Check this (UFO) video out.

This video clip is pretty impressive. I would like to know more information on this UFO special. Anyone have anymore info on it?

See video clip

Check out the last video, that is really freaking impressive. That looked real, and its the first time that I see a still UFO just shoot out like that. I am at awe!

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[edit on 10/12/06 by masqua]

Thanks for the link Cabanman, I have not seen this footage before either. The man and his wife seemed genuine. The last part of the footage he shot was very interesting. Good find.

Ok I think it's pretty clear that if the last footage is genuine, there's no way it could be something we can call conventional... the acceleration is simply impossible. It's a rare case when we have an very suggesting footage and we actually can know who's the guy that taped it. Excellent find my friend. Now, it's time to debate about if this one is genuine or not.

That was definitely some good footage there. That last one looked pretty believable too, because it didn't just jump away in a flash of light, it actually looked as if it sped up. The second one was very good in my opinion, and I don't see how he could have faked that, the picture was too good, and it kept the same shape as he zoomed in and out, and I almost hate to say this (because so many people will claim he's a hoax), but the second one kind of looked like the spacecraft that Billy Meir encountered and filmed, which is pretty strange seeing that this one was so far away and you couldn't tell what it looked like until he zoomed in a good bit

Good finds, and even though they most likely are real, I'm sure someone will find a way to "explain" it; like that guy in the blue shirt, i have never seen a cloud look like that and be so isolated from any other cloud that may look similar.

[edit on 10/12/2006 by 7Pan7cho7]

Really I could find nothing to debunk this video, but, I also can not clear up the blurry parts, seeing as I do not have the software needed in doing this. But, if anyone here does, which I think a couple people do have, I can get the video and send it to you... What I think it was really, was a new type of jet, I can't really say for sure if it was stationary or not seeing as he was moving the camera so much...

The next 10 min. of the T.V. show from the Discovery Channel is this guy being debunked well and good. The cylindrical object is the external tank from the space shuttle and the others are filming tricks of standard objects.

Sombody disingenous posted only part of the video. Also watch the wife when she talks, it is pretty clear she doesn't even believe what she is saying. "I couldn't watch the UFO because I had to leave for work."

Yes, Riddle, it's a shame that the rest of the video was not included; it was vital. I wouldn't have said that the second video showed only a cloud - it looked nothing like any clouds I have ever seen!

I have a few important points to make:

The segment of video was actually from "Riddle of the skies", which was released in 1999 I think.

The final and most impressive UFO video was shot off a TV screen, I believe he lost the original tape and only has the 2nd generation copy.

David Spoor recorded another UFO near Lowestoft's coast, looked quite convincing too. The same area was shown in daylight which further backed up his claims. I shall see if I can find any frames from that, or even the full video.

I spoke to David Spoor, who filmed all the UFO videos seen on the Youtube copy, a few months ago. I run a website about a UFO incident which happened in Suffolk, as Spoor's UFO videos were taped in Suffolk I thought there could be a link between the two.
David supplied me with two very large pictures (I have resized them), they were still frames taken from his UFO videos. I would post them here, but only have permission to reproduce them on my website; I don't want to be accused of spamming my website's URL around either... so I will give you some 'Tinyurl' links instead.

Still frame from 1st video: /yxbhxr
Still frame from 2nd video: /y52edl






[edit on 10-12-2006 by JH80]

I appreciate your input, but... I think that the debunkers are wrong. You must remember that it is a Discovery Channel special, and they are known to DEBUNK everything UFO. That one guy doing the debunking presented only Ideas of what the object could have been, he did not present any scientific and conclusive proof that those indeed are space junk or so forth.

Those videos have to be the most credible ones that I have seen. I mean, they are pretty clear in that they are something that is not conventional. The last video is simply amazing! It really is something to watch. I really feel that these are the real deal. Of course, everything is debunkable, so go ahead and debunk it, but I have been in this field for a loooong time, and am not easily persuaded. I say that it is real, and that is my opinion.

