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U.S. Colonies on Moon,Mars,Venus+Aliens+911,Divided by NWO=Behold A Pale Horse Video by Bill Cooper

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posted on Jan, 18 2007 @ 04:52 PM
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Have you watched the video in the original post? It's 4hrs. long, and has a lot of great information... of which the Kennedy Assassination is closely associated with the entire post.

Besides that's, I'm guessing it's a "drive it home" issue here.

video.google.com...

Besides, Kennedy was the only president to announce his plans to uncover the truths about all the information that is contained here on ATS....

government plots, NWO, the Illuminati, ufo's, the federal reserve... the list goes on and on. It's all intertwined.

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posted on Jan, 18 2007 @ 06:23 PM
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I'm not igoring you I was just waiting for your rebuttal regarding posted issues and videos, JFK seemed to be a good place to start then we could move forward, in other words I'm asking for is: What everyone thinks about these videos, feel free to watch any one of them and talk about anything you wish.
And I also believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but I would like to know what information you base your opinions on ,
so I may review your points.



posted on Jan, 18 2007 @ 07:50 PM
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First.. my opinions are based on logic and the history I have studied.

JFK was assassinated by the government.

Does that surprise you? Do you think we are something pure and special and will not succumb the the very same things that our ancestors fell to?

Please.

Political wars exist in all governments.. why are you surprised? .. Is it because people dont come out and give you a blow by blow play?

If you read the reports its painfully obvious the CIA was behind the hit.. the fact that the President then botched the investigation of his one time friend should be evidence enough.

How was he killed? You cannot tell from the videos, though it would not be impossible for the driver to shoot him as well.. hell.. would the secret service arrest him? noo.. Logic. It has nothing to do with deep seeded secerets. If any time was a time to take over America it was the 60's.. we are no where near the political unrest as we where then..

So again I ask as I did on the last page...

Why?

Who?

When?

Why wait?

By what means and who will carry it out?

Where is the evidence of something out of the ordinary?



posted on Jan, 18 2007 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
First.. my opinions are based on logic and the history I have studied.

JFK was assassinated by the government.

Does that surprise you? Do you think we are something pure and special and will not succumb the the very same things that our ancestors fell to?

Please.

Political wars exist in all governments.. why are you surprised? .. Is it because people dont come out and give you a blow by blow play?

If you read the reports its painfully obvious the CIA was behind the hit.. the fact that the President then botched the investigation of his one time friend should be evidence enough.

How was he killed? You cannot tell from the videos, though it would not be impossible for the driver to shoot him as well.. hell.. would the secret service arrest him? noo.. Logic. It has nothing to do with deep seeded secerets. If any time was a time to take over America it was the 60's.. we are no where near the political unrest as we where then..

So again I ask as I did on the last page...

Why?

Who?

When?

Why wait?

By what means and who will carry it out?

Where is the evidence of something out of the ordinary?


Who's government? Not the one who elected JFK, who are the people of the USA. these were criminal elements within the government.
so therefore the government was taken over by these criminal elements, who are basically Nazi's.

Why = Because they want to continue Hitler's agenda.

Who = Not the American people, but the Nazi's who are infact controlled by people like David Rockefeller, The CFR,ect... and the Global elite who are against the way things are in the USA, and race is a big factor.

When: We can go back as far as the Lincoln Assassination, these Southern Confederate people are the exact same ones who are in power now.

Why wait : Because these are Revelations that are just now being revealed to a blindly controlled population, The controlled demo's of the twin towers are the proof needed to shine a light on the real agenda of these Nazi's, america is now just starting to wake and open their eyes to the truth, but not everyone has awaken, the process was slow at the beginning but is now traveling faster and faster everyday.

By what means will it be carried out? you ask? well look at everything that is starting now meaning the Iraq war, we will soon be at war with Iran and when this happens, things will change fast here in the USA, so we just have to watch and wait, and listen to the people who are on the front lines of this battle.

