The Liverpool FC Thread

reply to post by Freeborn




I know mate, seriously... what happened?

Is it our disposable society just replicated in Football or is it the desire for instant, unattainable success?


It's scary man.


Apparently the Wigan chairman has given permission for Roberto Martinez to speak to Liverpool's owners.
Was reading it somewhere earlier... although I'm sure much like speaking to Villas-Boas, it's just them getting their bearings and seeing what these people have to offer.

Although Martinez is a very charming man, wouldn't surprise me if he talked his way into the job.... he has passion, enthusiasm and got Swansea playing nice football a while back.

I dunno.

I just want someone.... someone who will be there and do a great job.

He's not my choice... not at all, but hey... when does that come into it? He fits the profile of what FSG are looking for so it certainly wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't manager by Monday.

I'm holding out for a hero (as Bonnie Tyler said) though

Also (if anyone is interested) I came across this thread the other day.
One of the best, most interesting and bizarre threads I've read in a while..... It's on RAWK and at the bottom of the thread there is a link through to read all comments on the thread.... that discussion is also fascinating and excellent.


Enjoy


www.redandwhitekop.com...

Kevin Keegan, anyone?

I feel like an outsider commenting on this (but not so much so considering the owners), and I know he's been here, there, and everywhere...

He's far from young, but I think he has ties to the club that might manifest itself in passion for LFC.

Would you want to see him as manager? Yes? No? Pros/Cons?

I just visited this thread and looked down at my keyboard and somebody has robbed the return key.

reply to post by michael1983l


You, Sir, are hilarious.

So looking highly likely that it will be Martinez.... I kinda said a few days ago that he'd charm his way into the job.

We'll see I guess.


Oh well.

reply to post by blupblup


They've decided to go for Brendan Rodgers in the end.

Not everyone's choice I'm sure but he's young, ambitious and innovative and who believes football should be played the right way.

I'm pleased a young British manager has been given the chance to manage one of the top teams not just in the UK or Europe but in the world.

He faces a difficult task but he seems up for it, as he should be.

I noticed he said he 'will fight for his life' to being success to Liverpool, well, I don't think committment has ever been the problem, certainly not with Dalglish or Rafa, it's that extra something else they've been lacking - let's hope he get's a fair crack of the whip and both the fans and the board give him enough time and support to deliver.

reply to post by Freeborn




I totally agree mate.... not everyone's choice at all but I'm hoping the fans (and I know they will) will welcome him and give him all the support and time he needs.

The press keep plugging that he learnt from Mourinho and has studied with the best and so on... and The "special One" has even come out backing Rodgers... always makes me laugh.

But yes... he's Young, British and likes to play decent, passing football. Ticks all the boxes really.

Our season/future will now ultimately depend on what we do with the deadwood and who we bring in.
It will be interesting to see because from what I've been reading FSG are not happy (and who blames them) the the money spent and calibre of players we bought and have decided to make the process of picking targets and buying players a much more thorough and complex one, with 3 people deciding and having a say.... not sure how Rodgers feels about that but we'll see.

I wish him all the best and can only hope his passion rubs off on some of the players that have been coasting along, not really too bothered.

reply to post by blupblup


I was reading where Rodgers said that he refused to work with a Director Of Football and that they are forming a 'committee'.

"That [a director of football] was something I made clear I couldn't work with," added Rodgers. "What you need is an outstanding team. We will form a technical board that will have four or five people that will decide the way forward."

www.bbc.co.uk...

I'm not a great fan of committee's as such but that could be workable.

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Well I guess he got it sorted the way he wanted, he wouldn't be here if he didn't.
We'll see how it all works out man.

At least we have A manager now.... just need to sort the squad out a little I guess.

I like that he said everyone will get a chance, Including Cole and Aquilani... both very technically good players and good with the ball... will be interesting to see how the team takes shape over the coming months, I'm quite excited actually.

More just that we have a manager really.

Time will tell

I'm pleased with Rodgers! i'd have chosen him over Martinez without a doubt, I wasn't keen on Martinez at all.

i'm looking forward to next season, we just need to see what we can do with signings now and hopefully Brendan will get us playing some nice football and out the habit of passing in our own half for most of the game!

I want to see this guy given some time.

And by that I don't mean months, I mean years.

Sadly, it seems that some sections of Liverpool fans have been infected with the cancer that is calling for someones head after a few months in charge.

There is a new reality in football however, and that is that the money isn't going to last forever, and also that spending a fortune doesn't always equal sucess - I think we found that out the hard way this year.

However you only have to look at Newcastle and Pardew - he made a team and bought in some very shrewd signings. Moyes has done the same at Everton.

That having been said, Liverpool's season died when Lucas was injured. Before we sold Mascherano we had a "master" (Masch) and an understudy (Lucas) - Lucas stepped up to fill the gap but Spearing, Henderson and Shelvey aren't up to speed. That ACL literally cost us the top 4 and maybe more.

