Why have we not gone back to MOON since we landed on it?

Salt of the Earth...

Meaning - Those of great worth and reliability....

Surely a bit of a paradox there? Never change my friend - you are why I love this site sometimes

reply to post by pedetemptim


Well said!

Now I gotta go get my chainsaw and "debunk" 2 oak trees that fell in the backyard due to a satanic ice conspiracy.

Wow, thank you. You're better than a real avatar!

I used to post here all the time, hundreds and hundreds of posts, I lost my points as fast as I earned them!

But who needs points when people like you say such nice things about me!

Hint: If you want to rack up points, do NOT go on the Freemasons sites because you will get on some serious bad lists if you do.

Moon landing debunkers aren't that popular either.

Oh, well. My dream is to someday have my own avatar. Wonder what it will be.

I don´t think we´ve been there in the first place, not as they claim anyway. The technology wasn´t available in the 70´s the same as it isn´t today thats why we arn´t going there.

We can´t get through the Van Allen belts without dying.

reply to post by bicnarok


The Van Allen hypothesis has been debunked so many times it's not worth posting sources (though I will if necessary). Van Allen himself never made such a claim...only conspiracy buffs do.

All I'm concerned about is when will we actually have PROOF (images/videos) that we went to the Moon?

I'm not convinced by what NASA has been feeding the public. If you do believe that we've been to the moon then you're relying on nothing but faith.

I'm firmly on the fence until the day comes (if it EVER comes) that we have SOLID PROOF of our visits to the moon.

When is one of these days likely to occur? because the more I learn about the moon landings, the more suspicious I get.

Wow, this thread has really jumped the shark...

The moon landing conspiracy is a topic all it's own...

Given the level of Soviet penetration of our complete intelligence network at the time, had we actually faked the moon landings, they would have pulled our pants down in front of the whole world and laughed their tails off...

Cooper and Schneider? These guys have long threads all their own, where you can read the details of the lives and deaths of these two characters...

About the only reason I could see for returning to the moon is if we are going forward with using it as a jumping off place for further exploration. I'd love to see it happen in my lifetime....

Originally posted by griffinrl
reply to post by bicnarok

 

The Van Allen hypothesis has been debunked so many times it's not worth posting sources (though I will if necessary). Van Allen himself never made such a claim...only conspiracy buffs do.

Van Allen wasn't publishing his scientific observations about the Van Allen belts for the purpose of clearing up questions about the moon landing. His intent was pure science.

But his science tells us that the radiation is so huge that nothing could get through it. The shuttle crews have experienced it going up only 100 miles. They close their eyes and see sparks. I don't believe we can even get an unmanned satellite through it. I think the space probes are a lie also. I also think the Hubbell telescope is a piece of junk and we can get a better picture of the moon with a pair of binoculars than what the Hubbell can capture.

Not only that, but space is a perfect vacuum. Once the sun hits the ship, it will heat it up. The astroNOTs will be crispy critters by the time they get to the moon. Moon chips. You know? Like how a vacuum bottle works to keep your coffee hot. The sun hits the ship, no wind, no air, nothing to dissipate that heat, and it just sucks it up and it just stays there, hotter and hotter.

The whole thing was a giant scam, not to win the Cold War as Bart Sibrel claims, but to convince the world population that interplanetary travel is possible because the plan has always been to pawn off demons and chimeras as Masters of the Universe coming to visit from some planet light years away.

Satan is a liar and a deceiver. I see these people like magicians at a magic show. If you don't know you're watching a magic show you'd think it was all real. They are playing with us. It's all a big scam to get us to do their bidding, to live in a self-imposed cage or prison created in our own minds through their lies and deceit.

Space is NOT a perfect vacuum. Do a little more research.

reply to post by blobby


OP, with respect how do you know that we haven't been back to the moon? The first moon-landings were heavily publicised due to the cold war, with that threat now over (possibly?!?!!) they don't need to be quite so public about their space exploration programme.

I doubt we ever went to the moon in the first place...If we did, I'll pose your question again- Why didn't we go back to the moon?

Countless NASA tapes of Astronauts saying they say "bogeys" and "ufo's" near the moon. It's clear that we weren't supposed to be there.

I sincerely doubt we were ever there.

[edit on 2/18/2009 by AceOfAces]

Originally posted by griffinrl
Space is NOT a perfect vacuum. Do a little more research.

Right, it's full of plenum.

But it's more perfect than your thermos bottle, that's for sure. Perfect enough so the spacecraft would just collect the heat with no way to dissipate it.

