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The Reptilian Totalitarian System

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posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 12:55 AM
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So reptiles approached you one day to do secret work with them relating to global domination? Have you ever seen the movie "A Beautiful Mind" ?
If you have don't take offense, I'm just wondering if you have considered alternate explainations.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 01:43 AM
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I find it funny (but that's just ego, actually it's quite upsetting) how so many people searching for the truth attack it violently once they find it. Further, I find myself fighting the emerging idea in my head that the majority of humans are cattle. However, I know there is a route out of that to where we can achieve unimagined heights, and that is worth it all.

InternetUser- As i'm sure you're aware the majority of communications you are going to receive on ATS are not ones you should be letting effect you whatsoever. Most people on ATS have no idea what is going on. That is why the majority are here: answers. Most of the moderators are nice, and the three amigos are great- but it is rare to find someone credible here- and usually they aren't around for very long before they get attacked verbally, insulted, or don't receive the attention they deserve. Most people who know what is so on this forum talk regulary via U2U and don't always post on the forums for this reason stated above. Remember, this is a public forum, emphasis on public.

I like your story, and more importantly know where you are coming from. You don't have to relive this nightmare- don't seek "professional help" anyone who says that should be in "professional help". However, I can help you get relief and show you the right way to go after this, U2U me and I'll show you. Let's start with that.

p.s. Probed stop being an ass...


[edit on 20-12-2006 by jaguarmike]



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 02:07 AM
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From the very beginning I started my interest in the UFO phenomena and other phenomena ,I never once took this reptillian theory serious.I have on countless occasions attempted to look into it and see it from a believers point of view but the contradictions within the theory itself make this imposssible for me.Let alone the lack of research and almost fictionlike stories that many have attempted to post on this site and others have made it impossibe for me.

I have once taken the time to look into this theory in all fairness of the reptillian believers who may be fighting for the same truth just like any other believer but I have come out dissapointed.In my overall opinion,the reptillian theory is built up on a fictional story which varies greatly from person to person,which often consists of mainly racist,self-worship and on afew occasions certain fantasies of a person (my apologies if im stepping the line here mods)

Nevertheless I would like the thankyou internetuser...
Its threads like these that brings more people to question the validity of the reptillian theory.Maby oneday we could put clearly false theories such as these to sleep and bring out the real truths into the picture for the good of the world.

I fought aparthied in south Africa for years so that people can have the freedom they somuch deserve.Now im fighting for another freedom,and its lies like these that I am having to face along with others obstacles to get to my goal.

Merry christmas

Guardian out.

[edit on 20-12-2006 by southern_Guardian]



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 03:39 AM
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OK I'll fill you all in on a little fact of life before you go attacking innocent people you think are really Reptilians.

Each person has a Kundalini Serpent at the root of their spine. When a soul is placed into a human body the kundalini serpent has the task of keeping it there for the duration of the person's life. Millions of people have tried to meditate and suddenly they see a big Reptilian eye looking at them. This is just their own Reptilian guard letting them know he/she is there watching them.

Often the Reptilian guards try to teach their humans about higher things, just as in The Garden of Eden the Reptilian tried to tell Eve that she could be like a God once she had knowledge. But the gods who put us here put us here to learn about earth life so they don't want us associating with our reptilian kundalini guards and learning about off-world matters.

So all this new propaganda against the reptilians is just the same old law being enforced as it was in ancient times. It's to stop people knowing the reptilians and finding out the secrets of life. Because the reptilians are really not so bad after all and a lot of them only want to help people understand things. But their basic job is simply to hold souls in human bodies so that the souls can experience earth life. That's why in The Bible God said 'stay away from the serpent and simply toil on the earth and make babies'. He didn't want humans becoming like gods he just wanted them to learn about earth life. And all the aliens are simply hiding their tracks so that no one can learn about off-world matters. And people who like the Reptilians are hated by all mankind.

No the kundalini is a powerful serpent force that can transform and appear in any shape. And it can rise up inside a person and look through their eyes so that the person appears to have reptilian eyes at times. The person however is oblivious to the reptilian kundalini and is just doing what they believe to be the right thing to do.

It is written somewhere that God gave the keys to the gates of Hell to the serpent. And I think this was referring to the fact that it is the serpent or reptilian who has the keys to hold humans in this lower realm. Because it is the serpent kundalini at the base of everyones spine that holds them in their body. The serpent is the gatekeeper and is one of the good guys but he has the bad job of locking humans in their bodies, so he appears as a bad guy.

