I have Identified the Zionists People as the NWO

Originally posted by Simulacra
In the words of Martin Luther King:

"When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews, You are talking anti-Semitism."
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Enough said.

Wrong.

Zionists do not represent Jews as a whole. Using the broad term Anti-semitism as an excuse for anything bad Zionists or Jewish people have done is just plain smart on the jews parts.

A jew murders an arab. An Arab claims he saw the jew murder his arab friend, The Jew cries "Anti-Semitism!!!"

RIDICULOUS.

Anti-semitism itself is not directed towards only jews it goes for all semitic people. So in the case of Zionist regimes and the Illegal state of Israel, and Palestinian oppression the term is far from valid.

Jewish Politicians in the U.S.

Infiltrating the Politics
Cabinet members and senior administration officials

* Judah Benjamin, Confederate attorney general (1861), secretary of war (1861) & state (1862-65)
* Oscar Straus, secretary of commerce & labor (1906-09)
* Henry Morgenthau, Jr., secretary of the treasury (1934-45)
* Pierre Salinger, white house press secretary (1961-64) (Jewish father)
* James Schlesinger, CIA Director 1973 Secretary of Defense (1973-75) (Converted to Christianity)
* Henry Kissinger, national security advisor (1969-75), secretary of state (1973-77)
* W. Michael Blumenthal, secretary of the treasury (1977-79)
* Harold Brown, secretary of defense (1977-81)
* Neil Goldschmidt, secretary of transportation (1979-1981)
* Philip Morris Klutznick, secretary of commerce (1980-1981)
* Kenneth Duberstein, cheif of staff (1988-1989)
* Robert Reich, secretary of labor (1993-97)
* John M. Deutch, Belgian-born CIA director (1995-96)
* Robert Rubin, secretary of the treasury (1995-99)
* Madeleine Albright, secretary of state (1997-01) (raised Catholic by converted parents)
* Sandy Berger, national security advisor (1997-01)
* Larry Summers, secretary of the treasury (1999-01)
* Ari Fleischer, white house press secretary (2001-03)
* Michael Chertoff, homeland security secretary (2005-)
* Leon Fuerth, national security advisor to Vice President Al Gore (1993-2001)
* Edward Levi, attorney general (1975-1977)
* Joshua Bolten, White House Chief of Staff (2006-)
* Dan Glickman, Secretary of Agriculture (1995-2001)
* William Cohen, Secretary of Defense (1997-2001)
* Jacob Lew, Director of Office of Mannagement and Budget (1999-2001)

Current Jewish Senators
Carl Levin Democrat Michigan 1978
Arlen Specter Republican Pennsylvania 1980
Frank Lautenberg Democrat New Jersey 2002 Previously served 1982-2001
Herb Kohl Democrat Wisconsin 1988
Joseph Lieberman Independent Democrat Connecticut 1988 Formerly a Democrat, but lost 2006 party primary; currently serves as an Independent Democrat caucusing with Democrats.
Dianne Feinstein[1] Democrat California 1992
Barbara Boxer Democrat California 1992
Russ Feingold Democrat Wisconsin 1992
Ron Wyden Democrat Oregon 1996
Charles Schumer Democrat New York 1998
Norm Coleman Republican Minnesota 2002
Ben Cardin Democrat Maryland 2006
Bernie Sanders Independent Vermont 2006


[edit on 24-1-2007 by unconscious_war]

Originally posted by shojingod
Zionist propaganda is the biggest pile of bull# there is.

We forget one thing what is the motive to continue when the jews have a jewish state currently. No motive what so ever. The jewish state is not in the state of growth but one of preservation from the islamist factions that surround it. Think of it logically now. You are running a small country surround by people that want to kill you and your fellow country men, of course your going to pull for support from other countries and use any leverage at your disposal to get it so that you can get as much political and economic leverage on your enemy otherwise what's to stop them from just invading. Well pretty much nothing. You really do have to read your history and know what your talking about. The jews always lived in the holy land but increase in numbers during the times of anti-semitism. In 1929 when the land was under british rull the hebron massacre which was push by islamist preachers and so the real push for a separate state started then. I would want my own state too if the ones rulling wanted me dead. Why can the islamist leave the Israeleze alone. I am amazed how patient Israel is when it comes to the islamist or should I say Jordanians. There are muslim and jews that live side by side in Jerusalem with no problem. They chose to be separate from Israel because they want a secular state under islamic law. PS They do not want to live with the infidel.

Wrong.

