I’m coming clean on Extraterrestrials

Hello Sleeper !!!!!!!!

Is the Earth the lowest level Planet in this Solar System? If not which one is?

Which is the highest level Planet in this Solar System?

(Not including the Earth) If you were to give an award to a Planet / Moon in this Solar System with the most spectacular scenery, which one would it be?

(Not including the Earth) If you were to give an award to a Planet / Moon in this Solar System for the friendliest people, which one would it be?

Are there advanced ET's that Milton is not able to see or meet? Sort of like in the way we are not easily able to see or meet him.

Do ET's ever have pets in the same way that we have a pet dog, cat or bird for example?

Does Milton have a favourite Earth animal? Not including humans....lol

Originally posted by zenfish
How can you tell if the rock is out there in the world, or in the head behind the eyes and it only looks like it's out there? Cause I tell ya, I'm dealing with the frickin' rock of Gibraltar with my work situation, which is also a family situation. A coffee break would suit me just fine.

I can’t get into personal matters because we all deal with them in our own way. But we have to eat what’s on our plate or dump it and fill the plate with something else.

Is the operation going to fold if you leave? Do people depend on you? If this is destroying you will it make things better for them? For you?

How do we know if we are here to break rocks? If we can’t make peace with ourselves or those in our lives, then we will be breaking rocks until we do.

Originally posted by LostInThought
Well the best thing about nirvana is its not exclusive to the coffee breakers. Like you said, the universe has something for everyone. Even those crazy do gooders-

So true----

But I have a story about crazy do gooders. Which I’m not against btw but things are not so black and white when attempting to do good as most of us wish they were

I once belong to a Christian type church while my children were growing up, and the church and other congregations around the country were told about a kidnapping of two or three Christians in some African country. So they were asking for donation to get the money to pay the ransom for the release of these Christians. It worked, and the Christians were released, but only a week went by and then more Christians were kidnapped, more money was asked for their release.---do you see where I’m going with this?

A small problem turned into a huge problem because the kidnappers found a way to make lots of money, all they needed to do was kidnap Christians. This ended up going on for several years before the Christians figured out that they were the cause of the misery.

An old proverb states it very well, “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”.

When I was a builder I helped build free house with habitat for humanity, made me feel all good inside---for the most part I still believe the program is a good program and helps thousands of people get into homes that they otherwise could never afford.

But I quit doing it when a neighborhood we built some of those houses in became infected with a couple of undesirables, which did serious damage to the whole neighborhood.

So doing good doesn’t always translate to good, hence the world around us that seems to be coming apart at the seams is due to a large part by meddling do-gooders

Some of the top dog do-gooders from the last century are Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler; they promised their people utopia and delivered them to hell instead. Today we have a bunch more and the leader of the pack in American’s backyard is Hugo Chaves

Originally posted by hihorizon
Sleeper,

To be honest with you, I like your version more than all these other Contactee's. Why? Because your story is enlightening, meaningful and understanding at the end of the tunnel for those who get their act together in this life.

However, I have another side that sympathizes with other contactees point of view because I have experienced the ugly sinister side of the ET agenda also along with the good. I know for a fact they influence mankind for some of their agendas via dreams, etc.

They do have an agenda, and whatever we wish for they will do their best to make it happen. And if our heart is not true blue, neither will be the results of our desires

There is a reason for all the religions, because they want control. In this process there are some real rouge ET's doing not so good things. The contactees who know about the secret ET agreement with the government which sold us out, the reptilians and their hidden agenda, and many hidden other agenda's here on this planet regarding rouge Et's have a good case. Look at our society. Telling us that is or own doing is not enough because it's not.

Many people want to be controlled, they may not admit it but they believe they will be taken care of if someone or some institution is controlling their lives. Hence religious popularity.

Rouge ETs have been summoned and they do in fact provide a service, hidden agenda if you wish.

I know your philosophy is that we are born on this rock do our time and leave "We are not here to change the world, we are here so that the world can change us". But how did this rock become like this? Because of good ET's, I don't think so. It's hard to really dig in if we don't understand how we got hear as a race and what is behind what we were born into. We can't go around trusting every ET out there, do you think that's wise? If there are millions of ET's civilizations why should we trust ET's based on the past deceptions? This not about your claim but in general.