One has to ask "Where are the good aliens or good angels that are supposed to be so powerful? Why are they staying out of sight while our world suffers so? The answer is that they don't want us to learn anything about off-world matters because the earth is a school and they want us to learn only about that. And the reptilian is the one that holds us on the earth.

So many reptilians will tell humans they are the bad guys simply because they have the worst task in the universe of en-caging the immortal soul in a horrible little human body where it suffers various troubles.

There are countless people in love with reptilian beings. They know they are nice creatures. But the status quo is trained to hate them. I love all the aliens equally. I've met insect ones as well as numerous other sorts including reptilians and amphibians. They are all wonderful beings and must never be harmed in any way.

I live near Steve Irwin's home and the way he felt about crocodiles and other dangerous critters is the way I feel about all the aliens. They are all brilliant creatures and must be protected at all costs. Unfortunately there is so much negative propaganda about them that most people are terrified of all aliens.

I was given a dream this morning telling me what the reptilian beings task is. No doubt I was given the dream because the dream giver knew I would be tackling this reptilian issue today. The dream was about reptilian men who wait on earth till souls are brought here and then they take charge of them and drive them towards various goals even though they know the souls have little chance of reaching their goals. I was shown that a reptilian can take charge of a number of souls at once or simply an individual. I didn't know why I was given that dream until I came to the board today.

I made the earlier pun about the north pole and Santa just to break the spell of terror being woven around the north pole at this Christmas time. The timing couldn't be worse to curse the north pole area, but that's the way the dark side works. Rejoice and be merry because all the reptilians are friends who would never harm anyone.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 04:27 AM
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I think humans are evil and reptilians know that, which is why they enslaved humanity so they (humans) could bring destruction on themselves alone or mostly. Good for the reptilians


[edit on 20-12-2006 by laiguana]



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by probedbygrays
It's to stop people knowing the reptilians and finding out the secrets of life. Because the reptilians are really not so bad after all and a lot of them only want to help people understand things. But their basic job is simply to hold souls in human bodies so that the souls can experience earth life.


...

I'm speechless. I guess all I can say is this: helping/letting a crime happen makes you just as guilty as doing a crime.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

There's some history for you. Seems they are just as totalitarian as the OP says. Isn't it humorous how recent space history seems like some nightmare on a playground? The whole track of time is the same way. Not really funny, but you know what I mean. Shows you how "elevated" these aliens are hahaha. Better technology, pure numbers, and ability to warp and suppress naive good beings is how we all got in this mess in the first place. Don't forget, every being man, pig, bug, etc are all the spirits of aliens that got sent to Earth against their will- with some on missions.


Probed, I have some questions for you. Do you believe it possible that a long time ago you were living a better life in a better surrounding with better goals and better spirituality? If the answer is yes, then ask yourself who put you here. Next, ask yourself if you deserve it. Once you realize the answer is "No JM, I didn't do anything wrong" you'll start to rethink wether or not whatever beings who contact you constantly are actually out for your best interest, or following orders from the one's that psychologically dominate them at the top. This one paragraph can completely show who you are. Think bigger. Yes, it's powerful and spiritual to be contacted, but remember it gets old and no different than us going to some crazy island in the Gallapagos and how the creatures there would react to us. Remember that.

p.s. No one has advocated violence against these beings. Not like the human race would stand a chance either. Education is more powerful than the nastiest weapon you can create with unlimited funds and unlimited ideas. The pen IS mightier than the sword. Unfortunately, the words we write on this forum probably have very little impact to the casual observers (mass population). All that is needed to sway the problems from A-Z has already been written by a genius man named L. Ron Hubbard. Want to change things? Do it.

[edit on 20-12-2006 by jaguarmike]



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 05:33 AM
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The Reptilians have made many people project evil, the majority of people do not want wars, fight with others or anything. The Reptilians is NOT our guides, thats what they want you to believe. Leaving your faith on other beings in this universe is not how to find the truth, you need to develop spiritualy and you will find that you got more power then these beings have, they can't touch your spirit. When people realise where the truly belong they will have no real fear of anything anymore.

[edit on 20-12-2006 by InSaneTK]



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 05:40 AM
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THANK YOU INSANETK!!


