To any person that can predict the future...

Originally posted by forsakenwayfarer
yea but seriously speaking, numerology is really trying to read into something that isnt there. bunch of bull#. plus it doesnt make a damn bit of sense mathematically. drop that on your head.

Geez, calm down...

Aside from adding and such, numerology has nothing to do with math.

But...

There is a method used in the Trachtenterg system that allows you to speed check your work that's very similar to the addition that sapphire did. It's called finding the digital root of a number.

Originally posted by forsakenwayfarer
yea but seriously speaking, numerology is really trying to read into something that isnt there. bunch of bull#. plus it doesnt make a damn bit of sense mathematically. drop that on your head.

forsakenwayfarer: There's really no need to be rude sire ... tsk tsk ...
my original post was this:

silly really but i noticed this.

dec 22/2012

december = 12 + 22 +2012 = 12 = 2+1 = 3

3 = The 3 sides of the Pyramid or Trinity if you will, "Unity"

2012 will be the beginning of a New Aeon - The Age of Aquarius Star Constellation - The age of Peace / 1000 yr reign of peace as seen in KJV

Must be a Conspiracy

[Edited on 22-11-2003 by Sapphire]

So as you can see i said it was a silly observation of mine and thought it interesting, no more no less...

Ah but time has already been written.. Glimpses of everything are being shown to all levels who many journeyman call "The Mandalin" . However no one knows the date for sure since the time continum can be changed by awarness and also the awarness can alter perception of the masses to force chance just to prove someone wrong.. Something is happening and it is very grand..

Originally posted by Sapphire

Originally posted by Kobyoshimaru

Originally posted by Sapphire
silly really but i noticed this.

dec 22/2012

december = 12 + 22 +2012 = 12 = 2+1 = 3

3 = The 3 sides of the Pyramid or Trinity if you will, "Unity"

2012 will be the beginning of a New Aeon - The Age of Aquarius Star Constellation - The age of Peace / 1000 yr reign of peace as seen in KJV

Must be a Conspiracy

[Edited on 22-11-2003 by Sapphire]

No seriously...can you explane how
12 + 22 +2012 = 12 = 2+1 = 3


errr well you see ... you add all the numbers up together and Voila you end up with the smallest common denominator. neat isn't it

i can see the 3 from the 1+2,
but,

12+22+2012 does NOT equal 12 it makes ur humm 2046 ........................................................... and i was not dropped on my head.

Do you have 2 User names??
ok watch carefully ...
12+22 = 34 3+4 =7 +20 = 27 + 12=39 "3+9=12" 1+2=3
isn't that just gnarly dude? i mean wow how easy was that eh?

we all know what to get sapphire for Xmas.......a double lobottomy and 10 rolls of padded rubber wallpaper

Darn now i'll have to buy You a New present for X-Mas, you just ruined it!!!!

[Edited on 22-11-2003 by Sapphire]

Cheers for the explaination (and i only have one user name to my knowledge - who else did u think was me), i also checked out numerology which i don't have time to read and understand fully but i does seem u can make
3 from loads of things, i.e my date of birth 27-05-1979

27+05=31 3+1=4 4+19=23 23+79=102 1+0+2=3

I can assure you im not a mason or any of that stuff so what exactly are people saying numerology means, im going to see what else i can make 3 from.

I'll hold off on the lobotomy etc, im sure i can find a better candidate

Hey there Project X...

back to your post, Predicting is Not Prophecy...
so, just like the turf handicappers, football prognosticators, heres my prediction tip (s)

buy into 'entertainment', because the world citizens affluent enough to have disposable 'Fun; monies...will of necessity buy the latest 'escape vehicle' so as to Not have to face...terrorism/pestilence/poverty etc etc

the 2012 cultures will be greatly divided between the 'haves' & 'have-nots', much more than today!
see: america v 3rd world, exec v tech v white collar v blue collar etc etc

NAFTA & free-trade, have kicked out the support columns that elevated the american experience above other societies...we are now among the riff-raff, joined into the mass of 'lowest common denominator'

Hip-Hop is the every day street norm, the prevailing culture of a dog-eat-dog culture...only superficially above a savage, treacherous, nocturnal, mindset--> your either-->> predator-> scavenger-> prey

whatever christians, pagans, hindus, are left...will be hiding in caves (troglodytes) in small inner city groups/clans.

water (clean potable water) is more valuable than Gas & Gold

remember, project X-> anybody can make predictions...
but be careful of what Predictions (can) make (of) You...

enjoy your journey

I think the only one that even came close to making sence was riffraffalunas. Thanx, ill be sure to umm,invest in the future??


Although I have to side with that dude who got droped on the head (HAHAHAHA),How did you get those numbers??

and...umm....i forgot what I was ganna say..gimmie some time.

