Russian vs. USA Tech

The US military budget is more than six times larger than the Russian budget.

Based on this fact, tell me which nation probably has the more advanced toys..

Russia deosn't use 40% on military! And I NEVER said Russia is at the SAME military power as US!!

I said Russia has GOOD TECH and I said Russia is BEHIND US militarly!

Having GOOD TECH and BIGGEST MILITARY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!

Also my country is FIXING its self up! Thats way they AREN'T the BIGGEST military power!!!!

Now let me ask you a question!

How old are you?!


Can you READ my posts?!

Very bold statement Russian. But, you are comming across like you want to prove Russia is "better" by stating your Millitary Tech. (we all know this means Technology right??). What you should be doing is pointing to WHY your better instead of making statements that come across as being an A-HOLE.

1. Show me something that proves your country doesnt spend 40% on its Military.

These are all quotes from RUSSIAN in just this one thread.

2. Sorry i THINK i GOT SectorGaza and maybe Fulcrum onmy side for the Russian Tech.

Already "WAR LIKE". So lets see, your the AXIS of evil and were the ALLIES. We win.

3. There is alot of very nice Russian tech we can bash the US with.!

To your credit, this statement had nice smily faces and such but your still talking out of both sides of your A_HOLE.

4. Sorry you got one thing wrong. some of their stuff is almost better than our stuff.
not almost way

See #2

5. So theefore the Russian is better..

What the hell is an American going to say to this comment?? Duhhh. See, this is the point, your all about "WAR" and claiming your turf. So, when we protect our turf you want to claim us being too young and not reading your stupid contradicting posts. I would say, HOW OLD ARE YOU, SIR!!

6. What do you people thing of F-16 vs the Mig-29.
or is that not a fair battle.
the mig is about 8 years younger.

Pay close attention to the "8 years younger" type statement. Basically Russian, what are you trying to say, the Mig-29 is so much better cuz its new or what exactly are you saying here. You seem to use this alot, "younger" to explain something. Are you trying to be funny??

7. All you US tech lovers do you have anything to say?
OMG
thats a very scary weapon.
even the US tech shut up

Here again you display your warm and loving Russian spirit for the US.

8. I can go on, and on, and on,,,,

I think you get the point. Just be a little more diplomatic and dont think one bit that when you attack (thats what it is) a country, some of those same people wont attack back, and harder.

You know the saying................
some japanese guy said "Dont wake the sleeping giant" or something like that.

Originally posted by Russian
The t-72 werent even build in Russia.

Thats right, mostly at least..

As these were build IN Iraq and IN Yugoslavia (these were M-84s)..

But i think that Iraqis did have also some Soviet made T-72s.. export versions..

Originally posted by Russian
And Iraqis dont even know how to fight with tanks.

Even during Iran-Iraq war.. Iraqi tankers that had T-62s (and other new Soviet tanks..) didnt know how to operate T-62s fire control systems.. but instead just used optical aiming only.. (manual, direct fire..)

And also their commaders didnt know anything about modern and mobile warfare..

Originally posted by Russian
I know I said that we are talking on tech here but dont know #!

They are plain STUPID!

Whos that?

Originally posted by hoochymama
Russia deosn't use 40% on military! And I NEVER said Russia is at the SAME military power as US!!

I said Russia has GOOD TECH and I said Russia is BEHIND US militarly!

Having GOOD TECH and BIGGEST MILITARY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!

Also my country is FIXING its self up! Thats way they AREN'T the BIGGEST military power!!!!

Now let me ask you a question!

How old are you?!


Can you READ my posts?!

Very bold statement Russian. But, you are comming across like you want to prove Russia is "better" by stating your Millitary Tech. (we all know this means Technology right??). What you should be doing is pointing to WHY your better instead of making statements that come across as being an A-HOLE.

1. Show me something that proves your country doesnt spend 40% on its Military.

These are all quotes from RUSSIAN in just this one thread.

2. Sorry i THINK i GOT SectorGaza and maybe Fulcrum onmy side for the Russian Tech.

Already "WAR LIKE". So lets see, your the AXIS of evil and were the ALLIES. We win.

3. There is alot of very nice Russian tech we can bash the US with.!

To your credit, this statement had nice smily faces and such but your still talking out of both sides of your A_HOLE.

4. Sorry you got one thing wrong. some of their stuff is almost better than our stuff.
not almost way

See #2

5. So theefore the Russian is better..

What the hell is an American going to say to this comment?? Duhhh. See, this is the point, your all about "WAR" and claiming your turf. So, when we protect our turf you want to claim us being too young and not reading your stupid contradicting posts. I would say, HOW OLD ARE YOU, SIR!!

6. What do you people thing of F-16 vs the Mig-29.
or is that not a fair battle.
the mig is about 8 years younger.

Pay close attention to the "8 years younger" type statement. Basically Russian, what are you trying to say, the Mig-29 is so much better cuz its new or what exactly are you saying here. You seem to use this alot, "younger" to explain something. Are you trying to be funny??

7. All you US tech lovers do you have anything to say?
OMG
thats a very scary weapon.
even the US tech shut up

Here again you display your warm and loving Russian spirit for the US.

8. I can go on, and on, and on,,,,

I think you get the point. Just be a little more diplomatic and dont think one bit that when you attack (thats what it is) a country, some of those same people wont attack back, and harder.

You know the saying................
some japanese guy said "Dont wake the sleeping giant" or something like that.

IF YOU DONT LIKE MY STYLE THEN GOT # YOURSELF!

I DONT GIVE A # IF YOU DONT LIKE MY STYLE!