The world got this way because it’s filled with inmates from other places and planets. And those inmates have hate in their hearts, envy in their souls, and greed in their ego. All wrapped up in bad attitude for their fellow inmates

I know there are the enlighten ET's who want us to succeed and the bad who want us to serve their selfish purpose for some galactic need, etc. We are dragged in the middle and because of this we are the most inapt spiritual race in the galaxy.

We create gods with our human image---vengeful gods, hateful goods, but they can be good too, if we treat them right.

Well we are doing the same thing with ETs.

I want to ask why these not so good ET's have managed not to know who you are and not harass you? I mean, they pick up on all the frequencies out there and you don't have to be a bad soul for them to hone in on. If your making a difference out there that conflicts with their agenda they know who you are. Have you even wondered that perhaps Milton could be deluding you into thinking they are good but yet have another hidden agenda? Maybe a secret pet project? I mean, heck name one thing in this life that is real?

Milton has deluded me into thinking that we take life too seriously and that we should stop and smell the roses now and then, and that I should treat everyone fairly.

Perhaps we should all be so deluded---

They have seemed to have the illusionary and deceptive thing down to a science, heck they created us right? Have you ever thought you could be another one of their science projects because of this art of deception? Using you to see if they can influence more people in another direction to clean up there image or another disinformation program? You seem like a smart guy that is why I ask for your honest assestment.

Fear is a much better way to control people, and they have the upper hand big time, they can enslave this whole planet without firing a single shot, why waste their time playing a shell game?

Originally posted by GreenRobot
Hi Sleeper,

Glad to see your still going strong and keeping on point. Your comments are still appreciate.

What do you make of the coming revolution spoke of on another thread. Very interesting information if true. Sort of a cellphone tower, control net that is going to be battled with incarnated alien souls via physic powers.....is this stuff really going on? What strikes me is the number of people that come forward with similar feelings.

Simple paranoia

Why do different contactees seem to have different messages?

Because we all have different souls and therefore see only from those vantage points.

Does Milton typically give you information that is more "inside" than some aliens contactees seem to know? Some seem to know part of the puzzle, but seldom do any of these pieces fit with other contactees or alien agendas. Milton seems to share information with you/us that is of a bigger view than most. Like he comes from a higher level with a better view of the big picture.

Tricky question and if I answer it I will look like a snob, so people can make their own decisions on whether I’m full of it or not.

Is Milton more advanced than most of the aliens that come to Earth to visit? Or is he a common example of what's out there?

He has no equal----he made me say that---

Is Venus as beautiful as mentioned in the other thread on revolution? Does NASA really feed us BS on what is really seen by the Venusian probes? I mean by filling the scientific community up with false data, false images and outright lies?

All planets are way cool, or way hot, but I’m not onboard with some of the views that are out there and since few humans will ever know there is no point in ruffling feathers.

Does Milton really eat food and appreciate good cooking? I can set him up with any cuisine he might want, as long as I can buy ingredients and it's not something weird from another planet. Tell him I can plan any specialty he likes. I just need a day or so to plan, so have him RSVP...

I don’t know if he really eats food or only putting on an act for me, heck I look at a candy bar and gain ten pounds, so it’s a mystery, that’s why I walk a lot, and no I don’t eat candy bars.

Originally posted by meller
Sleeper,
I have a friend who has had many struggles in her life. Probably starting with being continually abused physically as a child by a very bad babysitter, and continueing on to joining a satanic cult at age 12.

She currently suffers from self-injury, and has a real problem trying to control herself. I think that as a child, she opened herself up to something evil and the invitation was not left unheeded. Often times before cutting she breaks into some sort of chant which seems to take control of her.

While I realize that a great deal of the burden lies in one's own decisions in the now, what can people who are stuck in situations like that do? Perhaps she screwed up in the past, but how can she possibly make amends for what she did, and move on?

Her soul is riddled with hate and she needs to let go of the hate by forgiving everyone including herself. The worst thing humans can do is die while clutching on to hate.

All who have harmed her will pay in due time, therefore hating them will do them nothing. Hate is a boomerang that chops off the head of those who throw it or use it.