I am going from memory here because it has been a while since I saw the full length video.

The cylindrical object was filmed within an hour or so of a shuttle launch proven by public record and the time stamp on the guy's camera. IIRC he even said when asked that it was possible.

The other guy interviewed was a video specialist who stated that the apparant movement of the objects in question was caused by the camera moving. That is especially courious considering the guy is supposed to be a professional videographer. An out of work videographer to boot. If he was moving the camera, intentionally or not, he should have known that he did and admitted it.

A few things about his story just do not add up. If you had video of a UFO, would you leave it in the camera or laying around where it could be taped over? No it goes under lock and key while handling is being arranged.

I think the guy caught the shuttle tank not knowing what it was and saw the interest it generated. He then decided to go into the UFO video business because he needed the money. He couldn't produce the first generation tape because it would expose the fraud.

The guy may have been out of work because he is a lousy videographer, as was demonstrated by the video specialist interviewed. He seems to be more of an amature trying to make a name for himself.

As far as the Discovery Channel debunking everything, it should be expected. Real UFO footage is rare to almost non-existant. Of the few cases Discovery has dealt with over the years, the chances of any of them being real is extremely small. Discovery has a reputation to protect (maybe not to you guys) and has to be careful with what claims it makes.

Okay I looked at the video all the way through this time... The first video really could have been either the american space craft or a cloud... The second video, it could have been anything it was a bit to fuzzy to pin point whatever exactly it was... It could have been some childs toy... Not exactly sure...

Originally posted by Riddle
I am going from memory here because it has been a while since I saw the full length video.

The cylindrical object was filmed within an hour or so of a shuttle launch proven by public record and the time stamp on the guy's camera. IIRC he even said when asked that it was possible.

I don't know, but I heard on the video that the shuttle was supposed to pass by that same day at around noon. The video was shot at around 7:40 in the evening.

The other guy interviewed was a video specialist who stated that the apparent movement of the objects in question was caused by the camera moving. That is especially curious considering the guy is supposed to be a professional videographer.

Dude, that does not, in anyway, look like the camera moving at all. He moves the camera AFTER the ship zoomed off and behind the house.

A few things about his story just do not add up. If you had video of a UFO, would you leave it in the camera or laying around where it could be taped over? No it goes under lock and key while handling is being arranged.

Yes, this might be true with a UFO hunter. But he was a camera man who did other work. He was not a UFO hunter. In the video it states that his line of work was to shoot film of nature and landscapes etc. He probably did not pay much attention to the UFO films, and this is why he is now kicking himself in the but, because he let this one go.

The guy may have been out of work because he is a lousy videographer, as was demonstrated by the video specialist interviewed. He seems to be more of an amature trying to make a name for himself.

Sounds like you got it in for this guy huh...

Your opinions aside, if you want to convince anyone that this is the case you should post the original video and let us decide for our selves. Your personal opinions, although appreciated, contribute little to the scientific approach on explaining this video.

As far as the Discovery Channel debunking everything, it should be expected. Real UFO footage is rare to almost non-existant. Of the few cases Discovery has dealt with over the years, the chances of any of them being real is extremely small. Discovery has a reputation to protect (maybe not to you guys) and has to be careful with what claims it makes.

Discovery Channel is a known Debunker Channel. They are known to bring in the hench men to Debunk most of the best videos, and do not bring in the big guns to refute them. When have you seen one of their shows bring, say, Bruce Maccabee. I bet if we had him on this show, he would bring some serious pain to their petty little debunker. And as for no legitimate Video being recorded? I will not even go in to that one, obviously you have little research done when talking about this topic. My suggestion to you, keep searching, and learn, don't DEBUNK with your personal opinion, it takes a lot more to accomplish this feat.


