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Originally posted by notsosmart
Is there hard evidence to contradict these eyewitnesses such as other eyewitness testimony that says there were no sub-basement explosions or that these witnesses were not really there or something else?
www.911myths.com...
The obvious weakness with this argument is its attempt to say that, if an elevator doesn’t “serve all floors”, then the shaft could not provide a path for jet fuel to reach the basement. NIST tell us that Car #49, for instance, served basement floors 1-5, and floors 41-74. But then what? Is it safe to assume that a lift servicing no floors higher than 74 is effectively hermetically sealed at that point? Or could there still be a path the fuel might have taken?
We smelled kerosene,” Mike recalled, “I was thinking maybe a car fire was upstairs”, referring to the parking garage located below grade in the tower but above the deep space where they were working.
The two decided to ascend the stairs to the C level, to a small machine shop where Vito Deleo and David Williams were supposed to be working. When the two arrived at the C level, they found the machine shop gone.
Sirius, whose primary duty was checking trucks and unattended bags for bombs at the World Trade Center, died along with 37 members of the Port Authority Police Department when the towers collapsed on the morning of Sept. 11.
After the buildings were struck by hijacked jetliners, Lim left Sirius in the Port Authority's kennel in the basement of the South Tower while he assisted with the rescue efforts. He promised the dog he would soon return to get him. After the towers collapsed, Lim's fellow officers and firefighters had to restrain him from trying to return to the 4-year-old dog
A dog trainer was sentenced to 6 1/2 years in prison Monday for providing
defective bomb-sniffing dogs to the government after the 11 Sep 2001
attacks and lying about their credentials. Russell Lee Ebersole,
convicted in June 2003 on 27 counts of fraud, insisted his dogs were
competent and blamed his conviction on jealous competitors. ...
Ebersole's Detector Dogs Against Drugs and Explosives, of Stephenson, Va.,
provided bomb-sniffing dogs to several federal agencies in the months
after the 9/11 attacks. The agencies paid Ebersole $700,000 from Sep 2001
to May 2002. Ebersole's contracts were canceled after his dogs failed
independent tests on five different occasions. On one test, dogs were
unable to detect 50 pounds of dynamite and 15 pounds of C-4 plastic
explosives hidden at the Federal Reserve parking garage in Washington.
Originally posted by bsbray11
Yeah: they don't always work.
A dog trainer was sentenced to 6 1/2 years in prison Monday for providing
defective bomb-sniffing dogs to the government after the 11 Sep 2001
attacks and lying about their credentials. Russell Lee Ebersole,
convicted in June 2003 on 27 counts of fraud, insisted his dogs were
competent and blamed his conviction on jealous competitors. ...
Ebersole's Detector Dogs Against Drugs and Explosives, of Stephenson, Va.,
provided bomb-sniffing dogs to several federal agencies in the months
after the 9/11 attacks. The agencies paid Ebersole $700,000 from Sep 2001
to May 2002. Ebersole's contracts were canceled after his dogs failed
independent tests on five different occasions. On one test, dogs were
unable to detect 50 pounds of dynamite and 15 pounds of C-4 plastic
explosives hidden at the Federal Reserve parking garage in Washington.
www.newsday.com...
Ok, and I'm not even bringing up the fact that we don't even know what KIND of explosive was used or if these dogs were trained to detect them even IF they could smell them from wherever the hell they were in the building. It just isn't reliable information to have, or in any way conclusive of anything. Those were big buildings.
PS -- Does anyone know if the WTC had bomb-sniffing dogs employed during the 1993 bombing?
[edit on 30-11-2006 by bsbray11]
Hello CameronFox:
1. I thought the bomb sniffing dogs were pulled from the job according to 911 Mysteries DVD.
2. The external source talks about the poor dogs death and doesn't confirm if he was actually sniffing for hidden and or well placed explosives prior to the planes hitting the building.
Thanks for your input CameronFox
Police K9 Sirius was a bomb detection dog with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey Police Department. He and his handler, Police Officer David Lim, were assigned to the World Trade Center, where they often searched hundreds of trucks and vehicles each day, as part of America's "War on Terrorism." Sirius was the only police dog killed by the terrorists on September 11th and, perhaps, the only American police dog ever killed by international terrorists.
On the morning of September 11th, Officer Lim and Sirius were at the Port Authority police station located in the basement of the World Trade Center's north tower. Officer Lim heard the sound of an explosion and thought that a bomb had gone off inside the building. Lim commented to Sirius, "...one must have gotten by us." Of course, that was not the case because the explosion Lim heard was caused not by a surreptitiously placed bomb, but by one of the hijacked planes crashing into the building.
Originally posted by CameronFox
BsBray. If you read the interview with the dog's handler, you will see that he hears an explosion . Somewhat contradicting the story of the janitors story. ( However i am not sure if they were both in the south tower)
"...one must have gotten by us."
Originally posted by bsbray11
Why couldn't it be a bomb that destroyed a machine shop and lower-level elevators, opposed to anything else? If people can believe a fireball flew down various elevator shafts to somehow do it, what makes a bomb less probable here?
Originally posted by notsosmart
LeftBehind: There would be no evidence of explosives even if there were explosives. They blow up and would be completely gone. If they were planted by explosive experts in a way that no one was to know about, then they would make sure there would be no remaining evidence.