Can you imagine what the world would look like if the south won the war? Well the people who are in power now can and that is exactly what they want to do, turn back the clock and reverse the outcome of the civil war, they now just consisder everyone in America who do not side with them as their enemies and slaves to be recaptured by the masters and put back on the plantation, they probably enjoy just killing people it's like a sport to them, you see.

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posted on Jan, 18 2007 @ 09:44 PM
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Which our efforts to expose the people are: this is what lays in the balance, this is what it is all about bottom line, we are now a target.

Consider this :


Originally posted by BlackOps719
As many of you are aware there have been various news articles and internet web postings over the last two years devoted to the very real possibility that Al Quaida operatives have managed to purchase suitcase nukes from post cold war Soviet organizations and Chechen terror allies. According to George Tenet, former director of the C.I.A., sources have confirmed that at least two such devices have already reached Al Quaida operatives somewhere inside of the main land United States since 9/11.




www.worldnetdaily.com...



But the most disturbing news is that high level U.S. officials now believe at least some of those weapons have been smuggled into the U.S. for use in the near future in major cities as part of this "American Hiroshima" plan, according to an upcoming book, "The Al Qaeda Connection: International Terrorism, Organized Crime and the Coming Apocalypse," by Paul L. Williams, a former FBI consultant.


The weaponry as well as the Al Quaida operatives were smuggled across the southern Mexican border by members of the MS-13 street gang who are responsible for heavy drug and illegal alien trafficking through the Texas and Arizona borders.

This particular article goes into detail more about the actual devices that are to be used in the "American Hiroshima"




"Each suitcase weighed between 50 and 80 kilograms (approximately 110 to 176 pounds) and contained enough fissionable plutonium and uranium to produce an explosive yield in excess of two kilotons," wrote Williams. "One suitcase bore the serial number 9999 and the Russian manufacturing date of 1988. The design of the weapons, Tenet told the president, is simple. The plutonium and uranium are kept in separate compartments that are linked to a triggering mechanism that can be activated by a clock or a call from the cell phone."


To me this scenario is not only possible, but to a very high degree quite likely. There have even been reports of American Muslims migrating away from the major cities into more rural and suburban areas in large numbers over the last several months. Not to say that is a clear sign that something is about to go down, but strange enough for concern.

My question is if this information has been known since 2005, what has our government done in order to prevent this from coming to fruition? The Canadian and Mexican borders definately haven't been properly secured or tightened. There seems to be no alarm within our government organizations in any noticeable way. And even though the U.S. government has known about this for quite some time, is there anything that CAN be done at this stage? Does the Bush administration secretly want a nuclear attack to take place inside of America so that they can officially declare martial law and take away the last remaining rights of it's citizens?

Let's just say in a hypothetical situation that a suitcase nuke were detonated in a major city like New York, what would the results be and what would it mean for the rest of us? Imagine the carnage and the death count, it would make hurricane Katrina seem like a walk in the park by comparison, and FEMA and the U.S. gov couldn't even handle a disaster on that scale properly. I think everyone would agree that Katrina was borched from top to bottom by every state and federal entity involved. New York would be a waste land, Wall street and our financial capital would be in complete ruin which would effectively shut down the entire country financially. This isn't even considering what would be going on in the rest of the country, which would include wide scale panic, disorder, looting, and just overall mayhem

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posted on Jan, 18 2007 @ 10:44 PM
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Ok...

I will respond to the nukes first since it is the last thing posted:

Is that a possible and likely scenario? Yes, it is. The Soviet Union has lost quite a few nukes.. some very small or "suitcase nukes" and could have been sold by rouge generals who where in command of them. They could have been smuggled through Europe, most likely through Italy (Southern Italy) and straight to Mexico then through the border with the help of smugglers. It is supected that Osama could have them in 7 different US cities (according to his biographer who is a reliable source). Is it fact? No. Nuclear weapons require massive amounts of attention, they give off a constant temperature of 100+ degrees, they deteriate and have never been tested. Even if he did have suit case nukes they could very well by now be nothing more then a dity dud. The other aspect would be a suitcase nuke could whipe out lower mahnhattan. Thats it. These are killo ton weapons compared to our mega ton warheads. A nuclear attack against us under any condition will also be responded with by nuclear weapons... it doesnt matter who did it.. someone in the ME will get one. Wouldn't be worth it.

