Former members of amorc, tmo, rosicrucian?

ML


The Rosicrucians are Christian in nature, or Christic; meaning that they explore, and strive to live, the Christ-like or Christic Principles(Gnosis) found in all Religions.

Let us remember that Father C.R.C., whether a solely symbolic individual, or historical as well, was Initiated by Islamic Masters(probably Sufi-Gnostic s or Sophees) in "Damcar".




[edit on 2-6-2007 by Tamahu]

I believe I understanding where you are coming from Masonic Light; thank you for taking the time to reply. I have in the past read about the origins of the Rosicrucian order; I gues I was curious if you were perhaps referring to an ineffable kind of lineage as opposed to the historical ones.
I have been told in the past that members of a/the white lodge will contact you totally apart from/regardless of any monogram ordering or orders you might belong to.

Originally posted by Tamahu
ML


The Rosicrucians are Christian in nature, or Christic; meaning that they explore, and strive to live, the Christ-like or Christic Principles(Gnosis) found in all Religions.

Let us remember that Father C.R.C., whether a solely symbolic individual, or historical as well, was Initiated by Islamic Masters(probably Sufi-Gnostic s or Sophees) in "Damcar".

I would argue that our Father C.R.C. was initiated by Sufi Masters, instead of using the term "Islamic Masters". I realize that Sufi Masters are the true Islamic Masters, and I would venture that you would probably agree. However, what the masses of Muslims consider "masters" are nothing of the sort, and they generally consider our Sufi Brethren to be heretics.

Originally posted by whatukno
You don't find this group they find you. Just a word to the wise though. I wouldent go searching too hard for people that make the Illuminati look like the local elks club.

And you people wonder why no one talks?



"When the Student is Ready... the Teacher Comes"....

Illuminati look like the local elks club.

Originally posted by Masonic LightNevertheless, many of them were Masons, but Masons and Rosicrucians are not always the same thing.

But they are not always different

Well, I'm a current member of the Masonic Rosicrucian Society...what do you want to know?

Zedd and I wote a pretty good thread concerning the Rosicrucians a couple years ago... it should hopefully still be in the ATS archive; I'll try to look it up and post the link.

Here you go:

ATS

Hope it helps

[edit on 2007/12/8 by The Soothsayer]

Originally posted by Artifex
Well, I'm a current member of the Masonic Rosicrucian Society...what do you want to know?

Hmmm okay...

Where are the scrolls of the true teachings of Jesus currently kept?

Uh... let me think, that came up at the last convention right after we discussed annual budget.

Come on... it's not like that. The masonic rosicrucian society is a group of
masons with a philosophical bent... it's a research society, not the keepers of any sacred whatchamacalits.

Originally posted by Artifex
Come on... it's not like that. The masonic rosicrucian society is a group of
masons with a philosophical bent... it's a research society, not the keepers of any sacred whatchamacalits.

How disappointing and here I was hoping you had some real answers... so may I ask which Order you joined and your level?

So no secret sacred whatchamacalits?

Too bad

Masonic Societs Rosicruciana in Civitatibus Foederatis

I am a VIIth grade Adeptus Exemptus.

I am well acquainted with the Chief Adept in my state and the Supreme Magus of the USA.

Originally posted by zorgon

How disappointing and here I was hoping you had some real answers... so may I ask which Order you joined and your level?

The Masonic Rosicrucian Society functions as a research society. It is an honorary invitational body: candidates for admission must be regular Master Masons in good standing, and trinitarian Christians. The High Council's website is located here.

Originally posted by Masonic Light
The Masonic Rosicrucian Society functions as a research society.

My thanks... That was a chapter I was not aware of...

I find it fascinating how you appear when there is a question

Originally posted by Artifex
Uh... let me think, that came up at the last convention right after we discussed annual budget.

Come on... it's not like that. The masonic rosicrucian society is a group of
masons with a philosophical bent... it's a research society, not the keepers of any sacred whatchamacalits.

Thanks for the info... I was not trying to 'draw you out' so to speak...

As to the sacred whatchamacalits...

