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Originally posted by elevatedone
Akareyon .... are you and Leslie the same person?
Originally posted by Leslie Powers
I think they were originally going to tell the public that he was caught in Pakistan, closer to the elections. However, I believe he may have died in custody and this changed their plans. --Leslie
Originally posted by Hellmutt
Myspace is the most ridiculous source you can use...
Originally posted by CameronFox
A free Anywho search turns up Ali Hussain in many states! We are surrounded!!
She paid a dollar for hers!
www.anywho.com...
Hussain, Ali
194 *****
Brooklyn, NY 11201
718-624-8***
Hussain, Ali M
14 *******
Brooklyn, NY 11235
718-891-****
Hussain, Ali
3957 *****Ave
Carlsbad, CA 92010
760-*******
Hussain, Ali
364 **** St
Waltham, MA 02453
781-*******
Hussain, Ali & Safura
789 ******Rd
Sudbury, MA 01776
978-******
Hussain, Ali
16380 ******
Pembroke Pines, FL 33028
Originally posted by bob2000
Originally posted by Leslie Powers
Originally posted by Digital_Reality
What made you so sure it was UBLs myspace profile? Can you elaborate on this?
One of his alias's was The Director. Also, I have seen many suspicious Mysace accounts that I believe to be members of Al Qaida. The follow a pattern. I used this same pattern to find the first terrorist I turned in that I think may have helped thwart the Brittish Airway attacks. They use a symbol of some (usually a pop symbol like a car or something)sort and not a picture and the profile is opened. When I saw the Seahorese, I just had a strong feeling it was him. The fact that he had no friends despite being active on the account seemed to make sense since he wouldn't want anyone connected with him. It was a strong hunch based on circumstancial evidence. It was very fortunate that I found it, because the Seahorse turned out to be a very good clue.
THis post just killed your credibility. Lets see now, you Leslie Powers were responsible for not only stopping the Brittish Airway attacks, but also in catching Bin Laden........
What is the probability that the same person will able to catch 2 big Terrists in 6 months given that this person is average Jane? the answer is very slim. It would have been more realistic if your lie was just about bin laden or just the Brittish Airway Attacks, oh but you had to lie and say you were involved in 2. Thats just unrealistic.
You also talk of the characteristic of having a pic of a car or seahorse as a predictor that the person is a terrorist. Now If someone actually performed a statistical test to see how strongly avatar pics are associated with terrorists on my space, I would have no doubt they would find no correlation. having a picture of a car as a myspace pic is so common and with non-terrorist people that theres no way it could have lead you to a terrorist. so this means you accidentally found UBL thinking his seahors pic tipped you off.
But if it is, the best thing for Leslie to do is to give all emails, names (i.e. of FBI agents/offices she has been talking to) and dates to some independent media outlet (or the ATS admins, for a starter) and elaborate on what happened when, where and why before she somehow "disappears".
Originally posted by bob2000
Originally posted by Leslie Powers
I think they were originally going to tell the public that he was caught in Pakistan, closer to the elections. However, I believe he may have died in custody and this changed their plans. --Leslie
he may have died?
Lets see here:
Saddam Hussein in Custody, didnt die
Zacharais Mussoui in custody, didnt die
Kallied Shaek Muhammad in custody, didnt die
Ramsi Yusef in custody, didnt die
Timmothy mcveih, didnt die in custody.
Chamical Ali in custudy, not dead
I could go on with major terrorists that were caught.
Statistically speaking, the probability of him dieing in custody is slim. THe only major terrorists who did die were those who put up a big fight during the moments when they were about to be captured (Zarkawi, Uday, Qusay etc.). Well, obviously when the feds supposedly caught UBL, UBL didnt put up a fight or wed hear about a "shootout with the feds" in NYC on the news. But we didnt, so that pretty much rules out that he put up a fight if your story were true. so again, statistically speaking, chances are slim that he died in custody.
Your story is BS
YOU ARE A TROLL!
Originally posted by bob2000
Leslie is goofing us, her story is a lie. theres plenty of evidence that proves it a lie (symbols for myspace pics provide us with no infomation if someone is a terrorist or not, theres no correlation. I caught you in your lie leslie).
Shes doing this for kicks, or shes F'd up in the head, and truly beleives she somehow found UBL and reported him to the FBI and they thanked her etc. Dellusional could be one explanation why shes doing this.
