Did you fear muslims before 9/11?

Why will anybody be afraid of muslins? we have a big population of them in our nation.

They were here before 9/11 and they are still here after.

Terrorist has been around before 9/11 and they are still around now.

I fear more what my own elected governments are doing in my nation and around the world that I fear what the muslin neighbor next door is doing during his prayer hour.

Marg,

I happen to agree with everything you said.

Rabid consumerism (especially the need for more oil) has created warmongering by the west and I too fear the actions and lies our governments spin.

Muslims are the scapegoats in one of the biggest crimes ever committed on this planet against the people of the USA. No need for me to get specific, you know what I am saying. Is it any wonder they are well and truly pissed now ?

I also think the term "terrorist' has become the bogeyman and is over used to stereotype all Muslims.

Never had a fear of Muslims but fearful of what may happen in the future because of the lies and accusations.

In Peace Always
res

Originally posted by resistancia
Marg,

I happen to agree with everything you said.

Thanks, you know I understand what you mean, has muslin views changed since 9/11? yes people are more aware of them, has Islamic views changed? yes, the religion has been demoralized and deemed evil.

But that is what propaganda has done with the minds of the people in our nation in the pursue of hidden agendas.

Nothing more and nothing else is all about wining popular opinion.

Originally posted by laiguana
Secondly I studied enough about their culture and the general treatment of life that I consider Islam to be an evil entity plaguing the earth.

Then you've either completely dismissed the peaceful half of the Qu'ran, or you've focused your studies on the extremists.

If you've actually read the Qu'ran, or anything about it, then you'd understand that it was written for specific conditions of Mohammed's time -- half of it is peaceful, the other half is violent.

Indeed, check out this thread for the article (The Moderate Martyr) about *just that* -- how there are Muslims working towards reform, working to bring back the peaceful aspects of the Muslim religion!!

This is not opinion. This is fact. (So I hope you read/hear it.)

Originally posted by ThePieMaN

Originally posted by princeofpeace
I dont fear Muslims now...in fact, i relish the chance at getting at any of them i can. Fear them? Hell no. Do i wanna destroy them? Hell yes.

Do you mind clarifying that? You "relish the chance at getting at any of them that you can"? That sounds like you are threatening muslims in general. Pretty messed up.

When they change the Koran, i will change my quote. Take it as you will. Have a nice day.

Originally posted by princeofpeace
When they change the Koran, i will change my quote. Take it as you will. Have a nice day.

princeofpeace, have you ever read the koran all the way through?
for that matter, have you ever read the bible cover to cover?

what specifically about the koran is so bad that you're willing to kill people that follow it?

Originally posted by princeofpeace

When they change the Koran, i will change my quote. Take it as you will. Have a nice day.

Well you can't be in the United States because statements like that would and should get you locked up for threats towards a race of people.

I don't fear Muslims. Before 9/11, I worked with many of them. I've been in their homes, I've eaten with them, I've partied with them, I've become friends with them. Not once did one of them try to push their religion on me. They never talked about it unless I asked about it. Nor did they ever act or speak in a way that I felt was threatening, mean, anti-Christian or anti-American. They are among the most peaceful and loving people I've ever met.

Why would I fear them?

Anyone who is threatened by or fears Muslims in general is just ignorant. There's no other possible explanation. They've bought into the myth spread by our government and they simply don't know what theyr'e talking about.

Fearing Muslims is as silly and nonsensical as fearing blacks or men or Canadians.

In the Koran it states that all peoples must be converted or should die. At least this is what the great President Amenijhad of Iran (which many folks on here seemingly adore) interprets the book as saying. It appears that he isnt alone. Peaceful people huh?

Nope didnt fear muslums before 9/11 don't fear them now. Guess im just not bigoted that way.

