Man survives decades without food or water!

Originally posted by darklanser
It's almost like he denied the reality of needing to eat. I heard about a Hindu man last year that claimed to survive only on sunshine and air. It was later proven to be a hoax.

what happened when it got dark ?

Originally posted by NotTooHappy
Man, no food or drink, that guys life sucks.

How do u know big boiiiii?

Second line...

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Hmm to everyone on this thread who is so amazed I have some land on the moon for sale only problem it is on the dark side but I am sure that is not problem.



Just like the Guy who says he is Jesus it is all lies. Thankfully for people like this stupidity is no short supply and they can pull the wool even over the sheep's eyes.

I find it simply incredible that so many people allow themselves to be taken in by this sort of completely unsubstantiated drivel and even more so allow themselves to believe that ANY human could survive for more than a few weeks without food and water ... let alone 70 years !

What the heck do you people use for a rationality filter ? Obviously not too much

This report is nothing more than complete bollocks and just watch it fade away into obscurity after a few more days of 'fake' sensationalism.

Originally posted by afoolbyanyothername
I find it simply incredible that so many people allow themselves to be taken in by this sort of completely unsubstantiated drivel and even more so allow themselves to believe that ANY human could survive for more than a few weeks without food and water ... let alone 70 years !

What the heck do you people use for a rationality filter ? Obviously not too much

This report is nothing more than complete bollocks and just watch it fade away into obscurity after a few more days of 'fake' sensationalism.

When you have people clinically dead, and come back to life, then surely this is possible ^^

Thanks for your rationalism.. Good to know people like you still exists.. I guess in your world everything is in a fixed state.. Where you apparently know everything lol

Originally posted by oozyism

Originally posted by afoolbyanyothername
I find it simply incredible that so many people allow themselves to be taken in by this sort of completely unsubstantiated drivel and even more so allow themselves to believe that ANY human could survive for more than a few weeks without food and water ... let alone 70 years !

What the heck do you people use for a rationality filter ? Obviously not too much

This report is nothing more than complete bollocks and just watch it fade away into obscurity after a few more days of 'fake' sensationalism.

When you have people clinically dead, and come back to life, then surely this is possible ^^

Thanks for your rationalism.. Good to know people like you still exists.. I guess in your world everything is in a fixed state.. Where you apparently know everything lol

What ????? clinically dead is NOT equatable to an alleged and completely unsubstantiated report of an extremely extended human existence without any form of sustenance being ingested and then furthermore to credit his miraculous survival to a religious belief ... the fact that you're even prepared to give a moments consideration to such irrationality is a prime example of why I made my previous post.
Too many people are sucked in by such drivel and are apparently more than happy to suspend or turn off their personal inbuilt rationality filter that allows them to immediately determine whether something is either credible and has a possibility of occurring ... or whether something is patently and obviously impossible ... as in this report.



[edit on 29-4-2010 by afoolbyanyothername]

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What does clinically dead mean lol..

I'm here to discuss here, let's see where this goes

Edit: let's make the discussion interesting:

A moments thought should bring the realization that this absolute limit of statistics and science renders all "scientific proof", as well as subjective feelings, that nothing exists beyond our perception into feeble "philosophic arguments". Despite what science might claim to have "proven", and despite what we might "feel", about what lies beyond our ability to observe, we cannot say anything objective about that which is beyond human perception. We may create mathematical models of what should lie somewhere just beyond observation, yet without a means of testing these projections they can never be more than idle speculation. We simply cannot say that it is likely, or not likely, that a "world" or "worlds" exist beyond the physical world in which we live. From an analytical standpoint anything, or nothing, may exist beyond human cognition

Keep reading, let's see if I can open your mind:

Human beings are limited to observing the effects of fundamental forces on matter and energy, and must draw conclusions based only on such observations. We can never "view" the forces themselves, forces whose metaphysical existence and purpose transcend human observation and comprehension. One of the consequences of being only a small part of the universe in which we live is the absolute fact that, unless revealed to us by the whole, we can never know if something or someone exists beyond the limits of our senses. No one, not you nor I nor the smartest person on earth can determine whether or not anything exists beyond that which we can observe. It follows that we cannot know if someone or something beyond our ability to perceive can and will alter the laws which govern our world.