[edit on 10-12-2006 by Cabanman]

Originally posted by Riddle

The other guy interviewed was a video specialist who stated that the apparant movement of the objects in question was caused by the camera moving. That is especially courious considering the guy is supposed to be a professional videographer. An out of work videographer to boot. If he was moving the camera, intentionally or not, he should have known that he did and admitted it.

Another reason that would be "curious" is because there is obviously a house to the left and a street light to the right and neither of them move. He also didn't move the camera until after the object darted off. I'm sure if he had move the camera, he would've admitted it. But seeing that he didn't move the camera, I would be perplexed if he admitted to moving it to create the effect of the object darting off.

Originally posted by 7Pan7cho7
That was definitely some good footage there. That last one looked pretty believable too, because it didn't just jump away in a flash of light, it actually looked as if it sped up. The second one was very good in my opinion, and I don't see how he could have faked that, the picture was too good, and it kept the same shape as he zoomed in and out, and I almost hate to say this (because so many people will claim he's a hoax), but the second one kind of looked like the spacecraft that Billy Meir encountered and filmed, which is pretty strange seeing that this one was so far away and you couldn't tell what it looked like until he zoomed in a good bit

Good finds, and even though they most likely are real, I'm sure someone will find a way to "explain" it; like that guy in the blue shirt, i have never seen a cloud look like that and be so isolated from any other cloud that may look similar.

[edit on 10/12/2006 by 7Pan7cho7]

These video's are easy to fake, just because it zooms in and out with the camera doesn't mean you cant fake it. Check out the thread in my sig if you don't believe me. Faking these video's is not hard at all. That of course doesn't mean they are faked but.. Occam's Razor

Originally posted by JackJuice

These video's are easy to fake, just because it zooms in and out with the camera doesn't mean you cant fake it. Check out the thread in my sig if you don't believe me. Faking these video's is not hard at all. That of course doesn't mean they are faked but.. Occam's Razor

I don't believe that anyone can do a job that might even get close to this. Most CGI is spotted off-hand. Easily.

Occam's razor, a good theory, but not true 100% of the time. Sometimes the simplest explanation is not the best. Sometimes things are more complicated than they seem. And sometimes the complicated are correct.

Originally posted by Cabanman

I don't believe that anyone can do a job that might even get close to this. Most CGI is spotted off-hand. Easily.

Occam's razor, a good theory, but not true 100% of the time. Sometimes the simplest explanation is not the best. Sometimes things are more complicated than they seem. And sometimes the complicated are correct.

I would disagree, did you see the video I made in the thread How to make a fake UFO video in my signature? It's not completely perfect but with plenty of feedback i will be able too soon.

Your right no theory is 100 percent true. Else it would be a Law.

Here's a video of a ufo that almost took the guy's heads off! Good thing they know precision flying. Almost seems like the guys could have reached up and touched the saucer as it flew over their heads. Whew!
Low flying ufo...Duck!

Originally posted by SkyWay
Here's a video of a ufo that almost took the guy's heads off! Good thing they know precision flying. Almost seems like the guys could have reached up and touched the saucer as it flew over their heads. Whew!

Low flying ufo...Duck!

Are you serious? I don't even have to say anything to prove that's fake, especially if you have seen it with the audio left in. I know that we all have different levels of believing, but you need some skepticism skyway. It seems that you just absorb whatever is fed to you and accept it as truth, if that's true, then be careful in the future.

@ jack

I know you can fake these videos, i just don't think that these were. You will have to excuse my comments from earlier, as it was around 3:30 AM here when i posted them. I now realize that they really aren't all that coherent and would also like to clarify that I am not saying that "Billy" Meier is 100% true, I think he had his moments, but then either he or one of the people on the committee in charge of what is released from him got a bit greedy and started to feed us BS.

You can fake anything, that's why it's hard for some to believe, but when you truly think about it, what can you believe without having a little faith?

Originally posted by 7Pan7cho7
Are you serious? I don't even have to say anything to prove that's fake, especially if you have seen it with the audio left in. I know that we all have different levels of believing, but you need some skepticism skyway. It seems that you just absorb whatever is fed to you and accept it as truth, if that's true, then be careful in the future.