According to you though, you would assume the government does it. Read my post on the last page.. it is not feasable to do such a thing. You cannot excel by annihalating your own economy.



Who's government? Not the one who elected JFK, who are the people of the USA. these were criminal elements within the government.
so therefore the government was taken over by these criminal elements, who are basically Nazi's.


The government is not elected officials. It is the entity that runs the processes of every day life that guide our nations intrest as a whole. Bush is not the government. He represents the people to the government. If the President goes against the governments wishes or intents, he can be killed. JFK had alot of enemies within the army and airforce. That is no seceret. Nor the CIA. Bay of Pigs anyone? They wanted to use the Cuban Missle Crissis to redeem themselves and he stoped it.. and thank god he did.. but he ended his life when he did so.

Is Bush a "Nazi"? I do not believe he belongs to the socialist party.



Why = Because they want to continue Hitler's agenda.


Oh. Right. Of course. Did you know the Nazi's in Germany blamed the Jews in the very same way you blame the Nazi's. Is that not ironic? .. Scapegoat.



When: We can go back as far as the Lincoln Assassination, these Southern Confederate people are the exact same ones who are in power now.


I do not believe you understand American history.. I can advise you many books you can read (not the internet.... a real book
u2u me if interested) I will not dwell on what the South was or was not. Simple fact is this. North did not have slavery because they did not need it. There was little moral objection... had Lincoln not needed blacks to rise up and help the cause he would have kept them as slaves just not count twards the population count on Census's. Infact, if you knew anything about history or perhaps read a book he had many plans for blacks.. one idea included sending them back to Africa. Other then slavery it was fought of state rights, unfair trade, diference in culture ect.



Why wait : Because these are Revelations that are just now being revealed to a blindly controlled population, The controlled demo's of the twin towers are the proof needed to shine a light on the real agenda of these Nazi's, america is now just starting to wake and open their eyes to the truth, but not everyone has awaken, the process was slow at the beginning but is now traveling faster and faster everyday.


That makes no sense what so ever. There have been much better times in American history to do such a thing. The fall of the Soviet Union.. the end of WW2.. the begining of Vietnam.. the civil unrest of the 60's .. common .. I want some logical explanations here.



By what means will it be carried out? you ask? well look at everything that is starting now meaning the Iraq war, we will soon be at war with Iran and when this happens, things will change fast here in the USA, so we just have to watch and wait, and listen to the people who are on the front lines of this battle.


The war in the middle east is a pathetic excuse of a travesty in terms of military power. 3,000 dead sounds like alot ... tell that to a WW2 vet or a Vietnam vet.. they could loose thousands in a day!

In the first gulf war we conducted the largest military mobilization the world had ever seen since the D-day invasion. 500,000 troops sitting in the desert. We have.... 150,000 in Iraq. Wow... im scared now.


And it's interesting. I think the government attacked us alright.. I think they brought down the towers....... I just don't think they did to "enslave" us.. but to boost a collapsing economy. And it worked.. for the rich.




Can you imagine what the world would look like if the south won the war? Well the people who are in power now can and that is exactly what they want to do, turn back the clock and reverse the outcome of the civil war, they now just consisder everyone in America who do not side with them as their enemies and slaves to be recaptured by the masters and put back on the plantation, they probably enjoy just killing people it's like a sport to them, you see.


First .. there are no what ifs in history.

Again you know absolutly nothing about American history. It is sad because you are probably American.. Is it a wonder why the world sees us as fat lazy ignorant jerks?

But lets play your little game.

The South won the war!

As a northerner (because my family fought and died in the fields of Pennsylvania) I would then be subserviant to southern plantation ownders? There where millions more Northerners then Southerners.. even if they won they would not have taken over the union but most likely turned and fought eachother untill they where no longer a confederation.