Let's keep it interesting ^^

[edit on 29-4-2010 by oozyism]

Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by afoolbyanyothername

 

What does clinically dead mean lol..

I'm here to discuss here, let's see where this goes

My understanding of the term 'clinically dead' is in reference to a heart that is no longer beating and the cessation of breathing BUT there is still a measurable and discernible EEG trace.
Every day, there must be literally 100's (and possibly 1000's) of people around the world who are pronounced 'clinically dead' but are successfully revived.

But not once has there EVER been a reported, documented and verified instance of a human surviving longer than a few weeks without ANY form of solid and/or liquid nourishment being ingested.
Too believe otherwise that such a condition is possible is nothing more than wishful thinking at best and delusional at worst.

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That's my point buddy: Just for the idiots, here it goes again:

If impossible is possible, then why is impossible, impossible?

I can't believe I'm wasting my time with individuals like you.

ZZzz

On the other hand.....

".....he has also been dismissed by others as a "village fraud."

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/e85a19336ef1.jpg[/atsimg]

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Exactly......he's a fraud.

This is a hoax.

It is totally impossible this guy hasn't eaten or drunk for 70 years.

If the Indian Dr looking after him makes any claims to that effect, he is doing it because he craves attention & publicity.

For interest's sake & convenience, I have inserted another article (below) that is is the subject of another current thread about this guy.

Man 'hasn't eaten, drunk in 70 years

14:00 AEST Thu Apr 29 20104 hours 26 minutes ago
By ninemsn staff

Scientists are studying an 82-year-old Indian man who claims he has not eaten any food or drink for 70 years.

Prahlad Jani says he survives on "spiritual life force" provided by a goddess who pours an "elixir" through a hole in his palate, the Telegraph newspaper reports.

Researchers from India's Defence Research Development Organisation are keeping Mr Jani under observation in Ahmedabad, Gurjarat, in the country's west.

They believe if Mr Jani's claim is legitimate, it could help them teach soldiers survive for long periods without food or disaster victims to hold on until help arrives.

"If his claims are verified, it will be a breakthrough in medical science," said Dr G Ilavazhagan, director of the Defence Institute of Physiology & Allied Sciences.

Mr Jani, who says he left home at the age of seven before living as a "holy man", has spent six days in isolation and doctors say his body is showing no signs of dehydration. He has not passed any urine or stools.

Doctors will continue to observe Mr Jani for another 15 days at which point they expect to see muscle fatigue, weight loss and serious dehydration.

Most humans will die after 50 days without food. The world's longest hunger strike is 74 days.

Tests on Mr Jani's brain reportedly show that it resembled that of a 25-year-old person.

An Indian doctor who specialises in people who claim they have supernatural abilities has supported Mr Jani's claim. Others have described Mr Jani as a "village fraud".

news.ninemsn.com.au...

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

[edit on 29-4-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]

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I like the message of this post. I am a firm believer in empirical science, but I believe just as staunchly in the limits of what we can come to know through direct, or even technologically enhanced, perception and measurement.

It never ceases to perplex and amuse me when people seem to take personal offense when it is suggested that there are questions which cannot possibly be answered with empirical certainty.

To contrast the sort of person I mean with the sort I do not, allow me to depart momentarily from the socially detached standpoint I generally endeavor to maintain:

The poster called Phage, a well-known ATS skeptic, will present any amount of scientific information necessary to elucidate a rational explanation for a seemingly supernatural phenomenon. He does so, however, with the intent to educate, not to commit iconoclasm. He maintains a reasonable, intellectual treatment of the subject at hand, and of the participants in the discussion, without allowing juvenile arrogance or ad hominem derision to cloud his message.

In contrast, there are several posters in this thread who, presented with a story that does not lend itself readily to rational explanation, make no effort to pry the story apart and explain it in scientific terms; rather, they simply decree the story obviously false and impossible, and unilaterally declare those willing to question it further to be fools and mental defectives.

One of these two archetypes denies the implausible, but does so positively: they provide sound evidence for an alternative, and more reasonable, explanation.

The other, as I stated three years ago on the second page of this thread, just resorts to piss jokes.




