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Originally posted by FULCRUM
Can it be converted to some other format? As i dont have OFFICE.. as it really its good for anything..
Or di you have a another link to same file.. lefts say in .PDF format?
Originally posted by Pyros
Show me verified proof that an M1A1 was destroyed (rendered non-recoverable and non-repairable) by either an ATGM or hostile MBT and I will aquiesce.
Originally posted by fritz
Kozzy, I have a simple question to ask.
How can you justify in your ratings, that the Merkava (Chariot or Lion Cub) and the Leo 2 are better than the Chally 2, when NEITHER HAS SEEN COMBAT AGAINST OTHER TANKS?
The Merkava is an overly large armoured personnel carrier, armed with a 105 mm or 120mm turret mounted gun. It has never been used in tank v tank combat mainly because terrorists do not have them and the Syrians in Lebanon aint got the guts to fight them head on.
The Leo 2 is a great tank with the ability to run at speeds in excess of 40 mph cross country BUT you can't stabilise the main armament even with dampers and gyros at that speed and still expect to hit the target!
No my friend. One on one between Abrams and Chally 2? Chally would win hands down because our crews are trained to a higher standard!
Originally posted by Pyros
I am not a fool.
As an American I have the luxury/misfortune of having friends and relatives who are in Iraq as I type this who can provide me with firsthand accounts of what is happening. And I have been repeated told that no US MBTs have been lost to either enemy armour or ATGMs. Some MBTs have been lost due to secondary fires and very large land mines, if you take the time to view the presentation you will understand.
Also as an American, I have the luxury of having access to the finest software available. The file in question is a .ppt, or Microsoft PowerPoint file, which is part of the Microsoft Office software suite. Sorry if we dont export it to Russia..........
Originally posted by fritz
Kozzy, me thinks you is missing the point about the thread and the problems I have with it.
Sure, the Merkava has destroyed T-55s, T-64s & T-72s. Even an RPG will do that!
No my friend. What I refer to is modern armour v armour tank fighting. Armour has moved on since the occupation of Lebanon by the Israelis in 1982. That was over 20 years ago and that is why I totally ignored that fact.
The Israelis have not engaged a single modern armoured battle in over 25 years. I beleive the last time they did, they still wupped arab botty's with Cents and M60s. That was why the excellant IMI designed the Merkava in the first place and yes it was designed to carry stretchers or infantry from the outset.
Has the Leopard actually fired a shot in anger? I think not. Firing on the move at Hohne or Sennelager aint the same as banging off rounds in combat, even under simulated battlefield conditions.
Just 'cause something is fast, that don't make it accurate. All that makes it is harder to hit.
When was the last time the Germans designed a damned good tank, eh?
What have the Germans ever done for armoured warfare?
Apart from the Panther.
Or the Tiger 1.
Or the Tiger 2.
Almostr forgot about the Mk IV with its powered turret and almost stabilised 75cm gun.
But apart from them, what have the Germans ever done for armoured warefare?
Only we and the yanks have had that pleasure
Originally posted by Kozzy
What have the Germans ever done for armoured warfare?
Apart from the Panther.
Or the Tiger 1.
Or the Tiger 2.
Almostr forgot about the Mk IV with its powered turret and almost stabilised 75cm gun.
But apart from them, what have the Germans ever done for armoured warefare?
Only we and the yanks have had that pleasure
Originally posted by fritz
When was the last time the Germans designed a damned good tank, eh?