Did the USSR ever have anything like the Sr-71 Blackbird?

Does anyone know anything about a USSR aircraft that
could do the same job as the Blackbird? Or did they
have one in the works when the USSR collapsed?

P.S. I mean a spy plane not a fighter or bomber

they had it before SR-71, like the tupolev yastreb, MiG-25R, NM-1, DBR-2, etc...

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Originally posted by SectorGaza
they had it before SR-71, like the tupolev yastreb, MiG-25R, NM-1, DBR-2, etc...

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Did they ever fly missions over th USA?

heres a pic of the rsr strategic reccon aircraft


reminds me the sr-71

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Have you got any REAL pics of these?

nm-1
rsr

yastreb

mig-25R

the rsr was scrapped later


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Did they fly any missions over th USA? Plus have you
got any specs for these aircraft? There some good pics SectorGaza thanks.

soviet manned space vehicle:

Originally posted by SectorGaza
they had it before SR-71, like the tupolev yastreb, MiG-25R, NM-1, DBR-2, etc...

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No, The USSR Never had a purpose built High supersonic spyplane. As for the above planes:

Mig-25: this entire series started out with the Mig-25A Foxbat. The Mig-25 was built after the SR-71 and was origionally built as an Interceptor to prevent the CIA's A-12 Blackbird From overflying the USSR

NM-1,DBR-2,Ysterb: I've never heard of them, I'm courious where you found these planes at!

Tim
ATS Director of CounterIgnorance

They probably did, but wasn't stupid enough to get their spy plane shot down over enemy land

Actually, the MiG-25 was designed and built in response to the XB-70 Valkyrie bomber, which was cancelled after the USAF realized that it would never be able to survive the high-altitude SAMs the Soviets were designing in the 1960's.

The Soviets where threatened enough, however, to build a response to the XB-70, which ended up being the MiG-25. By the time the XB-70 was cancelled, the MiG-25 designs were far enough along that the Politburo decided to continue with the design (it was a radical new design that showed alot of promise).

Ironically, when the USAF got wind of the MiG-25, they freaked out. They completely overestimated its performance capabilities, thinking it was a new breed of air dominance fighter, when in reality it was a long-range interceptor with limited maneuverability. But the USAF was worried enough that they eventually came up with the F-15 Eagle as a direct response to the MiG-25.

When Victor Belenko defected with a MiG-25 to Japan in the late 1970's, the USAF was very surprised to learn that the MiG was not what they envisioned. They came to realize that it was designed to get off the ground quickly, gain altitude quickly, cover alot of ground, and engage high flying targets at long range with massive AA missiles and a high-power AI radar (just what you would need to shoot down a B-70).

The MiG-25 was a natual fit for the recce mission, as it flew so very high and fast. I believe the Foxbat B and D are the recce models, and they have been used in combat recce missions all over the world with good success. Most notably in the 1973 Israeli War, Egyptian MiG-25's (with Russian pilots) flew many recce missions unmolested over the heart of Israel while Israeli Phantoms and Mirages helplessly flew below them. Only the deliver of American F-15's equipped with Sparrow missiles later in the 1970's put a damper on these operations.

The other aircraft in the posted pictures looks like an unmanned, land-based drone/RPV which I believe is based upon the SS-N-3 Shaddock missile system.

As far as I know, now Soviet aircraft has ever penetrated continental US airspace without an escort from the USAF or ANG. Bear D's used to go up and down the East Coast all the time on their way to Cuba, and many different Soviet aircraft have flew near or over Alaskan airspace. But who knows. I'm sure there are some classified instances that the USAF is not willing to tell us about.

only one of them is unmanned, the yastreb.

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the RSR reminds me of a large F-104 with 2 engines in a weird place

That all sound like very nice story,

But lets keep it in real.

F-15s were designed to counter and out class MiG-21s..

Not MiG-25s.

Read your Vietnam war studies and you shall learn.

if some of you didnt know...

mig25 topped out at 3.2 mach!!!

mig-25 info

and its highest altitude was some where in the 120,000ft.!!!

edit:
sorry for the wrong info...

the top altiutude was 123,524 ft!!!

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Originally posted by ghost

Originally posted by SectorGaza
they had it before SR-71, like the tupolev yastreb, MiG-25R, NM-1, DBR-2, etc...

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No, The USSR Never had a purpose built High supersonic spyplane, how do you call the yastreb and the above planes then?

Mig-25: this entire series started out with the Mig-25A Foxbat.
No. they started from e-155r which defined development of the mig-25a

FULCRUM,

You are apparently suffering from a severe case of cranial-rectal inversion.

In the early 1970's the MiG-21 was being HANDLED easily by F-4's in Vietnam and F-4's and Mirage III's in the Middle East.

If anything, the USAF developed the F-16 in the mid 1970's to counter small Soviet tactical fighters, such as the MiG-21 and MiG-23.

Although defeating the early MiG family of aircraft was undoubtedly part of the F-15's mission, it was designed to be a multi-mission air superioroty fighter.

And since the MiG-25, in any incarnation, had absolutely NO SHOT at intercepting an A-11 or SR-71, how can you state that this was the design purpose of the MiG-25? Hell, even the best Soviet SAMs couldn't touch an SR-71, nevermind a manned aircraft.

Refer to this link:

MiG-25

Doesn't the Blackbird hold ALL the records for speed and altitude for manned jet powered aircraft?

Shut your trap and study the facts..

Look for examble for my Vietnam Air war topic here in ATS..

NVAF shot down in Air to Air combat some 340 USAF/USN/USMC aircrafts, lost about 70..



MiG-21 was too much for F-4s..

Much too agile.. etc..

MiG-21 were the best planes in the skies of Vietnam.



In all Vietnamese shot down THOUSANDS of US aircrafts and helicopters.. and damaged thousands more beyond repair..



Link!

The Eagle?s history is long and distinguished. It began as a Air Force fighter study in the early 1960s and was known as the Fighter Experimental (FX). By 1967 the Air Force began development of a new high performance fighter aircraft that would be extremely agile and would be capable of gaining and maintaining air superiority through air-to-air combat. The new design had to be optimized for combat with the power and agility to overcome any current or projected Soviet threat. The F-15 was the first air-to-air fighter requested by the Air Force since the F-86 Sabre. The resulting F-15 Eagle had an unequaled combination of performance, firepower, and avionics. It was the benchmark--the plane to beat.

Experience in the Vietnam conflict showed the F-4 Phantom II to have maneuvering performance inferior to that of the Soviet-built MiG21. In response to this finding, the USAF developed a set of requirements for a dedicated air-superiority fighter with a maneuvering capability greater than any existing or foreseeable-future fighter aircraft.

Using lessons learned in Vietnam, the USAF sought to develop and procure a new, dedicated air superiority fighter. Such an aircraft was desperately needed, as no USAF aircraft design solely conceived as an air superiority fighter had become reality since the F-86 Sabre. The intervening twenty years saw a number of aircraft performing the air-to-air role as a small part of their overall mission, such as the primarily air-to-ground F-4 Phantom and the F-102, F-104 and F-106 interceptor designs. The result of the FX study was a requirement for a fighter design combining unparalleled maneuverability with state-of-the-art avionics and weaponry.



F-4 -> inferior to MiG-21s.
F-15 -> build to better MiG-21s.



Who are you trying to fool?



And what comes to the IDF/AF vs Arab airforces, Israeli pilots just were very good, Arabs at the first werent even average..

But even they did score plenty victories over Israelis in A2a especially in Jom Kippur war..

well the mig21 was the most agile of the planes the f-15 was not designed to take on the mig.