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Originally posted by loam
Burning Teflon can kill birds INSTANTLY. Apparently, burning Teflon has little to no immediate impact on mammals.
Teflon (Safety)
While Teflon itself is chemically inert and non-toxic, Teflon begins to deteriorate after the temperature of cookware reaches about 460 °F(237 °C), and begins to significantly decompose above 660 °F (350 °C). These degradation products can be lethal to birds, and can cause flu-like symptoms in humans (see Teflon flu). By comparison, cooking fats, oils and butter will begin to scorch and smoke at about 392 °F (200 °C), and meat is usually fried between 400–450 °F (200–230 °C), but empty cookware can exceed this temperature if left unattended on a hot burner. A 1959 study, conducted before the FDA approved the material for use in food processing equipment, showed that the toxicity of fumes given off by the coated pan on dry heating was less than that of fumes given off by ordinary cooking oils.
A 1973 study confirmed the FDA findings and found that a 4-hour exposure to the pyrolysis products of butter in an uncoated pan at 260°C were 100% toxic to parakeets, whereas no deaths were observed for exposure to Teflon pyrolysis products until the Teflon coated pan was heated to 280 °C. Over the 40 years non-stick cookware has been in widespread use, there is only one published case of a minor, short-lasting health effect in humans linked to overheating non-stick cookware.
Originally posted by Deus_Brandon
As my brother lives in Austin ... and I just called him and he was still asleep ... @ freakin 12:22 in the day but that is besides the point lol .... Anyways he said he had not heard anything on the subject and he lives off of Congress Ave. Anyways will keep you up to date with any information that he recieves through the day ...
Originally posted by sensfan
I think it will probably be found that someone got sick of the pidgeons poopingon his car, and put out some poison bird feed. Simple explanation, and makes sense.
...including bioweapons-related pathogens - in the air above San Antonio and Austin, Texas. "We're surrounded by bacteria, and they are not necessarily friendly," says Gary Andersen, a staff scientist at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory.
Originally posted by sensfan
I think it will probably be found that someone got sick of the pidgeons poopingon his car, and put out some poison bird feed. Simple explanation, and makes sense.
Originally posted by soficrow
Birds are our "Distant Early Warning" system for bad air - their body systems are more sensitive than ours, so they tend to die before we do.
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Originally posted by loam
Anyone see the Houston Gas cloud thread?
With Austin, NY, Miami and Houston all in the mix, I'm starting to believe this is all a drill.
What else accounts for 60+ birds...of three different species...dying in a two block area...in calm weather...and with no evidence of toxic impact on humans or other animals?
This FEELS staged.
[edit on 8-1-2007 by loam]
Originally posted by fooffstarr
I agree about the stage feeling. They picked a good day if they faked the leaks as well, with the whole comet + earthquakes + terrorism alert going on.