If she feels guilt and hates herself because of the guilt of past things, she needs to let that go and forgive herself. Hate in any form is pure evil, and no one has to hold on to evil.

Originally posted by SerpentPath

I'm sorry but you all disgust me.

Thanks for the post SerpentPath, I assume from your name that you are a Reptilian? Many of my friends are reptilians and they don't feel the same way as you.

Flying Saucers are well documented in Google Videos, they have old footage with the men that designed them talking about them.

Yes, particularly the ones manufactured in Germany during World War II.
Then there was the Avro and a couple of others. These are the ones made on earth. However there are flying saucers that are made in outer space and they are much different. There are no videos on Google with men that designed them talking about them because actually some are not men.

Aliens DO NOT exist.

I disagree. I live in Las Vegas and there are so many aliens I can't get a parking space at El Pollo Loco. When I go to the market (at Albertsons) every alien has a wife and 8 children who are also aliens. All the Aliens in Las Vegas drive brand new SUV's while I drive a 99 Dodge pickup that has 200,000 miles on it.

The government is pulling a psyop on the people, a psychological operation!

I agree. This has been happening since Adam and Eve formed their own coalition. The only difference between the Adam and Eve coalition government and the U.S. Government is that the U.S. Government has PsyOp technology they learned from Aliens. But not the Aliens parked in front of the Department of Human Resources. The other Aliens.

Thanks for the post. Your input is greatly appreciated.

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All I can say is there is something special about or planet, and they are trying to harness our spirituality, emotions, because they can use this energy to fix them or consume them some how. Without us their species must move on or perhaps can't even survive.

They interfere with our auras, chakras and astral planes etc, of what we can really do. Not talking about the Benevolent (ET's). We really have the capacity to do great things for us and our planet. The bad one's are trying to harness our energies and use us to do it. It is about our vibration and energy. They are like parasites and won't let go. Our world is on some kind of lock down because of it. But they are going to lose control here shortly because of the help and this awakening.

The malevolent ET's managed to break the Universal Law and controlled us through manipulation since day one. Yet, they are allowed only to go so far then the rest is up to us. So we are still protected by the higher ups in that since but for the week minded, man they have a hard battle. This all is going on around us. There are many here trying to free us, much debate in the universe on how to handle this. That is why Sleeper doesn't go into the politics IMHO.

How we got hear and how this control happened I'm not sure yet. There are many theory's out there of contactee's who claim to know. But these are generalizations based on my own experiences coupled with others who are more specific on their agenda. But all the contactee's that I have researched know there was an arrangement with the Government, which locked us in to not so good arrangement in exchange for technology. Read some of John Lears stuff.

That will shed light on that and it gets worse from there because now everything is a secret and the government can't come clean because of all the lies and cover ups in the past, etc. They are in a pickle over all this too because they want the technology for there own self purpose not the people's. It goes on and on....

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Sleeper,

Thanks for you input. I agree with you and your comments cause I feel the same way. I believe this planet has those souls on it I agree but I guess my crutch is how this planet was quarantined a prison planet in the first place. That is why I believe there are good and bad ET's influencing us. Based on all the other contactee's out there. Again, I do like your version and would sure like to be a part of that if I had not some of my own experiences which I certainly didn't want or call on. But perhaps we are all here for different things I guess but for the common good.

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Sleeper,

So the word from Milton is we are what we think? I have always been a positive thinker, I'm just trying to figure out the puzzle and don't want to get duped as you know. But you are the only Conactee with this "you are what you think" point of view. So these other Contactee's are creating their own reality and are being lied to by other ET's who take them on space ships too? Help me to fiquire this out please.

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I see your point and it has some truth to it. Many people make attempts at putting there versions of good in the world, but they only end up adding to the misery.

The problem is most people have forgotten what real good heartedness is. A lot of people claim that there putting good in the world and they put up fake forefronts to gain peoples trust, but underneath it all there just trying to shape the world in there own selfish views. People like Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin are perfect examples of that.

Pure good heartedness is about being selfless and having a true desire of helping other people more than yourself. Its about having a desire to see people happy and smiling. Its about wanting to live in harmony and peace with your fellow man. You know, the usual hippy stuff-

Somewhere along the lines people have stoped trying to do this and society is starting to go down the drain because the average person would rather be selfish than selfless.

Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by zenfish


I can’t get into personal matters because we all deal with them in our own way. But we have to eat what’s on our plate or dump it and fill the plate with something else.

Yeah, I only mentioned family hoping that you might comment on how family patterns might be more difficult to deal with. We hurt the ones we love kinda thing, but maybe not. Maybe every situation is what it is and it doesn't matter who is involved.

How do we know if we are here to break rocks? If we can’t make peace with ourselves or those in our lives, then we will be breaking rocks until we do.

I can make peace. It just seems that others don't feel I deserve to have peace, to smell the roses and have a coffee break now and then. They try to play head games and lay trips on me. Hence, a new plate is in order.

Thanks for going on and on about hate. It's good to see that on a daily basis until I really get it down pat.

Is ET trying to get us to see that indulging in, feeling, or thinking anything hateful is always going down the wrong road? Even in extreme cases like murder, rape and torture? And all things that happen to us which give rise to hate in any degree is for the purpose of rising above hate?

Sleeper

You seem to have a birds eye view on all of the things that are going on in the world, wether they be human or ET related. Since Milton is giving you your info, is his race more advance than the other ETs that are invloved with Earth?

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HI Sleeper

my original question:
Is it fair to say that earth is what we make it in the consensus reality

your answer:
If that was true why haven’t we made it a better place? Everyone seems to want to do just that but no one is able too.


my follow-up: what are you saying? that if we all have unique programs and different sets of rules and protocols on different levels, that consensus reality is effectively an illusion?

Also, on my question for rH neg blood. you only said that it is made by ET but did not provide information on why it is being researched right now intensively. there are some populations that are extremely old on this planet that have higher percentages of rH neg blood, like the basque and others. do you know anything about this, OR just don't want to divulge for some reason?

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I know a bit about the road to hell is paved with good intentions . This is about the process of learning wisdom. it seems to me that many "try" to do good to - either relieve their own conscience from guilt (or projected suffering) or to look good before others - rather than having a pure intention to relieve the suffering of others. The intention drives the results. When one's intentions are pure, then one will know which tools to give to aid the suffering, and it is often only in the form of seeds. Why? Because people often are not ready to change their reality of suffering. It's that "old habits die hard thing", even if they don't realize it. But if the seeds are planted, they will grow into useful tools if and when the person truly chooses to change their reality.

just my two cents worth after having paved a few of those stones of

good intentions

myself...



[edit on 6-11-2007 by chutso_ha]

Sleeper,
What do you think of Neale Donald Walsch and his "Conversations with God" three books? If you have not heard of him, please ask Milton.

Thanks

Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by JSR

i thought nano tech. is man made?
am i wrong?

Nano is ET technology. Humans went from horse draw carriages at the turn of the twenty century to cars and air travel within that same decade. While humans took bows and accepted awards for their ingenuity ETs were in the backroom doing most of the work and getting none of the credit. Nothing has changed.

Hi. I'm an alien abductee. Please go away. You make me and others who really do want to understand this look like idiots. You can argue all you want that you're telling the truth but you're not. You know this. Go away.

Thanks!

Hi Sleeper,

You mentioned one time that you got to speak to your father after he passed. I dont want personal detials, just wondering if you were aloud to see him or just speak with him and was it in this dimension or were you taken to were he was. Does he know its you talking to him? Did Milton facilitate all this....Was he your Dr. Phil?

Also,
Since all of us and all the diffenent races here on earth are from different planets, dimensions, etc, were we all modified to to have similar traits....such as eating, going to the bathroom, reporduction so we were all the same on that level? Since some beings dont have those same functions on other worlds, I was curious. Also did the ETs set a limit as to how many races they want on this planet at one time? Or did we all get here at different times under different circumstances?

Thanks for your tireless fingers!

Congratulations Sleeper! You have a real X-file on Earthfiles. You're ready for the big time.

Originally posted by hihorizon
Sleeper,
So the word from Milton is we are what we think? I have always been a positive thinker, I'm just trying to figure out the puzzle and don't want to get duped as you know. But you are the only Conactee with this "you are what you think" point of view. So these other Contactee's are creating their own reality and are being lied to by other ET's who take them on space ships too? Help me to fiquire this out please.

We are not what we think, definitely not