Thousands of Birds Fall From Sky in Australia

Originally posted by lee anoma
Could it be?
Was Saddam really Mabus?

Mabus will soon die, then will come
a horrible destruction of people and beasts:
Then all too suddenly the vengeance is revealed,
A hundred, hand, thirst, hunger, when the comet shall run.

Okay, I'm not trying to be alarmist or anything so don't lynch me...still it is kind of weird and there is that amazingly bright "Comet McNaught" that's headed for the sun.

Weird.

Mabus has died, the beasts are dying, ... the comet shall run...
is this the comet?

comet McNaught

Well. I hope that Comet is not starting to slow down and enter into stationary orbit, because that would mean, it's not a comet.

i'm not sure how it could be from a toxin other than it being somthing airborne. there are a few different species being affected here in different geographic locations. that would suggest that it probably isn't toxic food source. also, since no evidence of viral infection is apparent, it probably isn't bird flu.

perhaps the unusually warm climate is affecting the birds migrational patterns and not affecting their food source. when a bird migrates, it probably isn't going to be eating the same thing in one area that it would in another.

Conclusions I draw from this

-Not bird flu because no evidence of viral infection
-Probably not toxic food source because of different species eating different things in different geographical locations.. they can't all be infected with the same toxin

-Could be airborne toxin
-Could be climate changes affecting migrational patters therefore they are starving.
-Could be possible electromagnetic field involvement? We are approaching a solstice, Platonic year, although i'm not sure if that would have any effect.

[edit on 10-1-2007 by Arkane]

www.news.com.au...

This article is on the Austrailian bird deaths today.

I think that they are just guessing.

Very interesting topic, thanks to everyone for their input.

Or........some nefarious organization with long reaching tenticles could be killing birds all over the world to create a mass hysteria. Maybe this could be a first step to a global takeover.

Peace

Anyone read this:

Washington, D.C. (3:00 p.m. 3 August, 2006). Today, American Bird Conservancy and Defenders of Wildlife hailed the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) decision to cancel the registration of most uses of the highly toxic pesticide carbofuran after a prolonged review. The pesticide, which is sold under the name “Furadan” by FMC Corporation, is one of the most toxic pesticides to birds left on the market. It is responsible for the deaths of millions of wild birds since its introduction in 1967, including Bald and Golden Eagles, Red-tailed Hawks, and migratory songbirds, as well as other wildlife.

abcbirds.org...

Usually a certain amout of time is given to comply in these situations and according to this story they are allowing 4 years to phase this one out in some areas. Makes you wonder how many other nasty pesticides are poisoning the planet.

I'm surpised nobody has brought this up yet. Methane Hydrates (Clathrates)

According to wikipedia:
Source

Methane clathrate, also called methane hydrate or methane ice, is a form of water ice that contains a large amount of methane within its crystal structure (a clathrate hydrate). Originally thought to occur only in the outer regions of the solar system where temperatures are low and water ice is common, extremely large deposits of methane clathrate have been found under sediments on the ocean floors of Earth.

Take a look at the distribution map at the source, it could account for almost every instance of the foul smells/dead birds. I cannot remember where, but I've seen another map with deposits near Australia.

With the obvious global warming thats taking place, its extremely possible for these deposits destabalizing and changing phase into methane gas, this stuff is very unstable and would probably cause a chain reaction in which massive amounts of methane would be released into the atmosphere.

Also from the same source.

Methane is a powerful greenhouse gas which, despite its atmospheric lifetime of around 12 years, none the less has a global warming potential of 62 over 20 years and 21 over 100 years (IPCC, 1996; Berner and Berner, 1996; vanLoon and Duffy, 2000). The sudden release of large amounts of natural gas from methane clathrate deposits has been hypothesized as a cause of past and possibly future climate changes. Events possibly linked in this way are the Permian-Triassic extinction event, the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum.

