According to CNN 1 Israeli died on 9/11

What you said could also be understood in the context of this quote.

“The Devil's greatest accomplishment was convincing the world he didn't exist,”

It is possible that you have taken the bait, swallowed it and are now been reeled into the boat.

Originally posted by septic
reply to post by BRAVO949

 

The Zionists own the media from which we learn of the dancing Israelis.

They own the media from which we learn that they own the media.

They want this information to be noticed.

Thanks to "antisemitism", people who notice the evidence that points to Israeli involvement can be dismissed as "anti-Semites".

Jews can therefore be purposefully placed in positions of power as lightning rods with a built in circuit breaker.

Don't take the bait.

edit on 27-11-2011 by septic because: (no reason given)

reply to post by BRAVO949


Apparently you missed my earlier post.......

Or have problems with reading comprehension

The real number of Israelis killed at WTC was 5

Which is more than some other countries such as France, Spain, Switzerland and even China which have
populations many times that of Israel

The point of which is what....?

Usual anti Jewish nonsense

The fact is that Israel suffered more loss than many other nations which have significant larger populations

Does this mean that France was in on 9/11...?

France has population over 10 times that of Israel

Spain has population many times that of Israel

Yet both lost fewer citizens than Israel

reply to post by BRAVO949

What you said could also be understood in the context of this quote.

“The Devil's greatest accomplishment was convincing the world he didn't exist,”

It is possible that you have taken the bait, swallowed it and are now been reeled into the boat.

I suppose.

It is also possible that you underestimate the power of propaganda. Highlighting Israeli involvement deflects attention from the US government at the same time it marginalizes as anti Semites those in the Truth Movement who notice.
Perhaps there is another reason why some folks take comfort in blaming the Israelis, but if they're smart enough to pull off 911, they're smart enough to cover their tracks. The Intelligence services behind 911 use human nature against us, and the Israel card has all the hallmarks of a well-placed diversionary trap.

Apparently you are not good at math!

The number of Israeli Jews living in New York is much, much greater than the number of French citizens living in New York city even though France has many more people than Israel.

Pro-Zionist Website

somewhere between 31,000 and 41,000 Israelis live in the New York area.

There are only 5.7 million Jews in Israel. Granted too many.

The population of France is 64 million.

Does this prove that supporters of Israel have a hard time understanding and accepting amy and all facts?

I think so.

Originally posted by thedman
reply to post by BRAVO949

 

Apparently you missed my earlier post.......

Or have problems with reading comprehension

The real number of Israelis killed at WTC was 5

Which is more than some other countries such as France, Spain, Switzerland and even China which have
populations many times that of Israel

The point of which is what....?

Usual anti Jewish nonsense

The fact is that Israel suffered more loss than many other nations which have significant larger populations

Does this mean that France was in on 9/11...?

France has population over 10 times that of Israel

Spain has population many times that of Israel

Yet both lost fewer citizens than Israel

I don't like to argue with anyone who knews that the official story of 9/11 is a total fraud but the 9/11 fraud is not the only fraud we have to worry about.

Now this is an absolute fact. No matter how mildly a person criticizes Israel they are deemed anti-Semetic.

I accepted that fact a long time ago and I am not going to stop telling people about the fraud of Zionism and how Zionists have attacked my country whether it was the Lavon Affair, the USS Liberty or sucking us into invading Iraq no matter what names people call me.

Zionism is a fraud, Israel is the world champion of false-flags and Israel's fingerprints all over 9/11.

Yes there were Americans who went along with the 9/11 crime. Some of them were Christian Zionists and some were Zionists Jews and God knows some were probably just garden variety psychopaths who did not need a psychopathic ideology like Zionism to motivate them to kill innocent human beings.

If you don't think Zionism is a fraud, that Israel isn't the greatest threat to world peace and sucking the life out of the USA then you need to read more and listen to the "good" Jews who will explain exactly why you should not trust anything about Israel.

The truth is Zionism is the most anti-Semitic monster of all time.

Please, please listen to what this man is saying right from his heart.

Originally posted by septic
reply to post by BRAVO949

 

What you said could also be understood in the context of this quote.

“The Devil's greatest accomplishment was convincing the world he didn't exist,”

It is possible that you have taken the bait, swallowed it and are now been reeled into the boat.

I suppose.

It is also possible that you underestimate the power of propaganda. Highlighting Israeli involvement deflects attention from the US government at the same time it marginalizes as anti Semites those in the Truth Movement who notice.
Perhaps there is another reason why some folks take comfort in blaming the Israelis, but if they're smart enough to pull off 911, they're smart enough to cover their tracks. The Intelligence services behind 911 use human nature against us, and the Israel card has all the hallmarks of a well-placed diversionary trap.