If it is not, it's okay for me to say sorry for starting this thread and causing confusion at all, but I'd do so anytime again if I stumble across something similar - for if I were the kind of person who'd cry "bunk" and "bs" at everything I can't touch, see or smell, I'd not even be a member of ATS :-)
Thank you, and have a blessed 2007.
[edit on 29-12-2006 by Akareyon]
Originally posted by Leslie Powers
Originally posted by bob2000
Leslie is goofing us, her story is a lie. theres plenty of evidence that proves it a lie (symbols for myspace pics provide us with no infomation if someone is a terrorist or not, theres no correlation. I caught you in your lie leslie).
Shes doing this for kicks, or shes F'd up in the head, and truly beleives she somehow found UBL and reported him to the FBI and they thanked her etc. Dellusional could be one explanation why shes doing this.
If I am dellusional than so are my partner and kids. They have been with me the entire time and believe what I am saying to be true. Besides, I have known these facts since August. That would be an awfully long dellusion. If I was mental do you think my thoughts would be so organized? I know what the FBI told me. They varified the facts. I am not making it up. I'm sorry that you feel that I am.
Originally posted by Leslie Powers
It is Improbable that this all happened, but not impossible. Besides, who ever said I was an average Jane ;o) There is more to spotting a terrorist myspace account than a strong avatar. They have to be using a known alias of a terrorist. There are also other factors that I look for, but it is hard to explain because it is not so cut and dry. I agree that it is not terribly scientific, but perhaps more intuitive. As far as the seahorse connection, it was a hunch as were all of the steps in the process. I rely heavily on hunches and intuition. This does not mean that my conclusions are wrong. If I had used only hard-core evidence, I never would have found any terrorists. Some people have even suspected that I am psychic, which I do not really believe.
[edit on 29-12-2006 by Leslie Powers]
One trick to being a good liar is to use alot of details. You got that part down.
Originally posted by bob2000
Originally posted by Leslie Powers
It is Improbable that this all happened, but not impossible. Besides, who ever said I was an average Jane ;o) There is more to spotting a terrorist myspace account than a strong avatar. They have to be using a known alias of a terrorist. There are also other factors that I look for, but it is hard to explain because it is not so cut and dry. I agree that it is not terribly scientific, but perhaps more intuitive. As far as the seahorse connection, it was a hunch as were all of the steps in the process. I rely heavily on hunches and intuition. This does not mean that my conclusions are wrong. If I had used only hard-core evidence, I never would have found any terrorists. Some people have even suspected that I am psychic, which I do not really believe.
[edit on 29-12-2006 by Leslie Powers]
Yeah, saying its "improbable but not impossible" is like some guy who just got caught by the police and hes got drugs in his car and hes dressed like a thug and he says "some guy just ran up to my car and put the drugs in there" and this guy also just happens to look like a druggy. Do you really think this guy's "improbable but not impossible" argument will hold up? Do you really think that it could be true given the evidence (drugs in car, his story, and the way he looks) Do you expect the cop to beleive such a story? Becuase thats you. your the guy trying to argue such an improbable event as true.
It just doesnt hold up.
There are many details in your whole story that statistically just dont hold up. Statistically, If I actually sat down did the research and calculated the probability of one person experiencing all these improbable events which you did, the probability would likely be less than wining the megamillions lottery.
On the other hand, the probability of someone who needs psychiatric help who did some research and planned out a well organized lie just for kicks (you sicko) is definitely a million times more probable than the one where someone actually experienced this UBL capture the way you described it happened to you.
So lets look at the weight here....
someone captured UBL AND stopped the british airway attacks AND binladen randomly died in custody AND stumbled on UBLs myspace page by chance becuase it had a seahorse which provides no info about someone being a terrorist.....
or
Somoene has been keeping track of bin laden stuff in the media for a long time, has done alot of research and is sick in the head to where they would go to this great length to fool people on the net.
hmmmm, could it be could the second one have like infinitely more weight? could it be the second one? yes, we have a winner!!!!!!!!!!
[edit on 29-12-2006 by bob2000]
[edit on 29-12-2006 by bob2000]
1: Is it possible for UBL to send/receive myspace messages without adding anyone to his friends list?
Originally posted by Rasobasi420
Okay leslie, let's put probability aside, and see if you can answer a few Yes or no questions:
1: Is it possible for UBL to send/receive myspace messages without adding anyone to his friends list?
2: Do you have 1 verifyable piece of evidence that can show that "The" was actually Osama Bin Ladin, aside from your word?
3: How many names all together did you give the feds, and were they all based on your "hunches"? (I know it's not yes or no, but c'mon)