Lucifer/Satan is a friend and guide to all.

I had a funky dream/vision and it took place during the time of the antichrist reign of terror. It had Satan in it and he was not nice, he lied alot and punished unreasonably in cruel and unusual ways.

well, god punished people unreasonably in cruel and unusual ways, far more than the most brutal dictators of our time can ever hope to boast. Your vision aside, satan hasn't done anything to anybody, it is god that throws you into hell, not satan.

Yeah, I think the bible god was actually an evil force all along that played tricks on people and lied to them about the goodness of Lucifer. I mean if you want to be a slave to a cruel and evil master so be it, but don't expect me to throw my chips in with him. I've opened my heart to Lucifer and I've seen the light.

Originally posted by laiguana
I've opened my heart to Lucifer and I've seen the light.

What form did the light hold? Tell me more. You seem to have changed direction from your earlier posts on this thread, or were you dripping sarcasm all along?

Originally posted by laiguana
Yeah, I think the bible god was actually an evil force all along that played tricks on people and lied to them about the goodness of Lucifer. I mean if you want to be a slave to a cruel and evil master so be it, but don't expect me to throw my chips in with him. I've opened my heart to Lucifer and I've seen the light.

Yeah but Jesus isn't like that. So doesn't that makes Jesus better than God?

Originally posted by laiguana
Yeah, I think the bible god was actually an evil force all along that played tricks on people and lied to them about the goodness of Lucifer. I mean if you want to be a slave to a cruel and evil master so be it, but don't expect me to throw my chips in with him. I've opened my heart to Lucifer and I've seen the light.

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Lucifer is supposed to be on Earth, not hell the way I learned it. Didn't God make hell? Doesn't God own hell? So doesn't that mean that lucifer does not send people to hell and God does? So that means lucifer is testing us doesn't it?

[edit on 2-12-2006 by wildcat]

Originally posted by wildcat

[Lucifer is supposed to be on Earth, not hell the way I learned it. Didn't God make hell? Doesn't God own hell? So doesn't that mean that lucifer does not send people to hell and God does? So that means lucifer is testing us doesn't it?

Very good point you have made, Wildcat. Is this reality hell? We do share it with Lucifer itself, don't we?

Then maybe the beast is someone else and not lucifer. Lucifer was suppoley and angel of God who rejected him. But the problem is, I learned that angels do not have free will so then lucifer never has the free will to reject God.

In the old testament does it not say we are in "Lucifer's" dominion?

Does that not make "Lucifer" the embodyment of God in this realm?

And was Jesus not the son of the God of this realm?

so, if the bible is correct, then isn't Jesus the son of Lucifer?

just a thought.

[edit on 2-12-2006 by Esoteric Teacher]

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
In the old testament does it not say we are in "Lucifer's" dominion?
Does that not make "Lucifer" the embodyment of God in this realm?
And was Jesus not the son of the God of this realm?
so, if the bible is correct, then isn't Jesus the son of Lucifer?
just a thought.

This reminds me of the Argument about Carrots cause cancer.

99% of all people that have cancer have eaten carrots..

Therefore Carrots Cause Cancer.

Words can paint one picture, but the truth is the truth.

Let he who has ears let him hear....

Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they don't see, and hearing, they don't hear, neither do they understand.

Jesus the Son of Lucifer? You should read before you post....

But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, "This man does not cast out demons, except by Beelzebul, the prince of the demons."

25 Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.

26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?

Last post on this thread..The sarcasm is not constructive..

Peace









[edit on 2-12-2006 by HIFIGUY]

Originally posted by GreatTech
God is the Ultimate friend and guide for all of us and we should never sway from His paths.

Absolutley! And Christ said: "Love thy enemies".

I highly recommend you do not follow the path of Lucifer/Satan.

Oh. nevermind. don't love your enemies.

Originally posted by HIFIGUY

Jesus the Son of Lucifer? You should read before you post....

or you should clear your mind before you read. clear your mind of your "opinion".

But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, "This man does not cast out demons, except by Beelzebul, the prince of the demons."

So, in the eyes of the Pharisees, the man of which they spoke of could only cast out demons because he was ruler of hell?

25 Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.

So, the son of god is against the kingdom being divided, because if the kingdom is divided into a heaven and a hell, then both are brought to desolation, and every city or house will not stand? So, if "hell" is permitted to exist seperate of god's domain, then god's domain will also not stand, and also be desolate? Or should i see something else was meant?

26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?

But, if Satan casts out his highest in command, Lucifer, then where does Lucifer get cast to? Heaven or earth?

Or, if Lucifer was cast out of heaven, would Hell or Satan accept the angel that was once one of god's mightiest angels?


[edit on 2-12-2006 by Esoteric Teacher]

Originally posted by HIFIGUY

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
In the old testament does it not say we are in "Lucifer's" dominion?
Does that not make "Lucifer" the embodyment of God in this realm?
And was Jesus not the son of the God of this realm?
so, if the bible is correct, then isn't Jesus the son of Lucifer?
just a thought.

This reminds me of the Argument about Carrots cause cancer.

99% of all people that have cancer have eaten carrots..

Therefore Carrots Cause Cancer.

Words can paint one picture, but the truth is the truth.

Let he who has ears let him hear....

Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they don't see, and hearing, they don't hear, neither do they understand.

Jesus the Son of Lucifer? You should read before you post....

But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, "This man does not cast out demons, except by Beelzebul, the prince of the demons."

25 Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.

26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?

Last post on this thread..The sarcasm is not constructive..

Peace

You are right. your sarcasm is not constructive.