Pretty scary, in theory warming seas could release all of this frozen methane, accellerating global warming at a much faster rate than anybody ever expected. And the fact that this type of release is associated with the Permian extinction is _really_ scary.

The Permian-Triassic (P-T or PT) extinction event, sometimes informally called the Great Dying, was an extinction event that occurred approximately 251 million years ago (mya), forming the boundary between the Permian and Triassic geologic periods. It was the Earth's most severe extinction event, with about 96 percent of all marine species and 70 percent of terrestrial vertebrate species becoming extinct[

Mor info here.

It would be interesting to find out if there have been any shipping reports of "bubbling" oceans in these areas, of course the area is so large it would be hard to find.


[edit on 10-1-2007 by Speedtek]

Here is another very interesting document. Just to let you all know it is a PDF.

www.fws.gov/birds/mortality-fact-sheet.pdf

I suspect that the earth is venting 'poisonous' gases.

Not that there are not other real threats - and we may be seeing the results of a combination of factors.

Originally posted by undo
could someoone post the link for austin?

news.yahoo.com...

Originally posted by Speedtek
I'm surpised nobody has brought this up yet. Methane Hydrates (Clathrates)

According to wikipedia:
Source

Methane clathrate, also called methane hydrate or methane ice, is a form of water ice that contains a large amount of methane within its crystal structure (a clathrate hydrate). Originally thought to occur only in the outer regions of the solar system where temperatures are low and water ice is common, extremely large deposits of methane clathrate have been found under sediments on the ocean floors of Earth.

Take a look at the distribution map at the source, it could account for almost every instance of the foul smells/dead birds. I cannot remember where, but I've seen another map with deposits near Australia.

With the obvious global warming thats taking place, its extremely possible for these deposits destabalizing and changing phase into methane gas, this stuff is very unstable and would probably cause a chain reaction in which massive amounts of methane would be released into the atmosphere.

Also from the same source.

Methane is a powerful greenhouse gas which, despite its atmospheric lifetime of around 12 years, none the less has a global warming potential of 62 over 20 years and 21 over 100 years (IPCC, 1996; Berner and Berner, 1996; vanLoon and Duffy, 2000). The sudden release of large amounts of natural gas from methane clathrate deposits has been hypothesized as a cause of past and possibly future climate changes. Events possibly linked in this way are the Permian-Triassic extinction event, the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum.

Pretty scary, in theory warming seas could release all of this frozen methane, accellerating global warming at a much faster rate than anybody ever expected. And the fact that this type of release is associated with the Permian extinction is _really_ scary.

The Permian-Triassic (P-T or PT) extinction event, sometimes informally called the Great Dying, was an extinction event that occurred approximately 251 million years ago (mya), forming the boundary between the Permian and Triassic geologic periods. It was the Earth's most severe extinction event, with about 96 percent of all marine species and 70 percent of terrestrial vertebrate species becoming extinct[

Mor info here.

It would be interesting to find out if there have been any shipping reports of "bubbling" oceans in these areas, of course the area is so large it would be hard to find.


[edit on 10-1-2007 by Speedtek]

Well no bubbling oceans reported, but we do have this.

"January 8, 2007 -- The environmental "surge" you're not hearing anything about.

According to U.S. maritime industry sources, tanker captains are reporting an increase in onboard alarms from hazard sensors designed to detect hydrocarbon gas leaks and, specifically, methane leaks."

From here > waynemadsenreport.com...


Scroll a little down on the source page.

[edit on 10-1-2007 by NJStomp]

Mabus flipped is sudam........ think about it

I'm willing to bet this is the culprit, I live in Northern NY, and we had our first snowfall last night after a 50 degree winter... VERY odd.

From the same source -

In fact, one of the major sources for increased methane venting is the Hudson Submarine Canyon, which extends 400 miles into the Atlantic from the New York-New Jersey harbor. Another location experiencing increased venting is the Santa Barbara Channel on the California coast.

From another source.