PS... hey Project X, and others that got into this thread,

heres a URL...for fun...www.deathclock.com...

type in a few data points, dob, s-or-ns? body mass,,,

***the 1/3rd screen, pop-up box- - will eventually show the result....so, don't throw out the pop-up as unwanted ADvertizement***

~~+~~

...Is this Entertainment?! or what !!...s/riff raff

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All this time wasted instead of wanting to understand we spend the time arguing. See the future is possible to predict .. The problem is that once we become aware of all things around us we can change the course of it.. All things repeat themselves.. Many get too hung up on the small details when they are missing the whole contract all together... I personally think it is funny how you use (HAHAHAHA) as so.. Seeing that you just predicted something you were so unaware off.. Sapphire is a brilliant person.. Her methods sometimes are difficult for even me to udnerstand.. But with explanation doesn't it still ADD up in the end?


quote]Originally posted by ProjectX
I think the only one that even came close to making sence was riffraffalunas. Thanx, ill be sure to umm,invest in the future??


Although I have to side with that dude who got droped on the head (HAHAHAHA),How did you get those numbers??

and...umm....i forgot what I was ganna say..gimmie some time.

Originally posted by Kobyoshimaru

Originally posted by Sapphire

Originally posted by Kobyoshimaru

Originally posted by Sapphire
silly really but i noticed this.

dec 22/2012

december = 12 + 22 +2012 = 12 = 2+1 = 3

3 = The 3 sides of the Pyramid or Trinity if you will, "Unity"

2012 will be the beginning of a New Aeon - The Age of Aquarius Star Constellation - The age of Peace / 1000 yr reign of peace as seen in KJV

Must be a Conspiracy

[Edited on 22-11-2003 by Sapphire]

No seriously...can you explane how
12 + 22 +2012 = 12 = 2+1 = 3


errr well you see ... you add all the numbers up together and Voila you end up with the smallest common denominator. neat isn't it

i can see the 3 from the 1+2,
but,

12+22+2012 does NOT equal 12 it makes ur humm 2046 ........................................................... and i was not dropped on my head.

Do you have 2 User names??
ok watch carefully ...
12+22 = 34 3+4 =7 +20 = 27 + 12=39 "3+9=12" 1+2=3
isn't that just gnarly dude? i mean wow how easy was that eh?

we all know what to get sapphire for Xmas.......a double lobottomy and 10 rolls of padded rubber wallpaper

Darn now i'll have to buy You a New present for X-Mas, you just ruined it!!!!

[Edited on 22-11-2003 by Sapphire]

Cheers for the explaination (and i only have one user name to my knowledge - who else did u think was me), i also checked out numerology which i don't have time to read and understand fully but i does seem u can make
3 from loads of things, i.e my date of birth 27-05-1979

27+05=31 3+1=4 4+19=23 23+79=102 1+0+2=3

I can assure you im not a mason or any of that stuff so what exactly are people saying numerology means, im going to see what else i can make 3 from.

I'll hold off on the lobotomy etc, im sure i can find a better candidate

Interestingly enough yes 3 does tend to come up frequently ... maybe it does so because we live in a 3rd dimensional world Just another random thought, i get those often.
Nor am i a Mason Mormon Religious wacko, or a Ron Hubbard Cultie heh. As for the lobotomy err good luck ... Do let me know who the lucky canditate will be

Originally posted by Revebo
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All this time wasted instead of wanting to understand we spend the time arguing. See the future is possible to predict .. The problem is that once we become aware of all things around us we can change the course of it.. All things repeat themselves.. Many get too hung up on the small details when they are missing the whole contract all together... I personally think it is funny how you use (HAHAHAHA) as so.. Seeing that you just predicted something you were so unaware off.. Sapphire is a brilliant person.. Her methods sometimes are difficult for even me to udnerstand.. But with explanation doesn't it still ADD up in the end?

Thankyou Rev

I've had several dreams in which nuclear explosions happen. Usually I don't have anything to do with them, I just happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Strangely enough, I always survive the explosions.

On dream was different, though. It was very lifelike. I was flying a B-2 stealth bomber at night above Manhattan. For some reason I decided to nuke the whole city. The explosions were spectacular to look at.

You seem oddly familar? From Texas maybe?

Originally posted by Kobyoshimaru

Originally posted by Sapphire

Originally posted by Kobyoshimaru

Originally posted by Sapphire
silly really but i noticed this.

dec 22/2012

december = 12 + 22 +2012 = 12 = 2+1 = 3

3 = The 3 sides of the Pyramid or Trinity if you will, "Unity"

2012 will be the beginning of a New Aeon - The Age of Aquarius Star Constellation - The age of Peace / 1000 yr reign of peace as seen in KJV

Must be a Conspiracy

[Edited on 22-11-2003 by Sapphire]

No seriously...can you explane how
12 + 22 +2012 = 12 = 2+1 = 3


errr well you see ... you add all the numbers up together and Voila you end up with the smallest common denominator. neat isn't it

i can see the 3 from the 1+2,
but,

12+22+2012 does NOT equal 12 it makes ur humm 2046 ........................................................... and i was not dropped on my head.

Do you have 2 User names??
ok watch carefully ...
12+22 = 34 3+4 =7 +20 = 27 + 12=39 "3+9=12" 1+2=3
isn't that just gnarly dude? i mean wow how easy was that eh?

we all know what to get sapphire for Xmas.......a double lobottomy and 10 rolls of padded rubber wallpaper

Darn now i'll have to buy You a New present for X-Mas, you just ruined it!!!!