The mentality of a Southerner in the 1800's is no different inteligence and humanity wise then a "northerner" or a typical american today. We as a species do not evolve our inteligence but our understanding, and with that understanding comes a change in moral direction. Not all slave owners where mean to their salves. Authoritive sure.. but mean? Cruel? Again.. study history. There where mean northerners as well.. did you know that? Study the factories and you will find them rampent with sexual assaults, child molestation, forced labor, conditions so extreme it makes you sick. The Civil war was not about ethics. While there where sick dimented southerners there where Northerners as well.. while slavery was abolished the North never accepted them.. while we crushed the South at the end we still preformed scortched earth and burned a path and anything in its way clear to the atlantic ocean. Do not judge the ethics of people in the past through limitied knowledge and understanding, and do not bring history into a discussion against someone who understands the history.



posted on Jan, 18 2007 @ 11:27 PM
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Of the KKK?
Rockport Quote: Do not judge the ethics of people in the past through limitied knowledge and understanding, and do not bring history into a discussion against someone who understands the history. end quote.


PHARAOH1133 responce:
Everyone has their theories.

Or what about the American Indians? We killed millions of them.

Why? Because The Confederate Neo-Cons don't want to mix.

Do you really believe that these people really care what happens to the USA, No.
They are looking at other places on the globe like Brazil, Arnie just got back from there.

You see they view us all as slaves, so explain this history for me :
www.informationliberation.com...

quote]Originally posted by Rockpuck
Ok...

I will respond to the nukes first since it is the last thing posted:

Is that a possible and likely scenario? Yes, it is. The Soviet Union has lost quite a few nukes.. some very small or "suitcase nukes" and could have been sold by rouge generals who where in command of them. They could have been smuggled through Europe, most likely through Italy (Southern Italy) and straight to Mexico then through the border with the help of smugglers. It is supected that Osama could have them in 7 different US cities (according to his biographer who is a reliable source). Is it fact? No. Nuclear weapons require massive amounts of attention, they give off a constant temperature of 100+ degrees, they deteriate and have never been tested. Even if he did have suit case nukes they could very well by now be nothing more then a dity dud. The other aspect would be a suitcase nuke could whipe out lower mahnhattan. Thats it. These are killo ton weapons compared to our mega ton warheads. A nuclear attack against us under any condition will also be responded with by nuclear weapons... it doesnt matter who did it.. someone in the ME will get one. Wouldn't be worth it.


PHARAOH1133 Responce:
Explain the History of Biological Weapons of Mass Destruction for me, which I believe is more likely to occure here in the USA.
Start with N5H1 if you please.


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posted on Jan, 18 2007 @ 11:31 PM
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Here's a Video link as proof :
www.prisonplanet.com...


So what's your take on this Rockport?


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posted on Jan, 19 2007 @ 12:30 AM
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:Rockport:
Do not judge the ethics of people in the past through limitied knowledge and understanding, and do not bring history into a discussion against someone who understands the history.


He who controls the present controls the past and he who controls the past, controls the future.

So tell me, are we living in :
Past history?
Present History?
Or Future History?

Tell me what your version of history is on Hurricane Katrina?
Could this of been attack on African Americans, by not sending help?

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posted on Jan, 19 2007 @ 02:26 PM
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We have to ask you again, have you watched the Movie?
Behold a Pale Horse.
I bet you have not.
So, therefore how can you make these statements, which are suppose to be your impression of the movie, I can not believe that someone could watch the movie, then make statements like the ones you have made.
So please watch the movie, or refrain from making statements based on your so called verison of "History Of The World" which you do not back up with documented facts, what you state merily seems like "Just Your Opinion",
I could go on but I am really interested in the C-Span Senate Judiciary Hearings with the Attorney General explaing everything about why the "Anthrax Investigations" are taking so long.
Which also seems like another good topic to talk about, after watching the movie of coarse.


Originally posted by Infoholic
Have you watched the video in the original post? It's 4hrs. long, and has a lot of great information... of which the Kennedy Assassination is closely associated with the entire post.

Besides that's, I'm guessing it's a "drive it home" issue here.

video.google.com...

Besides, Kennedy was the only president to announce his plans to uncover the truths about all the information that is contained here on ATS....

government plots, NWO, the Illuminati, ufo's, the federal reserve... the list goes on and on. It's all intertwined.

