Baseball: Report says Bonds got steroids

a report out today says that Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi, Gary Sheffield and other major leaguers received steroids and human growth hormone according to the san francisco chronicle
sports.yahoo.com...;_ylc=X3o'___'Bpbmdmam0wBF9TAzI1NjY0ODI1BHNlYwN0bQ--?slug=ap-athletes-steroids&prov=ap&type=lgns

if true this is a sad day for baseball and all sports

It says that they recevied them but did they take them that is the questions.


(this is a good debate topic) if you get two sides.

o boy this situation just doesnt seem to stop does it. I hope that for the sake of baseball he didnt take any of these

Originally posted by hawkeye8424:

It says that they recevied them but did they take them that is the questions.

It's kind of hard to believe, if they took them, they wouldn't take them.

It's like why receive knowingly receive these illegal substances if you're just going to store them in the cupboard somewhere.

why dont they just test every player

I hope that they do test them because that MLB needs to take some kindof action with this.

Just so you guys know, I am against steroids, but you have to look at it this way: Steroids may not be that bad for the game of Baseball. When Bonds hit 73 HR, the baseball audience grew immensely. There is now excitement with these HR hitters. People like bonds, Giambi, Thome, Sheffield and others bring people to the game. I would much rather have a world series like the D-Backs and yankees where people were hitting HR to win the game and tie it up, than watch people just get a bunch of base hits just to score two or three runs. HR's just make the game more exciting, but that's my opinion... what do you think?

But steriods give the players an unfair advantage over the players that dont want to do that harm to themselve.s

Originally posted by Ben
But steriods give the players an unfair advantage over the players that dont want to do that harm to themselve.s

Correct..

It's a unfair advantage.

Players do it to be the best and earn the most money so its for personal gain,they don't give a damm about the fans.

steriods give you some very bad features that i dont wanna even think about. And the players they do take them are hurting the game. There are other ways of hitting the ball farther than just steriods.

with the modern nuitrition and training regimens, players are bigger, faster, and stronger than ever before, there is no place in baseball for steroids, if people want to see nothing but homers i'm sure they can come up with a robot that will hit 150 home runs a year.

Im sure that they can figure that one out. But your right tj, there are so much more nutrition supplements that there actaully is no need for steriods, the other supplements out there just require you to do more work to keep big, and fast.

i'm kinda hoping that Bonds did take steroids; if it was some noname that did do you think they would take as much action?

Originally posted by Cannon
i'm kinda hoping that Bonds did take steroids; if it was some noname that did do you think they would take as much action?

care to explain?

Say a minor leaguer or relatively unproven rookie was proven to have taken steroids. In all probabilities, the most that would be made of it would be people saying "hell, he probably was just under a lot of pressure to get as big as he could to stay in/make the majors" and some wrist-slap of a suspension or minor fine would be handed down.

No biggie, forgotten as soon as it surfaces.

Now, say that a big-time future hall-of-famer, who many claim is one of or is outright the greatest slugger of all time is proven to have taken steroids....uhoh >_

baseball has a tougher minor league steroid testing program, largely because the minor leagers don't have the players union to cover up for them, the rate of steroid use in the minors has dropped from 9% to about 4% since this policy was enacted

Minor league players are subject to four random tests each year. Players are suspended without pay for 15 days upon their first offense. (Major league first-time offenders receive only counseling, and their status as an illegal drug user remains confidential

here is a link to an excellant article on steroids in baseball

sports.yahoo.com...

I think its more of a slap to the big names because they are more of a role model. And have more of an impact on the leauge. And have those record breaking season. And maybe if they werent taking steroids those records wouldnt have been broken.

are we really this blind these guys are big babies there are really only a hand full who love baseball for the LOVE OF THE GAME like i do it is all about money now let's get real 1milliom 15 million what is the differance really could you live off 1 million hell yes these guys are making it impossible to take my son to a ball game o it is the owners fault too there needs to be a salary cap just like football..... also if they didn't have anything to hide they would agree to a drug test once a month at random i have to at work so why not them i have nothing to hide so what is their excuse????????? my opinion what is yours?

I think that all the players int he leauge are hiding something, wether it is now or it was in the past they are all probably guility of doing something at some point. PLayers int he old days like Ruth had records and those records werent supposed to be broken. To hit that many homers in a season is hard but it is even hard to hit those at the age of 40. That just sticks out to me that something is worng.