[edit on 29-4-2010 by The Parallelogram]

WOW!

I just realised this thread is 7 years old!

Brilliant!

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not

WOW!

I just realised this thread is 7 years old!

Brilliant!

OMG !!!! I never realized that myself until you pointed it out.

Well, here we are 7 years later and has this person become medically famous world-wide ?
Did he become a household name ?
Did medical science get turned on it's head by his amazing abilities ?

Answer to all the above ...... NO !!!

So I wonder, oozyism ... just how many gullible people suspended the use of their 'rationality filter' and got sucked in

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So I wonder, oozyism ... just how many gullible people suspended the use of their 'rationality filter' and got sucked in

Firstly I knew this thread was old because I was directed from another thread to this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Secondly and funnily, you completely avoided my post and completely went off radar to make yourself feel better..

I never argued the legitimacy of this individual, but I argued for such idea, for such possibility..

That argument is clear on my posts.. You on the other hand, completely went off radar and completely reject the whole idea that impossible can = possible, which has been proven over and over again through out history..

So if you have something to say to me, say it in response to my post..

reply to post by tauristercus


Tauristercus.....

It's always nice to chat with you

I've been in the medical game for a long time.

I agree.....This is IMPOSSIBLE!

This one belongs well & truly in the hoax bin.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

PS It's also being discussed over here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 29-4-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]

Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
reply to post by tauristercus

 

Tauristercus.....

It's always nice to chat with you

I've been in the medical game for a long time.

I agree.....This is IMPOSSIBLE!

This one belongs well & truly in the hoax bin.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

PS It's also being discussed over here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 29-4-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]

Hi again, Maybe...maybe not.

I'm constantly being surprised (though by now I really shouldn't be) by the number of people who seem to have this need or desire to accept almost anything on face value no matter that their inbuilt bs-meter MUST be virtually going off scale !

This thread is a perfect example of this behaviour.

Instead of immediately (as rational people) determining that the possibility of a human being surviving on absolutely no food/water intake whatsoever for 7 decades is completely unprecedented, unheard of in the annals of human history and furthermore flies in the face of everything we know from a human medical/nutrition point of view, this logic is completely ignored and a personal belief in miraculous & almost paranormal events reinforced to the point of absurdity.

I, and am positive you did as well, read the OP and immediately recognized the claim for the bs it was.

Reminds me of the old P.T. Barnum maxim regarding fools being born every day ... quite a few of them seem to find their way to ATS

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Tauristercus.....

Exactly.....

.....& furthermore as I stated above, if the Indian Dr looking after him makes any claims to verify this, he is doing it because he craves attention & publicity.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by kegs

Doctors and experts are baffled by an Indian hermit who claimsnot to have eaten or drunk anything for several decades - but is still in perfect health.

Can you put much faith into someone WHO CLAIMS? If so I CLAIM to be Jesus. On a serious note isnt water needed for survival?

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The world would be such a nice place if we all agreed like you and your new best friend Maybe...maybe not..

The thing you have to remember is, that if you keep running away from discussion like this, then your own credibility goes down..

Well have a nice stay in ATS, gather all the rational people and add them as your friend, create an alliance, then beat the Nazi's..


Need alot of eye rolling for rationalists like you..

Originally posted by oozyism
reply to post by tauristercus

 

The world would be such a nice place if we all agreed like you and your new best friend Maybe...maybe not..

The thing you have to remember is, that if you keep running away from discussion like this, then your own credibility goes down..

I'm not running away whatsoever.
I was quite prepared to get stuck into the illogicality of believing this ridiculous claim as I believed it to be a current media report ... that is, until Maybe...maybe not noticed that it was all of 7 years old. At which point any further discussion/debate became moot.

Here we had an article claiming a miraculous human capability to exist without any substance intake whatsoever which should have been front page material worldwide if proven true ... and yet 7 years later, so where is this wonder man and his miraculous claims today ? NOWHERE ! Just a totally bogus claim and showing clearly just how gullible people can be regarding this sort of pseudo-scientific/religious/paranormal/mystical claim.

Bottom line ... the guy was a charlatan preying on the gullible ... of which there are simply way to many.