9/11 Commission was selected because he is a radical Zionist and he made sure nothing was revealed to indict Israel.

The judges invoved in 9/11 case were radical Zionists.

World-wide intelligence experts know Israel pulled off 9/11.

Israel has infiltrated every aspect of the US Government and owns the executive branch, congress and the judiciary.

At this point spetic, you are just protecting Israel because you are not making any real claims but just denying clear documented facts.

Even if the official story is a 100% lie that fact does not explain away the fact that all the liars are radical Zionists trying to protect Israel from being linked to the crimes of 9/11.

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So what you are saying basically is that there is no such thing as objecive reality?

Not at all. I think Israel is a plague on the planet and will not last another 25 years (a guy can hope), so don't misunderstand me. I only suggest that when you think you've got the answer, double check your work and ask yourself if the conclusions you have reached might not be the conclusions you were intended to reach. We are talking about a class of con artist with a profound understanding of human psychology, after all.

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I agree that is a tell, if i've ever seen one, but some people are so blind you would have to walk up and kick them in the nuts to get their attention.
I mean how stupid does someone need to be, a place that would be full of Israelis, suddenly has almost none.
All the others got their phone call telling them it was on, this dummy forgot to charge his cell phone, so he never got the call.
Even the guy who leased the WTC and his daughter both broke stride and never showed up at the WTC on 9/11, why the hell would they, Da!

When the people do wake up it will be to late, and sure the US did not do this they just let it happen,.

How nice was it the Pentagon was hit on 9/11 right where the records were kept for for the missing 2 Trillion dollars, that was announced by Rumsfield on 9/10.

Give me a break, this is the exact same thing Hitler did to gain control of Germany, the only difference is they the US Bums, had the help of Israel. And look a open check book, destroy our Constitution, get the pipe line in Afghanistan, take over Iraq, what ever else they want.

Originally posted by acctnosam
So you're saying the planned Pearl Harbor so they can get the American's to support a war. Just like 911 supported the war on terror, not the war on terrorism which is what americans would call it.


But let me look at it at you're point of view. Iran say's they want to wipe Israel off the map. The united States is Israel's ally. Ok then I say the war is just since we are protecting our ally. But why the hell did we have to start a war on terrorism on the premise of 9/11 instead of the premise that Israel our ally is being threatned?

Maybe because no one would give a flying banana about Israel if it wasn't for us being attacked at home. Which might I add, would never have happened if it wasn't for NORAD'S stand down that day caused by Cheney's authorization

And so...
The war machine aka united states fueled by propaganda, biased media, and lies.
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[edit on 16-1-2007 by acctnosam]

Source the statement "Iran say's they want to wipe Israel off the map." I think this is fiction.

You say "The united States is Israel's ally." Please show me the Treaty of Alliance please.

Israel is not America's ally. She is in it for herself alone. Come the "Samson Option" I wonder how many illegal Israeli nukes are coded for American soil?

googolplex,

I agree with everything you wrote and the way you wrote it except for one important detail.

Have you ever read about the post-war German trials related to the man who the pre-war German government accused of starting the Reichstag fire?

From what I have read the German government did not set the Reichstag fire but it was indeed set by a Communist. Post-war German counts upheld the original conviction.

As you well know, the propaganda barrage did not start on September 12, 2001.

You may want to look into this vital historical event.

Originally posted by googolplex
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I agree that is a tell, if i've ever seen one, but some people are so blind you would have to walk up and kick them in the nuts to get their attention.
I mean how stupid does someone need to be, a place that would be full of Israelis, suddenly has almost none.
All the others got their phone call telling them it was on, this dummy forgot to charge his cell phone, so he never got the call.
Even the guy who leased the WTC and his daughter both broke stride and never showed up at the WTC on 9/11, why the hell would they, Da!

When the people do wake up it will be to late, and sure the US did not do this they just let it happen,.

How nice was it the Pentagon was hit on 9/11 right where the records were kept for for the missing 2 Trillion dollars, that was announced by Rumsfield on 9/10.

Give me a break, this is the exact same thing Hitler did to gain control of Germany, the only difference is they the US Bums, had the help of Israel. And look a open check book, destroy our Constitution, get the pipe line in Afghanistan, take over Iraq, what ever else they want.

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Agreed, there is room between the extremes, yet some simply won't consider examining that space. How many of the "innocent folk" were real people and how many were fake, don't you think that's an important question?

No, that's not an important question, that is a statement that proves profound delusion.

I suspect you feel no guilt because you won't allow yourself to consider any other alternatives.

I have not heard any alternatives. An alternative would be based on the same set of facts, making up your own facts and ignoring other facts does not produce an alternative. It produces a fantasy.

How many hundreds of thousands of innocent people must continue die as retribution for the few innocent folk you imagine died on 911?

Ask the folks that are killing them. And its not the US. And its not Israel. Its their own people that are strapping C4 to their chest, parking car bombs in front of Mosques and executing people on the Internet. But that's not an "alternative" you are willing to consider is it?

Okay - for all you smart people out there I have a comment.

The OP refers to the fact that CNN said only 1 Israeli died on 9/11.

Well, that is not exactly true.

The accurate statement would be that fewer Israelis died on 9/11 than would be expected given the number of Israelis who worked in the WTC complex.

Everyone can argue about all sorts of things but just look at the ratio of the tiny number of Israeli Jews who worked in the towers who died on 9/11 (three, I think) compared to all the radical Zionists involved in every other aspect of 9/11 including the lease holder of the buildings and his son and daughter.

Two hundred Israeli arrested!

Someone mentioned that only five Norwegians died.

Okay - but were 200 Norwegians arrested on, before or just after 9/11 connected to the crimes?

Does Norway have a history of attacking American assets and killing Americans in false-flag operations?

Has Norway lied to us over and over again and spied on us?

Did we get dragged into a war with Sweden on behalf of Norway?

Was a radical Norwegian selected as the head of the 9/11 Commission?

Only because the sacred "J's" are involved have we been bullied into not investigating all the facts.

The more you look into the connections the more obvious it becomes and no wonder Intel experts around the world say Israel did the deed.

Guilty - next please.