I'll just be quite frank Probed- we've had some great conversations on here, partly because we both know what is so and that's rare for humans.

However, at this point I am 100% certain you fall into two categories. One, you are a good person who actually does care and wants to see the best for beings with the knowledge you possess thus far. I don't blame you for the mistake based on your data (trusting our captors' intentions), afterall- it's fooled trillions in the past. Or... you are a disinfo agent sent by God knows who to battle God knows what. I really hope it's the first probe.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 06:11 AM
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It's so simple everyone.



Don't let the surounding concepts of this planet affect the way you perceive reality and your eternal existence.

find your true innerself and awake from this dream.


peace and lover everyone.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 06:59 AM
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Its threads/stories like this that make people think UFO enthusiasts are all nut cases.


I sometimes really wonder if people believe the stuff they post here, or are just posting stuff like this for $hit$ and giggles.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 07:05 AM
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Stop Spreading and Supporting Lies/Disinformation..

Can't yall hang out on a Sci-Fi Forum instead?

[edit on 20-12-2006 by DigThat]



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by DigThat
Stop Spreading and Supporting Lies/Disinformation..

Can't yall hang out on a Sci-Fi Forum instead?

[edit on 20-12-2006 by DigThat]


Well said DT.

Well said indeed.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 07:12 AM
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Ezekial and DigThat... lol!!!


You know, this is just too easy. I gotta hand it to ya, I'm RELIEVED that the majority of people think this kind of conversation is what most what classify as "insane."

Do yourself a big favor, step outside, and check out what most people deem as sane. Once you see the war, criminality, insanity, obesity, lying, cheating, stealing, raping, killing, drug use, etc get back to me on what society deems appropriate.

No one of spiritual intellect has to listen to what you two have said; it's beyond idiotic and shows you have the awareness of small forest animals (I thought calling you mentally retarded was a tad harsh).

But i'll tell you what, today i'm offering a special treat- I won't be posting until I get back from work and dinner, so you can go live in your mental and spiritual box.







[edit on 20-12-2006 by jaguarmike]



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 07:30 AM
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I guess some people take sci-fi seriously because it brings excitment into their dull lives. It's like playing pretend for 5 year olds except these people are likely between 30-40 years of age. Sad.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 07:30 AM
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Originally posted by jaguarmike
Ezekial and DigThat... lol!!!


You know, this is just too easy. I gotta hand it to ya, I'm RELIEVED that the majority of people think this kind of conversation is what most what classify as "insane."

Do yourself a big favor, step outside, and check out what most people deem as sane. Once you see the war, criminality, insanity, obesity, lying, cheating, stealing, raping, killing, drug use, etc get back to me on what society deems appropriate.


Appropriate and sane are two completely different things. Which are you trying to argue here? None of the above are appropriate, however a lot of normal everyday people do a lot of the things you mentioned - why? It's human nature. Is it appropriate? NO! Is it normal/sane behaviour? YES!

Claiming that you were employed by Reptilians who are taking over the world through stealth with their High tec planes and stargates - might be APPROPRIATE for this board, but is it sane/normal behaviour? HELL NO!

(I realise you didnt claim that yourself - just making a point)



No one of spiritual intellect has to listen to what you two have said; it's beyond idiotic and shows you have the awareness of children.


No one of any kind of intellect has to listen to what anyone else has to say if they done want to. Making disparaging remarks about DT and I, is simply childish and the arrogant, self superior tone of your post is a clear indication that you aren't prepared to argue your point with any kind of rationality.

You'll simply claim that we aren't 'spiritually developed enough' or that we 'refuse to believe the truth' without providing any proof or plausible account of your stories.

If your willing to prove me wrong, I'm willing to be proven wrong.



But i'll tell you what, today i'm offering a special treat- I won't be posting until I get back from work and dinner, so you can go live in your box you call life.


Again with the swipe at my lifestyle - I'm starting to think I might have really offended you. If thats the case then I apologise, though you should really consider that just because this is a conspiracy/supernatural forum it doesnt mean that people will naturally accept or believe anything that is posted here , especially when outrageous claims are made with no proof or even a hint of conviction in their authenticity.


Edit: I just noticed your edit.


.....shows you have the awareness of small forest animals (I thought calling you mentally retarded was a tad harsh).