SO # OFF!

Originally posted by Maverick
The US military budget is more than six times larger than the Russian budget.

Based on this fact, tell me which nation probably has the more advanced toys..

It doesnt only depend on money!

It depends on people!

Russia has some smart people in there!

And they just dont get paid as much as in US!

Relax.

Sorry if that was too much.

Anyway, how bout I go find our great American TECH (as you call it) and Ill be right back to kick your RUssian TECH (as you call it) A_HOLES>

Originally posted by Maverick
The US military budget is more than six times larger than the Russian budget.

Based on this fact, tell me which nation probably has the more advanced toys..

G.Is eat beef and hamburgers..

Every day.. 2 times a day..

There goes half of your defence fund..

Originally posted by FULCRUM

Originally posted by Russian
I know I said that we are talking on tech here but dont know #!

They are plain STUPID!

Whos that?

I was saying that Iraqis are plain STUPID!

Buy good weapons and use they like the old ones!

Originally posted by hoochymama
Relax.

Sorry if that was too much.

Anyway, how bout I go find our great American TECH (as you call it) and Ill be right back to kick your RUssian TECH (as you call it) A_HOLES>

as I said before.

THERE IS GOOD WEAPONS ON BOTH SIDES!

anyway research will be good for you!

G.Is eat beef and hamburgers..

Every day.. 2 times a day..

There goes half of your defence fund..




HAHAHA

Russia has some smart people in there!


This I agree with. You should of started right there from the begining. I once worked with a Russian dude who was smarter than anyone I have met since. Very cool guy. The sorry part is he was a computer sceintist in Russia and studied Math and when he came to the US he ended up working in a Plastics Molding Plant. He would sit at the machine and do equations all day.

Originally posted by Maverick

G.Is eat beef and hamburgers..

Every day.. 2 times a day..

There goes half of your defence fund..




HAHAHA

why you dont like it?

plus look at the comfort level they have.

Originally posted by FULCRUM

Originally posted by Maverick
The US military budget is more than six times larger than the Russian budget.

Based on this fact, tell me which nation probably has the more advanced toys..

G.Is eat beef and hamburgers..

Every day.. 2 times a day..

There goes half of your defence fund..

Sometimes I wonder about you Fulcrum......
Even at HALF, the US still has THREE times your budget!


regards
seekerof

Originally posted by hoochymama
Russia has some smart people in there!


This I agree with. You should of started right there from the begining. I once worked with a Russian dude who was smarter than anyone I have met since. Very cool guy. The sorry part is he was a computer sceintist in Russia and studied Math and when he came to the US he ended up working in a Plastics Molding Plant. He would sit at the machine and do equations all day.

Thats just one.

Most others stayed there and are helping build it.

Originally posted by Seekerof

Originally posted by FULCRUM

Originally posted by Maverick
The US military budget is more than six times larger than the Russian budget.

Based on this fact, tell me which nation probably has the more advanced toys..

G.Is eat beef and hamburgers..

Every day.. 2 times a day..

There goes half of your defence fund..

Sometimes I wonder about you Fulcrum......
Even at HALF, the US still has THREE times your budget!

regards
seekerof

plus the comfort!

thats another 2/3!

So it ends up the same when you take all that out!

Originally posted by Russian

I was saying that Iraqis are plain STUPID!

Buy good weapons and use they like the old ones!

This isnt totally true..

The reason why this happened.. having 80s weapons and using them by 40s manner is because of Saddam..

He wanted good weapons but didnt want to train his people to be too good in using them as:

If they knew how to fully exploit these weapons..

Saddam and his secret police force etc.. would have been sitting ducks for them..

Iraqs army officers tryed many times to kill Saddam.. and take over..

And Saddams men did kill lots of these people.. some times seemingly just for the fun of it.. or because they were paranoid..

Paronoid that Army would over throw em..

Originally posted by Russian

Originally posted by Maverick

G.Is eat beef and hamburgers..

Every day.. 2 times a day..

There goes half of your defence fund..

HAHAHA

why you dont like it?

plus look at the comfort level they have.




No, i just thought it was amusing. Half , haha. Only 18.7 billion of it is allocated to personel.

You're just reaching for things to make your country look better, while im giving the un-bias facts.

[Edited on 12/2/2003 by Maverick]

Originally posted by Maverick

Originally posted by Russian

Originally posted by Maverick

G.Is eat beef and hamburgers..

Every day.. 2 times a day..

There goes half of your defence fund..

HAHAHA

why you dont like it?

plus look at the comfort level they have.




No, i just thought it was amusing. Half , haha. Only 18.7 billion of it is allocated to personel.

You're just reaching for things to make your country look better, while im giving the un-bias facts.

[Edited on 12/2/2003 by Maverick]

If you didnt catch it.

it was just a JOKE!

Originally posted by FULCRUM

Originally posted by Russian

I was saying that Iraqis are plain STUPID!

Buy good weapons and use they like the old ones!

This isnt totally true..

The reason why this happened.. having 80s weapons and using them by 40s manner is because of Saddam..

He wanted good weapons but didnt want to train his people to be too good in using them as:

If they knew how to fully exploit these weapons..

Saddam and his secret police force etc.. would have been sitting ducks for them..

Iraqs army officers tryed many times to kill Saddam.. and take over..

And Saddams men did kill lots of these people.. some times seemingly just for the fun of it.. or because they were paranoid..

Paronoid that Army would over throw em..

thats kind of what i said.

I said that they use new weapons like old weapons but i didnt give the reasoning.

ok , thought so.. hard to tell through text >.