[Edited on 22-11-2003 by Sapphire]

Cheers for the explaination (and i only have one user name to my knowledge - who else did u think was me), i also checked out numerology which i don't have time to read and understand fully but i does seem u can make
3 from loads of things, i.e my date of birth 27-05-1979

27+05=31 3+1=4 4+19=23 23+79=102 1+0+2=3

I can assure you im not a mason or any of that stuff so what exactly are people saying numerology means, im going to see what else i can make 3 from.

I'll hold off on the lobotomy etc, im sure i can find a better candidate

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Bows to the Queen... All other !#%!@#%@# off...

quote]Originally posted by Sapphire

Originally posted by Revebo
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All this time wasted instead of wanting to understand we spend the time arguing. See the future is possible to predict .. The problem is that once we become aware of all things around us we can change the course of it.. All things repeat themselves.. Many get too hung up on the small details when they are missing the whole contract all together... I personally think it is funny how you use (HAHAHAHA) as so.. Seeing that you just predicted something you were so unaware off.. Sapphire is a brilliant person.. Her methods sometimes are difficult for even me to udnerstand.. But with explanation doesn't it still ADD up in the end?

Thankyou Rev

I thought the date was Dec. 12, 2012.

Originally posted by ProjectX
I havent read much about the year 2012, but I did know that thats the end of the Mayan calander. But can a subcontios mind like that realy predict,or warn of whats to come? Still a little bit spooked by it. Becouse out of the whole dream, the only thing that REALY impacted my dream was that calander. it felt like I was staring at it for an eternity.

The remote viewing theary...isnt that for only preasent time, and not the future? I will admit I HAVE tryed to remote view a few times. Havent had much luck....


But these help thanx. But if anyone else can take a crack at it, by all means, go ahead.

u said u werent a psychic...one assumes you dont participate in this type of thing, not "I will admit I HAVE tryed to remote view a few times. Havent had much luck...."

The Mayan calander could be off 3 days, but it's not only they Mayans and 2012, but also the Egyptian calendar ends on 2012 (same date). The idea in your dream of that nuclear stuff etc. is just because you have the feeling the Apocalyps will then happen (Mayans also say at that date the "Alconscienceness" will return). However the Apocalyps will happen when we don't want to work under God anymore, just like Lucifer.

Sapphire
1000 yr reign of peace as seen in KJV

Do you understand the 1000 years which Lucifer would be in hell according to the Bible? The piece is just the time we still like our God (because of the technological singularity which will occur) after that we neither want to destroy civilisations and kill creatures on other planets... so the time of piece is gone because we don't want to murder and destroy as being slaves...

God doesn't say without a reason also the Apocalyps will be for menkind, but yeah I am talking to myself I quess, because I never get a lot of response when it comes to Lucifer as being just like us, just because you people don't want to believe that God wasn't the good one.

I better go now.

Where the 21-12-2012 11:11UTC comes from is the predicted time of the Solistice (Sp?)

To add interest to this, my gf dreamed of her and I leading a small rebel group against an unknown force which had taken the East Coast of Oz. Funny. I also have dreams like that, but in the past I have dreamt events occuring, little ones, but the markers, or rather the obvious signs were there, like a certain book which despite being published a week ago, I knew about and had read, songs for which I describe the video clip to people, then find out that the album is still in production. Then 6 months later, the video clips comes out, just like I said.


Everything is set in place, if the world was to end tomoroow, there is nothing we can do to stop it, unless we were meant to stop, in which case it would be stopped (This is reasoned from a Mathematical background)

Every motion, every partivcle, every little bit of energy (even quantum fuzz) has a pattern, such patterns are set by laws, these laws are the governing "machines" of all actions we do and see. Much like how things are invented, did the "Universe" have the plans to build a pencil before we did it, or did we actually "invent" it? If you belive the latter, then there is no understanding of anything. If you believe the former, you should think about it further and reason that everything is set, not by a God or diety (though if you believe in religion, feel free to believe that your God is the maker of the laws), but by the laws which we have to follow.

2012 is coming, and unless somthing sweet happens, my day will be the same.

I've never heard of the year 2012 being the END of any calendars, and I've heard a load of different theories as to how and when the "end of the world" will come. I can't say what I really believe about it all.

However, I have heard of several self-proclaimed psychics, and know a few genuinely gifted people that for some reason can't see much past the years 2012/2013. It's interesting that so many "gifted" people have some sort of block around that time frame.

I don't believe that the "block" comes from power of suggestion to so many people - I'm sure several of them are like me and haven't heard of that being the ending date for those calendars.

Yes, it's a stretch, and could be a coincidence. But I'm sure there are several of you out there that can find the conspiracy in this! ;-)

Originally posted by ProjectX
What does the year 2012 hold for us?

I believe that it holds, not destruction, but an "awakening" of the human consciousness, where we begin to truly understand our impact on the earth--of the interconnectedness.

Along with this, I also see some sort of contact with other intelligent phenomena, hoping to communicate good things to us humans.