Originally posted by 0010110011101
reply to post by blobby

 

OP, with respect how do you know that we haven't been back to the moon? The first moon-landings were heavily publicised due to the cold war, with that threat now over (possibly?!?!!) they don't need to be quite so public about their space exploration programme.

The moon landings were hoaxed, with the knowledge and cooperatin of the Russians, not to win any Cold War (as Bart Sibrel theorizes) but rather to convince the world that interplantary travel is possible, to prepare the world to believe the Illuminati liars when they pull off their alien invasion hoax and tell us we are being visited by some "Masters of the Universe" -- and at Armageddon the nations will be gathered together to fight God the Bible says. Can you imagine that? Only if they are told they are being invaded by hostile "aliens" could the Satanic leadership pull that caper off.

Outer space is the closest natural approximation of a perfect vacuum. It has effectively no friction, allowing stars, planets and moons to move freely along ideal gravitational trajectories. But no vacuum is truly perfect, not even in intergalactic space where there are still a few hydrogen atoms per cubic centimeter. (For comparison, the air we breathe contains about 1019 molecules per cubic centimeter.)

All of the observable universe is filled with large numbers of photons, the so-called cosmic background radiation, and quite likely a correspondingly large number of neutrinos. The current temperature of this radiation is about 3 K (−270.15 °C; −454.27 °F).

Taken from Wikipedia....probably another Luciferian, Satanic, Masonic tactic LOL

In order for there to one day be a conclusion to all this speculation and deliberation regarding our visit to the moon, I would just like to know if someone could tell me when we're likely to get satellite imagery (or some other form of evidence) that would once and for all prove our disprove our visits there?

If someone could enlighten me of when this day is likely to occur I would be extremely grateful so that I can mark it on my wall calendar and look forward to the days arrival.

Thank you.

[edit on 18-2-2009 by The Blind Watchmaker]

Originally posted by The Blind Watchmaker
In order for there to one day be a conclusion to all this speculation and deliberation regarding our visit to the moon, I would just like to know if someone could tell me when we're likely to get satellite imagery (or some other form of evidence) that would once and for all prove our disprove our visits there?

If someone could enlighten me of when this day is likely to occur I would be extremely grateful so that I can mark it on my wall calendar and look forward to the days arrival.

Thank you.

[edit on 18-2-2009 by The Blind Watchmaker]

If NASA came up with some pictures of moon junk left behind, the flag, whatever, I wouldn't believe it. They already have a pile of fake pictures taken at Disney Studios. Why should we believe one single word they tell us about ANYTHING!

They are all liars, frauds. Some of the people are compartmentalized and don't know they work for frauds. They keep themselves busy with the space shuttle, a complete waste of time. I doubt they have any unmanned craft of any kind they can get past the Van Allen belts. Their Hubble is a joke, the pictures from Hubble are virtual reality, just stuff Hubble is telling we would see if we could see according to what the computer input is.

As they say with computers it's garbage in, garbage out. Right?

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"As they say with computers it's garbage in, garbage out. Right?"

Finally a rational post

[edit on 18-2-2009 by griffinrl]

Originally posted by griffinrl
reply to post by Salt of the Earth

 

Finally a rational post

[edit on 18-2-2009 by griffinrl]

Thanks for the "compliment."

Is that your nice way of saying you don't agree that the vacuum in space is far more of a vacuum than what you'll find in a thermos bottle?

You telling me space is not a perfect vacuum, nor not a vacuum at all?

And if it's not a perfect vacuum but still a pretty darned good vacuum, are you saying you don't believe that a vacuum (even if imperfect) makes a perfect insulator?

So when the sun hits that spaceship and the molecules start moving faster and faster, and there is nothing but a vacuum there, insulating all that heat -- you're saying those astroNOTs are not going to toast away?

I enjoy this site. It is one of the few place in the world you will find actual people who still think the moon landings were faked.

If you do actually think they were faked then you have more problems than fake moon landings.

Now I want to talk to you about a bridge I happen to have for sale.

It's as perfect a vacuum as you can find in nature for sure. We definately agree on the vacuum part. But nothing was faked as far as the moon landings go nor space travel.

Put it this way.....I have a Nissan Xterra 4WD. I have no idea how the transmission works in it but I do know it's not magic nor fairies or demons. Nor is it a conspiracy. My lack of understanding doesn't automatically mean it's a deception nor does it imply a superior power or being.

The bottom line is that you refuse to accept any evidence whatsoever. And if evidence is produced then it's obviously faked just to deceive you. That's ego and pride and last I checked pride is a sin. The beauty of science and exploration is that it doesn't care whether you believe or not. Progress still advances