The Jewish lobby/Pro Israeli orgs/Pro Israeli Media/Pro Israeli politics in this country should be taken extremely seriously. I'm telling you the muslim threat is very miniscule to the already flourishing Zionist/Pro-Israeli threat in this country.

The Jewish state of Israel is always growing, why wouldn't it be ? . Do you forget that the country is just shy of being 60 years old?? The Jews did not "Always live in the holy land" as you put it. They were in exile for 2000 years, migrating to the european lands and mixing with slavic blood and european blood. That is why there are so many white skinned light eyed jews today in Israel. 1948 it is the birth of Israel, early in 1900's Zionism had already taken its hold on Europe. Hitler realized the threat of Zionism and took action.

Simply put a jewish state should have never existed, Jews are nomadic and have been in exile for hundreds of years, yet the American Jews infiltrated the U.S. politics early on and by the end of WW2, Zionists had reached there goals. The growth of Zionism/Jewish foreign policy is spreading the hate all around the world and America is used as a pawn for Israel's ultimate goals of controlling foreign policies around the world.

Originally posted by unconscious_war

Originally posted by shojingod
Zionist propaganda is the biggest pile of bull# there is.

We forget one thing what is the motive to continue when the jews have a jewish state currently. No motive what so ever. The jewish state is not in the state of growth but one of preservation from the islamist factions that surround it. Think of it logically now. You are running a small country surround by people that want to kill you and your fellow country men, of course your going to pull for support from other countries and use any leverage at your disposal to get it so that you can get as much political and economic leverage on your enemy otherwise what's to stop them from just invading. Well pretty much nothing. You really do have to read your history and know what your talking about. The jews always lived in the holy land but increase in numbers during the times of anti-semitism. In 1929 when the land was under british rull the hebron massacre which was push by islamist preachers and so the real push for a separate state started then. I would want my own state too if the ones rulling wanted me dead. Why can the islamist leave the Israeleze alone. I am amazed how patient Israel is when it comes to the islamist or should I say Jordanians. There are muslim and jews that live side by side in Jerusalem with no problem. They chose to be separate from Israel because they want a secular state under islamic law. PS They do not want to live with the infidel.

Wrong.

The Jewish lobby/Pro Israeli orgs/Pro Israeli Media/Pro Israeli politics in this country should be taken extremely seriously. I'm telling you the muslim threat is very miniscule to the already flourishing Zionist/Pro-Israeli threat in this country.

The Jewish state of Israel is always growing, why wouldn't it be ? . Do you forget that the country is just shy of being 60 years old?? The Jews did not "Always live in the holy land" as you put it. They were in exile for 2000 years, migrating to the european lands and mixing with slavic blood and european blood. That is why there are so many white skinned light eyed jews today in Israel. 1948 it is the birth of Israel, early in 1900's Zionism had already taken its hold on Europe. Hitler realized the threat of Zionism and took action.

Simply put a jewish state should have never existed, Jews are nomadic and have been in exile for hundreds of years, yet the American Jews infiltrated the U.S. politics early on and by the end of WW2, Zionists had reached there goals. The growth of Zionism/Jewish foreign policy is spreading the hate all around the world and America is used as a pawn for Israel's ultimate goals of controlling foreign policies around the world.

Oh so Hitler was merely justified in 'taking action' against the Zionist threat. These actions included the systematic murder of millions of innocent jews. How on earth the belief that jews should have a state in their holyland was a threat to Germany, I don't know. Please explain

Originally posted by unconscious_war

Originally posted by Simulacra
In the words of Martin Luther King:

"When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews, You are talking anti-Semitism."
en.wikiquote.org...

Enough said.

Wrong.

Zionists do not represent Jews as a whole.

THe issue is debatable, but in general, 'zionist' has become code word for 'evil jews'. Its really up to the context in which its being discussed, so you are right, it can't strictly be taken to reference jews, indeed, there are non jews who are zionists (iow, who support the existence of a jewish state or something like it), and there are jews who are anti-israel, but still pro-zionism, like many amoung the hasidim.

Jewish Politicians in the U.S.

It is completely irrelevant is a person is a jew or not and we shouldn't be saying that because there are jewish people who've been elected to high office in the US that the government is therefore 'infiltrated' by 'the jews'.

The Jews did not "Always live in the holy land" as you put it. They were in exile for 2000 years,

This is really irrelvant, from either position. There've allways been jews in that territory, since early antiquity. But no matter what, the jews were given that land, which was controlled by the British and approved by the UN, so its there now. The prior existence of a jewish state there, in the distant past, was part of the rationale for selecting it as the location for a modern jewish state. That state's already been created, so any flaws in the logic of having chosen it originally are really moot at this point.