Wow thats a really hard hitting argument there - so now I'm slightly above being mentally retarded am I?

And why is that?

1. For not blindly accepting the claims of a complete stranger.....
2. On an internet message board......
3. That Reptillian Aliens from the North Pole.....are taking over the world (very slowly by the sounds of it) with help from their super planes and stargates?

Definition time!!

retarded: relatively slow in mental or emotional or physical development;

Now please tell me if you don't agree, but do you not think that arguing your point by attacking my mental capacity and my lifestyle is a little childish? Or immature?

immature: lacking in development; "immature plans"; "an unformed character"

Not that I'm suggesting anything mind you.




[edit on 20-12-2006 by Ezekiel]

[edit on 20-12-2006 by Ezekiel]



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by jaguarmike
Ezekial and DigThat... lol!!!


You know, this is just too easy. I gotta hand it to ya, I'm RELIEVED that the majority of people think this kind of conversation is what most what classify as "insane."

Do yourself a big favor, step outside, and check out what most people deem as sane. Once you see the war, criminality, insanity, obesity, lying, cheating, stealing, raping, killing, drug use, etc get back to me on what society deems appropriate.

No one of spiritual intellect has to listen to what you two have said; it's beyond idiotic and shows you have the awareness of small forest animals (I thought calling you mentally retarded was a tad harsh).

But i'll tell you what, today i'm offering a special treat- I won't be posting until I get back from work and dinner, so you can go live in your mental and spiritual box.







[edit on 20-12-2006 by jaguarmike]
What does someone who claims to have been raped by "Reptilian" Aliens and Blames the evil that Men do, on Aliens; have to do with spirituality?

You are the one who needs to step outside, see the world for what it REALLY is and not get lost in fantasys (because they easily explains things you dont want to face); then you can look into the subject of UFO's/Aliens with a somewhat logical approach. If you can't see that David Ike is full of it after that then I guess I'll just have to feel sorry for you.

I won't give this thread anymore posts cause that would simply be promoting it--And take focus of some of the more serious researchers.

Good Bye

[edit on 20-12-2006 by DigThat]



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 09:05 AM
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Way too tempting, looks like i'm breaking my special treat.


Originally posted by Ezekiel

Appropriate and sane are two completely different things. Which are you trying to argue here? None of the above are appropriate, however a lot of normal everyday people do a lot of the things you mentioned - why? It's human nature. Is it appropriate? NO! Is it normal/sane behaviour? YES!

Claiming that you were employed by Reptilians who are taking over the world through stealth with their High tec planes and stargates - might be APPROPRIATE for this board, but is it sane/normal behaviour? HELL NO!

(I realise you didnt claim that yourself - just making a point)



I'm arguing both appropriate and sanity. What a population deems appropriate is what the population deems sane. If the population did not agree with the world's problems, everyone would stop what they're doing and actively work on it. With that understood, if the population does not act to remedy the problem, because they agree with it by not acting, you can deem them as insane. Thus shows how much credibility I give most people in their ideas, fantasies, and confusions. Will you find some people interested in ghosts, flying soucers, ET etc insane? Yes. We can agree on that. However, the truth is much stranger than fiction, even sci-fi. It's very rare that accurate information arises, and when it does you automatically will see the skeptics come out of their shells and attack. For disbelief or disinfo, it really doesn't matter. I'm not going to berate you with saying you should know by now- however I will attack you back if you attack an idea that is the dominant idea within the most credible people in the UFO field. Doctors, Ex-Military with security clearences, regular joes with stories very similar, maybe you'll even be lucky to be directly involved with ET. I know a few people, including myself, that have had such experiences. I even know someone who was sent here to Earth on a mission- I know people you'd deem as Gods here, the only reason you don't know what they can do is because they are completely not selfish and are completely ethical beings. Am I going to give you proof? No.

Do I claim to be perfect in my scientific approach to topics and my own ethics and judgement? No, but i'm human- i'm not perfect at all. I work on it. Afterall, humans have a far far far way to go to become back to how we used to be eons ago. However, I like to fund projects that work on the issue which makes me sleep soundly at night. Can you say the same about yourself?





No one of any kind of intellect has to listen to what anyone else has to say if they done want to. Making disparaging remarks about DT and I, is simply childish and the arrogant, self superior tone of your post is a clear indication that you aren't prepared to argue your point with any kind of rationality.

