I’m coming clean on Extraterrestrials

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I didn't even realise it until you mentioned it (and then I checked). Are they supposed to do that without saying anything?

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That is NOT the same as presenting your life experience or opinions/beliefs on the subject as just that, your opinions, beliefs and experiences and I will not tolerate ANYONE getting rude or acting uncivil toward those who would share these things with our community.

Well, I consider the action of moving this thread to skunk works (without notice) both "rude and uncivil", as Sleeper is only sharing his experience with the community. This action reeks of hypocrisy.

Sleeper, do you think the Story of the Star Wars Universe is kind of like the story of Atlantis, except there are no continents disappearing. What I mean by this is:

Of course in Atlantis there were great spiritual beings/humans there, and was a great spiritual place for a long time. However, something evil maybe demons(?) didn't like it, and destroyed them.

That is sort of like Star Wars. They had a peaceful universe full of these Spiritual Jedi's, and the Empire Came along and destroyed most of them.

Also, is prison like a place for humans/souls here on earth to learn if they do something bad, or punishment for souls, to try and make them do better before they go to the after human life?

Has Milton ever been to prison in a human life form? If so why? And did he drop the soap a few times?

Thank you for your reply sleeper, although I'm not quite sure what to make of it.....at first you addressed this 'Milton' individual as a “figment of (your) imagination” or your “alter ego” however, you now refer to ‘him’ as “more real then both you and me and the rest of the human race.” Consequently you may understand my dilemma understanding your actual view on this ‘Milton’ person as to understand whether ‘he’ is real or not. If you could be so kind to clear this up for me...thank you again, always a pleasure……..

johnlear

Also, I saw sleeper and Milton shoot through my ceiling once a few months ago. Do you think this might have been a holograph?

No, although I do believe it may very well be your old age getting the better of you…..

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Gloves above the waste line please!


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Kind of spinning off of jca2005's post in a lose way:

All of history - fact or fiction - in all its legends, myths, stories - has always depicted good and evil, the white team and the dark team, duality - as a process for humanity to break through the illusions of life.

from an organic point of view, maybe the gods create the seed in its shell (humanity), put it in the ground (darkness), then fertilize it (illusion) until sun, water, air (elemnts of spirituality) gradually draw it out of its shell (ego) into the light of day (illumination).

just a thought.

Double-damn it.............



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Sleeper, what if our world was like the matrix? I could be in a virtual reality like thing right now/or computer program and not know it, but the guys in the matrix do. Maybe that's what's going on with us right now, and maybe one day we to would be able to know.

Originally posted by sleeper
Hi Purdue
They may not believe but they would be offended

Sleeper,

I'm wondering what could possibly be so offensive to the American people??? Does it have something to do with Religion?? I guess one reason that we could be offended is that they have a certain agenda, "they" being those in charge, and they consider us expendable!! Now that would be very offensive. Or perhaps they think we are so gullible that we'll go for anything, which is very likely....Am I getting close???? I know you can't say much on the subject so I'm just coming up with some ideas here in response to what you said.
Any chance of letting us in on this bit of information with regards to Iraq any time soon?? Maybe in a blog or book??

The ETs don’t take kindly at being called “debris”

but they are use to that kind of jargon, swamp gas, test dummies, weather balloons, Venus, etc---it’s simply amazing what people will believe when it comes from an official source.

What are the ETs doing up there? Milton's been writing it all down but his hand writing is worse than that of a doctor writing prescriptions and I can hardly make it out, so it will be some time before I get it sorted out.

Very good question, what are they doing up there?? Based on what you've stated in this thread, I think I have some idea but I'm sure some are here for a little vacation or site seeing, who knows. I think it's great that they have been visiting and interacting with us for so long, glad to know we're not alone out here.
I personally feel it's very insulting that NASA thinks that we don't know what we're seeing in those STS mission videos!! It's very obvious that whatever is flying around is not some ridiculous reflection from something else but they will never tell us anyway. Thanks for all your responses.


Purduegrad05

Originally posted by chutso_ha

Well, I consider the action of moving this thread to skunk works (without notice) both "rude and uncivil", as Sleeper is only sharing his experience with the community. This action reeks of hypocrisy.

Sleeper is going to take some well-deserved time off. Hopefully the thread will be back out of the skunk works if and when he ever returns.

Can I ask how it takes 332 pages to make up someones mind to move this to skunk works?



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In 332 pages thats the best question I have heard yet.

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Thanks for the update. Will you keep us updated so we aren't just left hanging? As you can tell, Sleeper would be greatly missed, for a lot of reasons. If Sleeper decides not to come back, I hope he'll at least post a final message to all those who followed this thread (many of which don't post, but read it regularly). Do you know if he's planning or would consider his own forum or blog?

Thanks again...

Chutso

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Bummer, but good for sleeper. He deserves a break.

I'm grateful for all he has relayed here and I'll be working with it for at least a couple of years, if not for the rest of my days. Wonderful no-holds-barred stuff. I'm a changed man.

I thought I remember sleeper saying he would be happy if his thread did move to skunk works.

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Hey thanks for the update Mr. Lear.

Nice of you to tell us what's going on.

Your a cool dude.......

I have read through probably all of these pages, minus one or two. However, he has opened up a new consciousness for, or a new way of thinking, like an enlightenment about life. I do thank you Sleeper.

Sleeper's stated on more than one occasion that he'd stop posting here if his thread was moved to Skunkworks. He said that the topic was E.T based and therefore belonged in the Alien/U.F.O section.

Although Sleeper's e.t story is (to me) unbelievable he does pass on a lot of wisdom in matters of the heart and soul, due to that alone I'm not sure the thread warrants a place here in the Skunkworks next to threads with names like ''Lizard Men Ate My Cat And Stole My Stash'' e.t.c. I hope a compromise can be made between Sleeper and the management. Speaking of management, I acknowledge that in this situation you are damned if you do and damned if you don't, your roles are sometimes unenviable.

Once upon a time Dave Icke was going to get his own sub forum but he never showed up. But if he had I bet the “all reptilian threads belong in skunk works attitude” would have never materialized.

Personally I think Sleeper should get his own slot right next to John. Move all his threads in there and reopen the ones that were closed.
All of the members that are calling for Sleeper to be removed from the UFO/Aliens forum are happy, well maybe happy in a relative sense. Sleeper gets a nice warm spot to call home, and ATS doesn’t lose members and traffic.

I am 87.32% sure that we will never see Sleeper again if this thread stays here.

Sleeper, after all your philosophical lessons you have given on here and in accordance with them, I sincerely hope you are not going to be bothered by the title of the forum this thread is put in.

I suppose we all have a little pride though. If and when you come back I have some more science questions for you.

On Topic Please...

The topic isn't sleeper being gone or why this was moved to SW.

the discussion is E.T.'s.

Thanks