What we desperately need to sign is a decent holding midfielder to back Lucas up, a replacement for Carra (who needs to go on the staff, and Rogers should consider that), two wide men and a decent striker (or bring one into the first team out of the ranks and blood them at every available opportunity) We also need to have in mind that Gerrad's form this year was poor by his standards, and he's getting older.

Read this and meant to post it yesterday.

It made me LOL

newsthump.com...

The Future...

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I hope you guys pick up Clint Dempsey. I realize he is not a technical whiz but he has a great knack for scoring goals out of the midfield. Also it looks like maybe Newcastle is going to get Andy Caroll back for quite the reduction in price...

CJ

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thats not what cost ye top 4 the teams above ye are better

Originally posted by ColoradoJens
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I hope you guys pick up Clint Dempsey. I realize he is not a technical whiz but he has a great knack for scoring goals out of the midfield. Also it looks like maybe Newcastle is going to get Andy Caroll back for quite the reduction in price...

CJ

Actually he wouldn't be a bad signing... if he can replicate his form of last couple of seasons and hit the ground running, for £5m-6m he would be a good signing, short term but that isn't a bad thing.


And to be honest, we just need to get rid of Andy Carroll ASAP..... the guy is one of the worst players I've seen in a Liverpool shirt and I was totally against signing him in the first place.

£35m??? We could have bought any striker in the world for that (Messi, Ronaldo and a few others aside) and proven goalscorers too.

We are the laughing stock of the league in terms of transfers and have been for 2 seasons now.

That seems to be changing under Rodgers and I hope it continues.

He cannot be blamed for wanting to sell Carroll or whatever loss we take on Carroll.
We were never going to make a profit for the kind of money we paid for him and if the manager doesn't think he can play in his system (which requires skill, movement, pace and fluid passing, and Carroll clearly lacks in all those areas) then he MUST sell him and use the money to buy players he sees playing in his system.

I think Kenny and Damien both had to go after we wasted so much money on mediocre players during their short time in charge of transfers.

If Rodgers had that kind of money now... we would be laughing.

Oh well

Onwards and upwards.

Oh. My. God.

Didn't realise this thread was going on. Now my favourite on ATS!

Lifelong Liverpool fan. There in 89 when Michael Thomas scored in injury time to cost us the title. Cried all the way home!

Anyhoo, I like Andy Carroll. I think it is a shame that he doesn't even appear to be getting a chance to show Brendan Rodgers if he could adapt his game or not. KD had already started that process and it showed like it was starting to pay dividends. That said though, i am thoroughly impressed with Rodgers so far.

Not convinced by Clint Dempsey. He is a good player but i cannot see him having another season like last one (based on the fact he hasn't managed it before, at the age of 29).

Lets face it, we aren't going to win the title this season and Rodgers is building for the future. I would like to see Raheem Sterling, Suso and Texeiria given a chance this season, alongside more playing time for Shelvey. I think these players can really develop into something special.

I also wouldn't knock Henderson too much. He wasn't great last season but equally he wasn't bad. He can hit a pass and he has bags of energy. Watch him develop this season under the style of play Rodgers likes.

We definitely need another striker though. Borini will prove to be an excellent signing. He is all about movement and tap ins, exactly what we need. Together with Suarez up front, the movement will be potentially very frightening for defenders.

All in all, i am very hopeful for the future. Realistically though, Champions League may be beyond us this year. The future is very bright though.

Originally posted by blupblup

Originally posted by ColoradoJens
reply to post by blupblup

 

I hope you guys pick up Clint Dempsey. I realize he is not a technical whiz but he has a great knack for scoring goals out of the midfield. Also it looks like maybe Newcastle is going to get Andy Caroll back for quite the reduction in price...

CJ

Actually he wouldn't be a bad signing... if he can replicate his form of last couple of seasons and hit the ground running, for £5m-6m he would be a good signing, short term but that isn't a bad thing.


And to be honest, we just need to get rid of Andy Carroll ASAP..... the guy is one of the worst players I've seen in a Liverpool shirt and I was totally against signing him in the first place.

£35m??? We could have bought any striker in the world for that (Messi, Ronaldo and a few others aside) and proven goalscorers too.

We are the laughing stock of the league in terms of transfers and have been for 2 seasons now.

That seems to be changing under Rodgers and I hope it continues.

He cannot be blamed for wanting to sell Carroll or whatever loss we take on Carroll.
We were never going to make a profit for the kind of money we paid for him and if the manager doesn't think he can play in his system (which requires skill, movement, pace and fluid passing, and Carroll clearly lacks in all those areas) then he MUST sell him and use the money to buy players he sees playing in his system.

I think Kenny and Damien both had to go after we wasted so much money on mediocre players during their short time in charge of transfers.

If Rodgers had that kind of money now... we would be laughing.

Oh well

Onwards and upwards.

Tomorrow sees the release of the Independant Commissions findings.

The families of the 96 will be advised by Michael Mansfield QC and Lord Falconer, two giants of Law that have generously given their time and expertise free of charge.

It's time the for lies, corruption and cover ups to stop, and for Justice to prevail so that the families and loved ones of the victims can find some semblance of peace and closure.