You couldn't be more wrong. There are many ufo photos and films that I do not accept as real. But why post those? They're fake. Why waste people's time with such stuff. Could you please give me your reasons for declaring that the video is false? It's not very scientific or logical to just dismiss something and expect others to accept your word alone.

And if you want to see true skepticism I'll show you. You are a little too easy in accepting Jack's claim that he is the one who produced the video that he linked to. How do you know he REALLY is the person who made the video? If you were a true skeptic you wouldn't naively accept his claim. I could easily claim that the video was produced by me, and if everyone naively accepted the claim without demanding proof they would all be fooled.

I won't believe that Jack made that video that he linked too until he proves it by going on Youtube and posts on THAT PERSON'S VIDEO REMARKS THAT "HE IS THE PERSON FROM ATS WHO POSTED A LINK TO THAT VIDEO FROM THIS THREAD." Then I will be convinced that he actually is the person who made that video because only that person can log into that person's account and post a remark in the box that describes that video. How's that for skepticism? I require proof. It is YOU who needs to be a bit more skeptical in this case.

One more thing...If Jack cannot prove that he is the person who made that video then it may well be a FALSE CLAIM on his part that the video is fake. Because if he isn't the person who made the video then how can anyone know that it is actually fake? Maybe it is a video of an actual ufo that was taken by another person than Jack.

[edit on 10-12-2006 by SkyWay]

Originally posted by SkyWay

You couldn't be more wrong. There are many ufo photos and films that I do not accept as real. But why post those? They're fake. Why waste people's time with such stuff. Could you please give me your reasons for declaring that the video is false? It's not very scientific or logical to just dismiss something and expect others to accept your word alone.

And if you want to see true skepticism I'll show you. You are a little too easy in accepting Jack's claim that he is the one who produced the video that he linked to. How do you know he REALLY is the person who made the video? If you were a true skeptic you wouldn't naively accept his claim. I could easily claim that the video was produced by me, and if everyone naively accepted the claim without demanding proof they would all be fooled.

I won't believe that Jack made that video that he linked too until he proves it by going on Youtube and posts on THAT PERSON'S VIDEO REMARKS THAT "HE IS THE PERSON FROM ATS WHO POSTED A LINK TO THAT VIDEO FROM THIS THREAD." Then I will be convinced that he actually is the person who made that video because only that person can log into that person's account and post a remark in the box that describes that video. How's that for skepticism? I require proof. It is YOU who needs to be a bit more skeptical in this case.

One more thing...If Jack cannot prove that he is the person who made that video then it may well be a FALSE CLAIM on his part that the video is fake. Because if he isn't the person who made the video then how can anyone know that it is actually fake? Maybe it is a video of an actual ufo that was taken by another person than Jack.

[edit on 10-12-2006 by SkyWay]

I Salute your Skepticism , My video must be pretty good for you to us this line so i will accept it as a compliment. Seriously though, how does me proving that the youtube account is mine prove whether the video is fake or not? I could of easily gotten that video somewhere else and just posted it to my youtube account. So I decided to take it step further than just proving the account. I have just recently posted the source footage of the video to my youtube account. As you can see there is no UFO there. It was all an act, and the UFO was composited in.

Source Footage

Well there you have it, I await your responce SkyWay.

[edit on 12/10/2006 by JackJuice]

Originally posted by JH80

I spoke to David Spoor, who filmed all the UFO videos seen on the Youtube copy, a few months ago. I run a website about a UFO incident which happened in Suffolk, as Spoor's UFO videos were taped in Suffolk I thought there could be a link between the two.
[edit on 10-12-2006 by JH80]

JH80, since you have spoken to David Spoor personally, what type of crediblity does he have? Would he have anything to gain from faking these videos? If not, then what would motivate him to come forward with these unless he believed they were true evidence.