Methane is odorless so it wouldn't be directly responsible for the stank that New York City and Jersey City experienced Monday, but when the methane starts bubbling up to the surface it is often accompanied by hydrogen sulfide, a byproduct of the bacterial decomposition that occurs on the ocean floor. And the Hudson Submarine Channel would be particularly susceptible to extra-stinky decomposition, as many speculate it is still covered with the sludge and trash of several centuries of the inhabitants of New York City dumping their garbage and sewage directly into the harbor.

And finally to put a nail in the stinky coffin of where this is coming from.

Hey, look, the wind was coming in from the east (the direction of the trench) that day!
Wind Direction & Weather

I'm quite sure our gov knows about this, but why is there no mention of it in the general media?? Go figure! Its alot easier just to blame it on New Jersey.


[edit on 10-1-2007 by Speedtek]

that's a great find and good link to all of that.
cheers.

Methane isn't toxic though so it couldn't be killing bird do to inhalation.

This is all pretty weird.

I live in Michigan. Remember I am surrounded by bodies of water. December 20th, I got really sick. I NEVER get sick. I had Swollen, white tonsils, and my body ached all over. I can't even describe the pain I was having in my throat.

Anyway, I went to the doctors, and got every test possible. The tests came back negative for Strep, tonsilitis, Mono, Thrush, and they ruled out Bronchitis. My doctor was stumped and said it's most likely a virul infection that can't be detected in tests. She prescribed me Amoxicillin anyway but it didn't help. It went away on it's own by the 27th i believe.

Here's the weird part. After I was sick, at least half of the people I know knew somebody who all of a suddon got extremely ill. Cousins, friends, people I didn't even know were getting sick all on the same day. Then I read on this thread that people are getting sick everywhere.

So, it's January 10th now. Four days ago, my girlfriend woke up and OUT OF NOWHERE her tonsils were completely swelled and the white "stuff" was there as well. Her doctor also couldn't find out what it is. Later in teh day, My throat started to hurt again, and later the white stuff was back. Now i find it very weird that I'm getting the same illness for a 2nd time after I already fought it off once. It cleared up completely yesterday, but my girlfriend still has it. My dad also got it yesterday. No doctors can tell us what it is, and it is extremely ugly looking and VERY painful.

Other things that might be worth mentioning is that my dog is also ill, and a few days ago there were two dead squirrel's in my backyard, with no visable reason for them being dead.

Could this also be connected to the things that have been going on the last couple of weeks? Could the Great Lakes be releasing some sort of undetectable gas that makes creatures ill? I'm very worried about this. I don't want to get sick again.

Someone please tell me how stupid I am and that this is completely unrelated, and I just live in a dirty house or something. But that still doesn't explain the fact that half the people I know are sick right now.

I mean, literally. Out of all the people on Instant Messenger on my buddy list right now, 40% of them have an away message about them being sick or not feeling good.

What's going on?

I really hope you people's paranoia is just rubbing off on me or something.

if you don't have problems with salt, i'd suggest you go buy a bag of celtic sea salt or himalayan crystal salt and eat a crystal or two everyday (crystal's about the size of a quarter of a hershey's kiss). alot of weird viruses and bacteria seem suspectible to it, even the designer ones. just omit all other salt from your diet. you can also gargle with it in warm water for tonsils.

Thank you for the advice. I think I will go buy that salt. I did gargle with hot saltwater, and it did seem to help a lot. I just hope it's not going to come back for a third time. I've had strep throat before. I've also had the flu. What this is seems to be a mixture of the two, only on steroids or something. It's awful.

Sorry if this seems off-topic. I'm new to the board. This thread just really reminded me of all the stuff happening around here.

[edit on 10-1-2007 by Seedless]

upper respiratory infections tend to be viral in nature. i'm sure the warm weather has brought on flu bugs. also, if they give you a throat culture and a blood test and your throat culture and mono spot come back negative but your CBC has an elevated white blood cell count, it is almost certainly a virus.

Here is another interesting article on the subject:
www.worldnetdaily.com...

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