Originally posted by princeofpeace
In the Koran it states that all peoples must be converted or should die. At least this is what the great President Amenijhad of Iran (which many folks on here seemingly adore) interprets the book as saying. It appears that he isnt alone. Peaceful people huh?

first of all, that is NOT in the koran

secondly, the koran harbors 0 prejiduce against monotheists of other religions, why must you extend prejiduce to it as a christian?

thirdly, a head of state is hardly the person to consult in interpretation of a document (see bush jr)

fourth, you can't consider EXTREMISTS when you're looking at an overall religion

"first of all, that is NOT in the koran"

So what book is it then?

"secondly, the koran harbors 0 prejiduce against monotheists of other religions, why must you extend prejiduce to it as a christian?"

Im not prejiduce to anything unless it threatens the well-being of myself and the other citizens of my nation.

"thirdly, a head of state is hardly the person to consult in interpretation of a document (see bush jr)"

So that excuses president Armenijhad and his statements concerning exterminating a certain people HOW?

"fourth, you can't consider EXTREMISTS when you're looking at an overall religion "

I can if the peoples of that religion arent doing ANYTHING to help disuade those of their religion who are considered extremist.


Good night. Thanks for playing.

[edit on 29-12-2006 by princeofpeace]

Originally posted by princeofpeace
So what book is it then?

apparently none, because you can't back your statement up

Im not prejiduce to anything unless it threatens the well-being of myself and the other citizens of my nation.

then why don't you have a problem with EXTREMISTS instead of general islam
learn to distinguish

So that excuses president Armenijhad and his statements concerning exterminating a certain people HOW?

i'm not defending him, i'm just saying that it's the rantings of an ignorant man
as opposed to something that's just islamic

I can if the peoples of that religion arent doing ANYTHING to help disuade those of their religion who are considered extremist.

mosques in this country do a lot of preaching against terrorism
what more do you expect them to do?
go out and convert them?

You win bro. You are right in everything you say.

Originally posted by princeofpeace
I dont fear Muslims now...in fact, i relish the chance at getting at any of them i can. Fear them? Hell no. Do i wanna destroy them? Hell yes.

posting online does give some people some balls to type some BS?
question would you say that to a muslim face to face or would you just cower away? because i know what would happen if someone said that to my face and it aint pretty





for those people that want to kill me feel free to read the link in my sig for a better understanding of islam.

on note to the topic

im muslim so i cant really respond to this topic that well
but on a positive side thankfully people in the UK (almost all) arent as ignorant as most




[edit on 4-1-2007 by bodrul]

[edit on 4-1-2007 by bodrul]

Back more than several years before 9-11, even before the CIA armed Muslims fighting the soviets in Afghanistan...
back in the heyday of Anti-War/Vietnam era
I happened to run a breakfast/lunch counter in the neighborhood drug store, near the safe house on 17th & Swann St. NW, Washington D.C.
i had a group of regulars, who happened to be Muslims, mostly immigrants, who used the Cairo Hotel as their homebase
(i reckon because of language & culture links)

being inquisitive and discovering & learning at age 21, some of us talked mostly about antiwar, but most of these immigrants voiced anti-Irsaeli stuff...but the most memorable dialogues that i clearly recall is when I
was first told of the Zakaat good faith, movement of monies- -
that is when, without need of paper contracts or lending agents lawyers,
an Arab or Muslim in need of $$$ can receive the sum with only a vow,
and preferably a 3rd party involvement.
I was amazed that all the other races &/or ethnics or even some religions don't act like caucasions...
as we seem to avoid unity, brotherhood, and similar cultural bondings like a plague....
caucasions try their best to be contrary to the saying "No Man is an Island".

i had/have a culturally ingrained 'wary eye' of Muslims, Arabs and others,
probably from those stereotypical cartoons where the 'Ahab-Arab the camel trader' skulked around the oasis with a curved knife hidden in one hand...awaiting the opportunity to do a mis-deed to the unwary traveler.
but i've also been open toward their historical & exotic myth....
excepting that diabolical "man-in-the-blue-turbin" (i think it was blue & not white)
which i remember from my early readings of Nostradamus...[who I associated with the name Landis,
living in Pakistan, and in the future would be maligned as the perpetrator of 9-11]