I don't care if you are a member of the Fourth Reich or the KKK. Continuing to spew the lies about 4,000 Israelis.....especially since the facts were pointed out on the first page is just more evidence of your lack of desire to actually find the truth.

Do I have a post that mentions the "4,000 Israelis"?

I don't think I do.

I understand that mix-up perfectly.

I hope you agree that the company officials at the Israeli company confirmed that individuals received messages before the events of 9/11 that warned them not to go into work.

This "story" was in Israeli and American newspapers and as far as I know no one denies it.

Were other Israelis warned not to go into work? I don't know but the number of Israelis who worked in the buildings who were killed does seem statistically low.

If you can find any of my posts where I claim that 4,000 Israeli Jews stayed away from work on 9/11 as per the myth I will certainly apologize to you and everyone.

Originally posted by vipertech0596
I don't care if you are a member of the Fourth Reich or the KKK. Continuing to spew the lies about 4,000 Israelis.....especially since the facts were pointed out on the first page is just more evidence of your lack of desire to actually find the truth.

reply to post by BRAVO949


Apparently, you do not bother to read the links you post. Your "summary" page link you posted mentions all the falsehoods, Odigo, 4,000 Israelis...etc....

reply to post by BRAVO949


Israel is a fraud, as the USA is a fraud as all religions are frauds.

The people who run the USA are the same people who run Israel. We are British colonies. Focusing on Judaism and claiming they attacked "my country" is missing the point completely.

Well there arent that many Israelis to begin with and the attack was in New York. You have to put that into some context. Only 1 Israeli died, although...

Sorry - where is the "summary" page, exactly?

The Odigo story in which Israelis were warned to not go near the WTC are is 100% true.

Here is an article from the Israeli newspaper Haaretz proving the Odigo story.

Odigo (Israeli company) says workers were warned of attack

Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.

Micha Macover, CEO of the company, said the two workers received the messages and immediately after the terror attack informed the company's management, which immediately contacted the Israeli security services, which brought in the FBI.

The Washington Post, 10/4/2001 also had a story confirming the Odigo warning story.

You can defend Israel all you want and you can say anything you want but if you make a false claim then you will be called on it.

I hope you agree that there was an Israeli on Flight 11 who had been an officer in an elite Israeli commando unit.

Originally posted by vipertech0596
reply to post by BRAVO949

 

Apparently, you do not bother to read the links you post. Your "summary" page link you posted mentions all the falsehoods, Odigo, 4,000 Israelis...etc....

I agree with part of what you are saying.

The US far from perfect and is a fraud in many ways but we do have a constitution and we at least make an attempt to treat people equally even though in reality we do not.

Israel has no constitution and refuses to write one specifically because the refuse to grant full rights to non-Jews in Israel.

It seems you are focusing on Judaism not me. I posted the video in which the religious man explains exactly that not only is Zionism not Judaism it is counter to the teaching of Judaism.

In fact Jews are people who either practice Judaism or whose parents or grandparents did - Jews are not a race.

The claim is the main fraud of Zionism. Just because people converted to a religion does not mean they can go back to the place in which the religion was founded.

Israel attacked the US or US assets several times. No one is saying that Judaism attacked the US.

Originally posted by septic
reply to post by BRAVO949

 

Israel is a fraud, as the USA is a fraud as all religions are frauds.

The people who run the USA are the same people who run Israel. We are British colonies. Focusing on Judaism and claiming they attacked "my country" is missing the point completely.

reply to post by BRAVO949

I agree with part of what you are saying.

The US far from perfect and is a fraud in many ways but we do have a constitution and we at least make an attempt to treat people equally even though in reality we do not.

I don't mean to be combative, but honestly, the USA was borne of slavery and genocide, and the constitution was written by rich, slave-owning land owners for rich slave-owning land owners. It is a ruse to make the slave classes believe they are free. Our form of government is based on the British form of government...the house of representatives is the "house of commons" and the Senate is the "house of lords". Even our flag is based on the British colors. We are fed a constant diet of "freedom and democracy" propaganda, while the Israelis are fed a constant diet of "the world hates the Jews" propaganda.

We have been at war for almost 250 years,

Israel has no constitution and refuses to write one specifically because the refuse to grant full rights to non-Jews in Israel.

Jews are controlled by a constant reminder that the world is out to get them, then the actions of their leaders guarantee it. It is a self-fulfilling prophesy. Rank and file Israelis are some of the most brainwashed and xenophobic psychopaths in the history of the world...second maybe only to Americans.