"The Secret Doctrines of Jesus" by H. Spencer Lewis F.R.C PhD
"The Mystical Life of Jesus" by H. Spencer Lewis F.R.C PhD

The 'documents' I was looking for are in a vault beneath the Vatican

This is just like masonry... People like to pretend that it's a big secretive thing.. There is a wealth of information about the Rosicrusians and AMORC out there.. READ BOOKS!!! BOOKS ARE YOUR FRIENDS....

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
READ BOOKS!!! BOOKS ARE YOUR FRIENDS....

Funny I could have sworn I just posted two BOOK titles

I already have those BOOKS and many more BOOKS

So why are you YELLING

What I don't have is copies of the stuff below the Vatican

Originally posted by zorgon

Where are the scrolls of the true teachings of Jesus currently kept?

Do you have any indication that such a thing exists or that if they did they were not immediately destroyed?

I would love to have rifle around in the Vatican vaults myself or perhaps discover Ivan's lost library...sadly these are the things that dreams are made of...

Originally posted by KilgoreTrout
Do you have any indication that such a thing exists or that if they did they were not immediately destroyed?

I would love to have rifle around in the Vatican vaults myself or perhaps discover Ivan's lost library...sadly these are the things that dreams are made of...

Might take more than a rifle to get us in there

The Holy See
www.vatican.va...

The Secret Archives (well the ones they will let you see... but there is lots there...
asv.vatican.va...

Vatican Library
bav.vatican.va...

Vatican Exhibit Main Hall
Library of Congress

www.ibiblio.org...


Secret Teachings of Jesus Look at Part Three but the whole thing is interesting


Secrets of the Vatican


[edit on 13-12-2007 by zorgon]

Originally posted by zorgon
Might take more than a rifle to get us in there

There is an excellent book by Tom Robbin's called Another Roadside Attraction, it is a fictional account of a guy discovering Jesus' body in the vaults???

I think that the Nag Hammadi held some of the secret teachings, or rather those Gospels that were suppressed by the Church - The Gospels of Philip and Mary, and Judas'.

www.gnosis.org...

I wonder though if the Vatican would just destroy such inflammatory material if they got their hands on it. I don't think it would appear in the Vaults because the attempt would have actually been to wipe its existence from the planet. What the Vatican really worries about is what is out there that hasn't been discovered and how they must control such discoveries.

Take the rather convenient timing of the invasion on Iraq - a matter of days after archaeologists had announced the possible discovery of the Tomb of Gilgamesh...if I was interested in conspiracies I'd put two and two together there....there were reports early in the occupation of the US military doing everything possible to damage archaeological sites including Ishtar's Gate. I doubt very much that when archaeologists are allowed to return to Iraq that they will find nothing of any significance.

It is similarly why I would be interested in whether Ivan the Terrible's library was myth or reality - it may free of Vatican meddling and he was quite the collector. What the Nag Hammadi tells us about the early Christians, Ivan's library might tell us about the people's of Northern Europe who so long resisted the Latinisation that swept the rest of Europe.

Originally posted by zorgon

The 'documents' I was looking for are in a vault beneath the Vatican

Well no, to be honest they are not. They were moved to the new place before WWII. It is the spiritual duty of true Rosicrucians to know where the documents are and recover them should the need arise, or their safety be compromised. from cataclysmic events. There is only one Rosicrucian fraternity with lineage and records from the foundation of the country, that is fully compatible with the great work and teachings of freemasonry. It is not the AMORC, even though they may be good well meaning folks.

www.soul.org...

This is the only real "Rosicrucian" order, which still teaches the formula of the rosy-cross, to my knowledge.

Everyone who's face appears on American currency, without exception, was a member of this order.

So was Napoleon, Frederic of Prussia II, Henry Cornelius Agrippa, Eliphas Levi, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, and many others, members of this lodge.

As with the OTO (Christ Crucified between two thieves) from which flows blood and water which one must drink to gain immortality, the order aims at preparation and finally revealing the formula of the Crucifixion, the Rose and Cross, Witch and Broom, Point within the Circle, Generation squared and circumscribed, and so on.