You'll simply claim that we aren't 'spiritually developed enough' or that we 'refuse to believe the truth' without providing any proof or plausible account of your stories.

If your willing to prove me wrong, I'm willing to be proven wrong.


First I want to touch on proving you wrong. I can't offer you any concrete proof directly and neither do I really want to because you've attacked this idea- but that's ego, I still care about your survival about a being regardless even though you probably don't know that. I would look to Billy Mier, John Lear (ATS), Sleeper (ATS), Probed (ATS), Jim Maars, Scientology... the list goes on forever. You'll start noticing trends, and that is when the story gets fabulous, but it obviously makes you want to support groups that help the problems- because it's not all pies and laughter.

With the exception of all Scientology's material dealing with your own past-lives (where all of this ET stuff comes about), there will normally be things that aren't true completely within the UFO field but generally not with malicious intent. You have to understand every person has a unique reality on life, and our lives have stretched trillions of years. That's a pretty heavy thought. Look for connections, and look for what you know to be true about the situation. I could write 4 essays on it so far, most couldn't do a paragraph, some could write novels. It's a case by case basis with this topic.

Do I come off as arrogant? Yes. Do I care? No. Once you learn what I know to be absolutely without a shadow of a doubt true, you get sick of people going over the same material over and over again from different sources saying "disinfo" and "crap." It's quite pathetic, but i'm still here aren't I.

Also, you are correct no one has to listen to anything they want. Receiving and sending communications based on will is a right everyone has.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 09:13 AM
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continued...




Again with the swipe at my lifestyle - I'm starting to think I might have really offended you. If thats the case then I apologise, though you should really consider that just because this is a conspiracy/supernatural forum it doesnt mean that people will naturally accept or believe anything that is posted here , especially when outrageous claims are made with no proof or even a hint of conviction in their authenticity.


Edit: I just noticed your edit.




Sure, I got upset. But don't take it personally if you did, it's the masses I am upset with. I try not to be though, most aren't aware they aren't aware. It's a big mess we are in as humans, and is going to take extreme effort to fix it. I am just now coming to my senses about how important the goal is, and how it must be done.





Wow thats a really hard hitting argument there - so now I'm slightly above being mentally retarded am I?

And why is that?

1. For not blindly accepting the claims of a complete stranger.....
2. On an internet message board......
3. That Reptillian Aliens from the North Pole.....are taking over the world (very slowly by the sounds of it) with help from their super planes and stargates?

Definition time!!

retarded: relatively slow in mental or emotional or physical development;

Now please tell me if you don't agree, but do you not think that arguing your point by attacking my mental capacity and my lifestyle is a little childish? Or immature?

immature: lacking in development; "immature plans"; "an unformed character"

Not that I'm suggesting anything mind you.



I don't know your lifestyle for squat- and never claimed to know it. But listen when I tell you, if you are going to attack the truth watch out for the Arbiter attacking you back. I've never agreed with the ends justify the means. However, when it comes to people who are damaging/rude/ignorant, I don't give them much respect. You have to understand how much danger the human is from himself.

Humans have developed Nuclear Weapons. Red flag number one. And you wonder why all the UFO related activity since the 40's and 50's.

Also, if someone (you two bozos) asked for proof instead, then it would be a completely different discussion. By you attacking, prepare for the argument. Quite simple.

Do I agree with every ET-inspired person out there and their ideas? Hell no. However, I do stress my point. My point is that of complete freedom. And guess what, from what I have seen from Scientology they can offer it to you.

p.s. No i'm not in my 30's and 40's i'm a young blood. You'll know my name by the time i'm 40.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 09:44 AM
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Well another huge earth shattering, society changing, history re-writing most important historical event ever recorded event! Where do you come to report it - ATS....

Please, if you have a shread of sense and logic - go hide and stop filling these usually logically minded intelligent forums with your utter and balatantly obvious BS.

It's embaressing to have you on here - please, go away.

Now I have to be going because my pet is in the throws of an evolutionary leap and intends to steal my wife from me theough a combination of shape shifting and mind control, that damn Chuckwalla - he will be the end of me.



posted on Dec, 20 2006 @ 10:20 AM
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Every week we get a thread like this.

If someone really had proof, they wouldn't post it on ATS. (Sorry ATS)

At least with this one, they used a spell checker, so thats a plus.



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