It seems you are focusing on Judaism not me. I posted the video in which the religious man explains exactly that not only is Zionism not Judaism it is counter to the teaching of Judaism.

What is your point then? All "religious" people scare the crap out of me, rabbis and priests and imams, oh my! Having a mythology-believing rabbi tell me Israel has nothing to do with Judaism doesn't make me feel any better. Israel is a Jews-only nation, therefore they have a built-in "get out of jail free" card in the form of "anti-Semitism". Having Israeli Jews be the point-men for a crime like 911 is a good propaganda move, especially when we're trying to drum up a "clash of civilizations".

In fact Jews are people who either practice Judaism or whose parents or grandparents did - Jews are not a race.

Yes, I am aware of this. I come from a family with Hungarian-Jewish heritage. Judaism is the oldest example of xenophobic tribalism known to man. In order for the "religion" to continue, the tribe NEEDS enemies. In my own family I am viewed as a holocaust-denying anti-Semite, so strong is the indoctrination.

The claim is the main fraud of Zionism. Just because people converted to a religion does not mean they can go back to the place in which the religion was founded.

Israel attacked the US or US assets several times. No one is saying that Judaism attacked the US.

I stand corrected, however you're still assuming "US" assets are somehow different than "Israeli" assets. To the real owner class, there is no difference. National borders are in place for the control of the slave classes, for the benefit of the owner classes. Divide and conquer.

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If you had been paying attention would have found that it was 5 Israeli citizens who died at WTC

Well - I don't think you are being combative at all.

I agree with everything you say right up to the point of the idea about some hidden power that controls Jews and Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists as well as evey other group or nation.

I just don't believe that, mainly because the people ordering us around are not operating in secret, exactly.

They are not right in front of the news cameras either but they are not hidden.

There is not one power behind things either.

I am not at all saying that if one "power" could not take over compete control that they would not but the can not for now and the powerful people and groups do not agree with each other.

Let me give you an example.

Contrary to the accusations I don't think "Jews" totally control the US. A tiny group of lunatics who claim to be Jews have power over American foreign policy decisions especially relating to the MIddle East way out of proporation to the fraction of the population the represent.

My friend who is Jewish and a lecturer at a well-known university has never been asked for his opinion in anything and as a Jew has no more say than a migrant worker picking rasberries in California.

Even that small group of powerful radically pro-Zionist American Jews don't control everything. If they did, Israel would not feel the need to spy on the US tot he degree they do.

If those radical American Zionists controlled the US, Iran would already be dust. They don't though. They have way more control than they should - however.

Originally posted by septic
reply to post by BRAVO949

 

I agree with part of what you are saying.

The US far from perfect and is a fraud in many ways but we do have a constitution and we at least make an attempt to treat people equally even though in reality we do not.

I don't mean to be combative, but honestly, the USA was borne of slavery and genocide, and the constitution was written by rich, slave-owning land owners for rich slave-owning land owners. It is a ruse to make the slave classes believe they are free. Our form of government is based on the British form of government...the house of representatives is the "house of commons" and the Senate is the "house of lords". Even our flag is based on the British colors. We are fed a constant diet of "freedom and democracy" propaganda, while the Israelis are fed a constant diet of "the world hates the Jews" propaganda.

We have been at war for almost 250 years,

Israel has no constitution and refuses to write one specifically because the refuse to grant full rights to non-Jews in Israel.

Jews are controlled by a constant reminder that the world is out to get them, then the actions of their leaders guarantee it. It is a self-fulfilling prophesy. Rank and file Israelis are some of the most brainwashed and xenophobic psychopaths in the history of the world...second maybe only to Americans.

It seems you are focusing on Judaism not me. I posted the video in which the religious man explains exactly that not only is Zionism not Judaism it is counter to the teaching of Judaism.

What is your point then? All "religious" people scare the crap out of me, rabbis and priests and imams, oh my! Having a mythology-believing rabbi tell me Israel has nothing to do with Judaism doesn't make me feel any better. Israel is a Jews-only nation, therefore they have a built-in "get out of jail free" card in the form of "anti-Semitism". Having Israeli Jews be the point-men for a crime like 911 is a good propaganda move, especially when we're trying to drum up a "clash of civilizations".

In fact Jews are people who either practice Judaism or whose parents or grandparents did - Jews are not a race.

Yes, I am aware of this. I come from a family with Hungarian-Jewish heritage. Judaism is the oldest example of xenophobic tribalism known to man. In order for the "religion" to continue, the tribe NEEDS enemies. In my own family I am viewed as a holocaust-denying anti-Semite, so strong is the indoctrination.

