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Originally posted by Think About IT
I would have to disagree with you. We are fighting muslim extremists everday in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Originally posted by bsbray11
Al Qaeda never fessed up to 9/11, either. I have no idea where you got that information, and as far as I know it is not true. Bin Laden allegedly made a home movie in which he talked about doing it, but this was a tape found by the US military in the basement of a bombed-out house in a bombed-out Afghani city, that the Pentagon released, rather than the usual al Jazeera. The person actually shown in the footage is also pretty disputed. A second tape later came out with the same guy in it, done a little less sloppily, but still suspicious in my view since a December 2001 video of Bin Laden showed him sickly and thin and he said absolutely nothing of having anything to do with 9/11.
In fact, Osama said several times, for several different Middle-Eastern sources right after 9/11, that he had absolutely nothing to do with the attacks. I could dig these up for you if you'd like.
And that's just Osama. Al Qaeda has never released any "official" statements or etc.
Originally posted by Think About IT
I would have to disagree with you. We are fighting muslim extremists everday in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is not like no one has ever seen a member of al qaeda before. There are countless of al qaeda videos and websites. It is an entire organization, not one man. too complex, and too much substantial evidence to just say al qaeda exists in name
Originally posted by syntaxer They simply did not exist until American black ops government decided to fabricate the enemy of a new american century.
Originally posted by deltaboy
The person in the confession tape was indeed Osama Bin Laden since I have proved it.
And not to mention that Osama Bin Laden in past has taken no responsibility of previous attacks against the U.S. like for example the embassy bombings, U.S.S. Cole, even though the perpetrators admitted they had been ordered by Osama himself.
And in fact there are videos officially from Al Qaeda
Originally posted by bsbray11
Originally posted by Think About IT
I would have to disagree with you. We are fighting muslim extremists everday in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Uh, the people we are fighting on a daily basis in Iraq and Afghanistan are people whose home countries we have invaded and killed thousands of innocents in, and in which we continue to kill innocents on a daily basis. They don't want us there, therefore some of them shoot at our soldiers and fight us.
It isn't because they're "extremists". If China invaded the US violently, killing masses of civilians, occupied it and enforced a communist government, I would hope most people here would be doing the same thing. From the point of view of a hostile Iraqi negatively affected by our war, this is exactly what has been done to their home country. It is not a reason to be more aggressive with them, and kill even more of them. This is complete insanity.
Originally posted by Think About IT
I was never attemtping to justify a war in Iraq or Afghanistan, I was merely saying that Al Qaeda does exist because our troops have physically fought against people who pledge allegiance to that organization.
Originally posted by bsbray11
Originally posted by Think About IT
I would have to disagree with you. We are fighting muslim extremists everday in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Uh, the people we are fighting on a daily basis in Iraq and Afghanistan are people whose home countries we have invaded and killed thousands of innocents in, and in which we continue to kill innocents on a daily basis. They don't want us there, therefore some of them shoot at our soldiers and fight us.
It isn't because they're "extremists". If China invaded the US violently, killing masses of civilians, occupied it and enforced a communist government, I would hope most people here would be doing the same thing. From the point of view of a hostile Iraqi negatively affected by our war, this is exactly what has been done to their home country. It is not a reason to be more aggressive with them, and kill even more of them. This is complete insanity.
originally quoted from www.whatreallyhappened.com...AL QAEDA WEBSITE TRACKS BACK TO ... MARYLAND???
Submitted by two readers. My comments follow.
Last night on CNN I heard them making a connection between the London bombings and an “Islamic terrorist” website called alneda.com. I tried to view the website but it’s been taken offline. I did find the following three year old reference to alneda.com on CNN: From: archives.cnn.com...
"These statements and others from al Qaeda have been appearing from time to time on a Web site called www.alneda.com.
"In recent months, the site, which experts suspect is closely linked to al Qaeda, also has posted manifestos signed "al Qaeda jihad" in which it says bin Laden is alive and well and preparing future attacks against the United States.”
Interesting "link" to al-Qaeda, as revealed by whois data for alneda.com:
[WHOIS ALNEDA.COM]
Registration Service Provided By: DIRECTI
Contact: +91.2256797500
Website: www.directi.com...
Domain Name: ALNEDA.COM
Registrant:
SFP, Inc
Jon David ([email protected])
Po 312
Berlin
Maryland,21811
US
Tel. +011.4107237089
Creation Date: 16-Jul-2002
Expiration Date: 16-Jul-2013
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Jon David, a fine Islamic sounding name, no doubt named after a martyr or prophet or some such. Located in that hotbed of terrorism, Berlin, Maryland USA.
Originally posted by SteveR
Guys please start to 'think' instead of getting all your opinions from FOX news et al.
But I am amazed at you. Even though we are in the fourth year after the events of September 11th, Bush is still engaged in distortion, deception and hiding from you the real causes. And thus, the reasons are still there for a repeat of what occurred.
So I shall talk to you about the story behind those events and shall tell you truthfully about the moments in which the decision was taken, for you to consider.
I say to you, Allah knows that it had never occurred to us to strike the towers. But after it became unbearable and we witnessed the oppression and tyranny of the American/Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it came to my mind.
The events that affected my soul in a direct way started in 1982 when America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American Sixth Fleet helped them in that. This bombardment began and many were killed and injured and others were terrorised and displaced.
I couldn't forget those moving scenes, blood and severed limbs, women and children sprawled everywhere. Houses destroyed along with their occupants and high rises demolished over their residents, rockets raining down on our home without mercy.
The situation was like a crocodile meeting a helpless child, powerless except for his screams. Does the crocodile understand a conversation that doesn't include a weapon? And the whole world saw and heard but it didn't respond.
In those difficult moments many hard-to-describe ideas bubbled in my soul, but in the end they produced an intense feeling of rejection of tyranny, and gave birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors.
And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon, it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressor in kind and that we should destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred from killing our women and children.