[edit on 1/18/2007 by Infoholic]


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posted on Jan, 19 2007 @ 07:53 PM
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First. KKK was brought upon after the Civil war and had nothing to do with the south. It was as prominant in the North as it was in the South as well.

And for my final post, perhaps if the mods recognized the thread I would continue this.... um.. debate.. but since no recognition comes from it and you have become a waste of valuable time I will officially end this thread on that. In support of you.. long live the liberals
may you bring down thsoe dirty neo-cons
welcome to ATS friend.



posted on Jan, 19 2007 @ 09:59 PM
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Democrats either or the Liberals, both parties are controlled by the same entity.
Aw you don't have to leave forever, I listen to what you say, I enjoy all views, it's just that I thought you might of wanted to watch the movie.
I'm also sorry if I said anything that might of upset you, my wish is to gain friends not push them away.

Anyways, I guess I will see ya somewhere on the board later. Bye


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posted on Jan, 20 2007 @ 04:39 PM
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It seems like there are quite a few people viewing this site but I do not know how many people acually watch the movie, it might seem long but is a very interesting video to watch especially on a lazy sataurday afternoon.



posted on Jan, 21 2007 @ 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by PHARAOH1133
Imagine a giant 1 million piece puzzle that we are attempting to put together, there are a few pieces put together forming some kind of picture but we are blindfolded and can't find any of the pieces, so we have to get on our hands and knees to search for them on the floor, once we find a piece we are allowed to peek through our blindfold and view the piece and try to figure out where it needs to fit in the overall picture, but at the same time we have others around us who don't like the fact that we are beginning to see what the picture is starting to look like, they try to lead us in the wrong directions looking for the pieces and treat us like we are servants, we are their slaves and they control us through our money system, except we are becoming too powerful and we are multiplying too fast, so now that the masters have everything they need from us including life extention, they figure out that if they don't exterminate us soon they will be killed themselves, so they build FEMA prison concentration death camps to take us to just like in Nazi Germany, you see we are living in 1933 Germany right now here in the U.S. Hitler is rising and world war three is beginning, you see it's all a game, a game of survival, the way you and I win, is to figure out how we can pull the blindfold off and quickly finish the puzzle so we can see what the picture is, so we can protect ourselves and our familiies so we don't have to burn in the gas chambers. There is a revolution coming and we need to prepare to survive it. Good luck to you my friend and I hope this explains it all to you it's the shortest best way I can explain it to you in a brief way.

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Great video P. . I appreciate you posting it.

On a side note, I think your post above is the longest run-on sentence I've ever read. Makes it hard to understand exactly what you are saying.



posted on Jan, 25 2007 @ 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by amongus

Great video P. . I appreciate you posting it.






So could we only be looking at a small picture of the real truth about what is really going on?



posted on Jan, 26 2007 @ 02:31 AM
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Everyone should watch this video, and the length is irrelevant if you are interested in what he's saying. Cooper was murdered/assassinated because of all the info he have revealed through the years.

I wonder what people are doing here if they do not care to learn about NWO. If you really want to learn then you shouldn't whine about the length of the movie!



posted on Jan, 26 2007 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by InSaneTK
Everyone should watch this video, and the length is irrelevant if you are interested in what he's saying. Cooper was murdered/assassinated because of all the info he have revealed through the years.

I wonder what people are doing here if they do not care to learn about NWO. If you really want to learn then you shouldn't whine about the length of the movie!


If you want you can just let the movie play and just kick back on the couch and just listen, but when he starts showing pictures of the buildings and crosses on the moon you will want to see them


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posted on Jan, 26 2007 @ 04:15 PM
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well i just started watching and the first thing i noticed was the alien autopsy going on in the background



posted on Jan, 26 2007 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by biotic
well i just started watching and the first thing i noticed was the alien autopsy going on in the background


Can you please refresh my memory, which video were you watching?
There are several here on this thread, the one by Bill Cooper will blow your mind



posted on Jan, 27 2007 @ 04:12 PM
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i watched behold a pale horse, i was joking about the autopsy tho



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