Hitler realized the threat of Zionism and took actionp

Hitler was a douchbag who murder millions of germans, merely because they were jews. Hitler didn't realize any actual threat, he hyped up a non-existant threat, the Jews were not a threat to Germany.

It come back to what is a zionist.
Now if zionist is a jewish person that wants the state of Israel then it is already done. The conclusion is already achieved now what. It's seems to me it's not Israel that is doing all the spin but the islamist now. They say one thing to the European and US press then say something completely different in the muslim press.

Here is the situation. Zionist there are good and there are bad. They have done good as well as bad. They are human in a very tuff area where everybody that is muslim and is endoctrinated by the local or foreign muslim clerics want them dead. Muslims around them have attacked them with suicide attacks and massacre event before the creation of the Jewish state. It would be a miracle if there were no sour apples in the bush. They are doing in some cases the best they can to balance the jews which are mad against the muslims for anti-semetic action and the jews which are reformist which want peace with the muslim. In Israel there this balance between two extremes inside a democratic government.

The problem lies here when it comes to the Palestinians or should I say Jordanians that want to live in Israeli territory. THey been pretty much programmed by the surrounding muslims state that Israel is the cause of there problems even do the surrounding state were totally unwilling to help them in the beginning. I guess when you don't want to be blame, blame someone else especially someone that is vilified in your religion. This way you can twist it to manipulate the religious to follow your pollitical agenda. Now lets assume for some reason that the democratic state of Israel disappeared do you trully believe that territory will become the independent state of palestine. Highly unlikely. Since most of the terror groups are financed by the surrounding states. What is more likely to happen is that Syria and Jordan would take over the territory. Why do you think Syria is always on Beiruts backside. The signs are there you just gotta read it. That territory will be split between Syria, Jordan and Egypt(maybe). Palestine for palestinians is just spin by the surrounding countries to make the palestinians believe that if they take over they will have there own territory. Hezbollah and the terror group sooner or later will have to do a payback. As much as can give money on ideology when you are giving millions if not billions to these group there is got to be a payback at the end.

Originally posted by unconscious_war

Originally posted by Simulacra
In the words of Martin Luther King:

"When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews, You are talking anti-Semitism."
en.wikiquote.org...

Enough said.

Wrong.

Zionists do not represent Jews as a whole. Using the broad term Anti-semitism as an excuse for anything bad Zionists or Jewish people have done is just plain smart on the jews parts.

A jew murders an arab. An Arab claims he saw the jew murder his arab friend, The Jew cries "Anti-Semitism!!!"

RIDICULOUS.

[edit on 24-1-2007 by unconscious_war]

i would say the word "anit-semite" was constructed very cleverly by prominent zionist's not "not necessarily to protect jews".

Zionists do not represent Jews as a whole. Using the broad term Anti-semitism as an excuse for anything bad Zionists have done is just plain smart on the Prominent Zionists part for developing, while often times the sheeple just repeat anything that has become popular logic and the sentiment develops and unquestionably is passed down in zionist media outlets and into schools, and then begins to reflect a perceived truth. Thus many zionists today are not evil or lacking in moral character anymore than the average "christian". It is the *First prominent zionist's, that were often Khazar's, the Khazar's are the people that adopted "judaism" as a political motive over a thousand years ago from eastern Europe and Russia as a means to control people. The khazar's have infiltrated Judaism the most however they have also corrupted Chrisianity and Islam and perverted it's (message or perceived message) even more so (beginning hundreds upon hundreds of years ago) much more so, than the original dogmatic beleifs and fear mongering associated w/ religion would do.

Prominent Zionists also initially began sticking up for things that they perceive as anti-jewish to make it appear the two are the same, to further clould the reality and to in effect, provide a blanket of protection over their own heads , because based on the above logic, an attack on Zionism is now an attack on "jews" as well as being 'anti-simetic. clever clever

and now even raising the issue of criticizing zionism, is "anti semetic" and most jewish people don't get that this group of original prominent zionists propogated this thru early misinformation (zionist propoganda) seen as "education" in their lives to associate Zionists as the good guys and protectors in creating a jewish state as well as inseperable with judaism.

don't take my opinion for it, have the will to take a real look for yourself, bewere the propoganda and ignorance is everywhere.

follow this rabbit hole to the bottom i understand i could be off but i really "feel" like this is true to a large extent

[edit on 21-2-2008 by cpdaman]

so i should have prefaced my prior post with i disagree with the OP's title because it leads one to beleive many of today's everday zionists are the NWO which is absolutely absurd, but i stand behind the points i made in the last post.