The claim is the main fraud of Zionism. Just because people converted to a religion does not mean they can go back to the place in which the religion was founded.

Israel attacked the US or US assets several times. No one is saying that Judaism attacked the US.

I stand corrected, however you're still assuming "US" assets are somehow different than "Israeli" assets. To the real owner class, there is no difference. National borders are in place for the control of the slave classes, for the benefit of the owner classes. Divide and conquer.

reply to post by BRAVO949

There are only 5.7 million Jews in Israel. Granted too many.

And for some reason you get all sensitive when someone calls you an Anti-Semite. Go figure.

reply to post by BRAVO949

Well - I don't think you are being combative at all.

I agree with everything you say right up to the point of the idea about some hidden power that controls Jews and Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists as well as evey other group or nation.

You misunderstand me, I never claimed they were all controlled from some central hidden power. History has proved that the worst apples of society are the ones who rise to the top. They would as soon slit each others' throats if given the chance, but they will all protect the system that keeps them in power.

The owner class...the ones behind the scenes are likely simply just a different breed of the criminally insane. Think of the mafia on a global scale; working in competition at times, or as allies at others. We're paying "protection money" to the US govt the same way neighborhood grocery stores pay protection money to the local mafia. As far as I can tell the New World Order is already here...it never left.

I just don't believe that, mainly because the people ordering us around are not operating in secret, exactly.

I don't quite follow you here...by "ordering us around", what do you mean? I am referring to perception management.

They are not right in front of the news cameras either but they are not hidden.

By "they" who do you mean? Many prominent news personalities are in fact high-placed Intelligence service "assets" who are also members of high-powered think tanks such as the Council On Foreign Relations and Bilderberg.

What I am referring to is Operation Mockingbird and characters like Edward Bernays.
The Media Are The Enemy

There is not one power behind things either.

I agree, but the enemy of my enemy is my friend...in this case, the rich against the poor. Today's "democracy" is simply modern feudalism, with each "kingdom" using whatever means necessary to control their serf class and at the same time build an army of brainwashed killers to go steal the stuff of the neighboring kingdom. They then use the increased land and resources and not to forget the captured slave labor to increase the output of priests and propagandists, to thereby brainwash an even bigger army and do it all over again.
Twilight of the Psychopaths

I am not at all saying that if one "power" could not take over compete control that they would not but the can not for now and the powerful people and groups do not agree with each other.

The world and the people who populate her are too disparate for that much commonality. Smaller is better, one world government will fail, if it hasn't already.

Let me give you an example.

Contrary to the accusations I don't think "Jews" totally control the US. A tiny group of lunatics who claim to be Jews have power over American foreign policy decisions especially relating to the MIddle East way out of proporation to the fraction of the population the represent.

My friend who is Jewish and a lecturer at a well-known university has never been asked for his opinion in anything and as a Jew has no more say than a migrant worker picking rasberries in California.

Even that small group of powerful radically pro-Zionist American Jews don't control everything. If they did, Israel would not feel the need to spy on the US tot he degree they do.

If those radical American Zionists controlled the US, Iran would already be dust. They don't though. They have way more control than they should - however.

What I'm saying is America as we know it has to go. The corruption is too far gone to "fix", considering it was built to be (and remains) a wealth generating colony for really rich people on the other side of the ocean.

Hooper,

There aren't too many Jews in the world.

There are too many Jews occupying Palestine.

Let me restate what I wrote.

"There are only 5.7 million Jews in Israel. Granted too many Jews are living in what Zionists call Israel but what good people know is Palestine.

How is that?

There are loads of Israeli Jews living in New York. Granted too few! All the Jews who live in Israel (really Palestine) should move to the US and if that want to live in New York great.

Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by BRAVO949

 

There are only 5.7 million Jews in Israel. Granted too many.

And for some reason you get all sensitive when someone calls you an Anti-Semite. Go figure.

Septic,

You mentioned the mafia but if you look into organized crime you are going to be shocked at how different real organized crime was especially in the 1920's to the 1960's compared to what Hollywood propaganda leads you to believe.

They took the Edward Bernays concepts in steroids.

The book and movie "Exodus" are fabulous examples of myth made reality as another example.

The real godfather was not Italian he was Jewish and his name was Meyer Lansky. Meyer Lansky and Jewish controlled American organized crime played a vital role in the creation of Israel.

Just listen to this and accept each anwser he gives to be a 100% lie except he is honest when he says he is not religious.

reply to post by BRAVO949


The summary page, is what YOUR link led too. And again with the Odigo story.....typical, read the first part, but don't bother to gather the rest of the facts. The message warned of a terrorist attack, no details were given.