I asked four questions.


In the old testament does it not say we are in "Lucifer's" dominion?
Does that not make "Lucifer" the embodyment of God in this realm?
And was Jesus not the son of the God of this realm?
so, if the bible is correct, then isn't Jesus the son of Lucifer?

Did you answer the questions? NO! (no sarcasm there).

the truth is the truth, thanks for that. I asked four questions and your response began with:

This reminds me of the Argument about Carrots cause cancer.

99% of all people that have cancer have eaten carrots..

Therefore Carrots Cause Cancer.

And ended with:

Last post on this thread..The sarcasm is not constructive..

Peace

yes. the truth is the truth.

[edit on 2-12-2006 by Esoteric Teacher]

Lucifer:

The epiphany for the friction match occurred with the addition of a phosphorus component to the match, Charles Sauria, a French chemistry student, did this in 1830. Phosphorus is itself not the fuel, but acts as the initiator for the flame. Phosphorus-oxygen bonds are very strong (P-O 407 kJ mol-1, P=O 560 kJ mol-1) and hence their formation releases plenty of energy to initiate the lucifer match reaction:

Sb2S3 + 3KClO3 ® Sb2O3 + 3KCl + 3SO2

Visual Aids

From Celebrating 180 years of friction-match ignition!

11 - 27 - 2008

11 - 9 - 10 (mirror) 01-9-11????

There's that persistent little reminder, again....9-11-01



Lucifer says: one cannot put out fire of hate with fire of napalm, jet fuel, and torch-like oil geysers....

Only with fire of love's passion can hate be overcome.

MAKE LOVE NOT WAR.

That's Lucifer's never ending litany....

MAKE LOVE NOT WAR
MAKE LOVE NOT WAR
MAKE LOVE NOT WAR
MAKE LOVE NOT WAR
MAKE LOVE NOT WAR
MAKE LOVE NOT WAR
MAKE LOVE NOT WAR
MAKE LOVE NOT WAR
MAKE LOVE NOT WAR



1968 wasn't nothin'....

Just wait till Lucifer turns 40!

LOVE the victor will saunter confidently into the hippie shack....settle into the paisley bean-bag....with 'sparky' the fire dog ....and love will be here 2 LOVE IN and 2 stay forever more....

HATE will be CAST OUT without reconsideration - intolerance will not be tolerated.

Not more 'haight' at ashbury....

I love you queenannie!

eye luv ewe 2

my beloved ET

(((((((((xoxoxox))))))))))

why the reference to Haight Ashbury, Annie. I for one will always remember the Haight as one of my most interesting places to live for several months. Such idealism, although crushed out by opposing forces

Hell is supposed to be nice and hot and it's #ing cold here. So I don't think this is hell...
And do people really think heaven is full of puffy clouds? Like would everyone in heaven be like a carebear? I did like the carebears, but the carebears are friends of Lucifer too.

Originally posted by laiguana
Hell is supposed to be nice and hot and it's #ing cold here. So I don't think this is hell...
And do people really think heaven is full of puffy clouds? Like would everyone in heaven be like a carebear? I did like the carebears, but the carebears are friends of Lucifer too.

If carebears are friends of Lucifer then they are the ENEMY of Christ. I would call my fellow Christians together and kill carebears for Jesus.

I would like to comment on these questions..

In the old testament does it not say we are in "Lucifer's" dominion?
Does that not make "Lucifer" the embodyment of God in this realm?
And was Jesus not the son of the God of this realm?
so, if the bible is correct, then isn't Jesus the son of Lucifer?
just a thought.

We are in 'Lucifer's dominion' ... because we are run by him... (The FLESH... the 'LIGHT' Bringer)...... The FLESH Carries the LIGHT within..

embodiment

noun
1. a new personification of a familiar idea; "the embodiment of hope"; "the incarnation of evil"; "the very avatar of cunning"
2. a concrete representation of an otherwise nebulous concept; "a circle was the embodiment of his concept of life" [syn: shape]
3. giving concrete form to an abstract concept

in this line of thinking .. Lucifer(the FLESH) ..Being the embodiment of GOD is correct...
because of the THOUGHT being in a FLESH body causes the THOUGHT to take on a different form.. (either good or bad)

And was Jesus not the son of the God of this realm?
excellent question ....
no he was not... he said himself.. NOT OF THIS WORLD..
His father was the one in 'heaven' .. or rather ... his Father was the highest vibrational frequency.. not the lowest one.. this is hard to explain using the old terminology.. (god/son/father/satan etc) ..
but to put it simply.. Jesus was NOT the Son of Lucifer / (THE FLESH)... but of THOUGHT... he was the Son of the entangible. (made tangible)

so, if the bible is correct, then isn't Jesus the son of Lucifer?

That is misread information ... Lucifer/The Flesh is actually Jesus' Brother.. (both of them got along fantastically) .. Jesus(Tangible)awakened Christ(entangible) within him... to control the FLESH(tangible)/Lucifer(entangible) without him.. ..**They got along fantastically because finally Jesus, just told his brother to shutup and pay attention..**

You know the bible is thousands of pages for a reason... its hard to explain this crap in a few paragraphs..

[edit on 12/3/2006 by PuRe EnErGy]

Originally posted by interestedalways
why the reference to Haight Ashbury, Annie. I for one will always remember the Haight as one of my most interesting places to live for several months. Such idealism, although crushed out by opposing forces

Well, firstly as a play on words

haight = hate
meaning not those who overran those streets that summer but the hate that the constricted 'other' public responded with for lack of anything to aid their understanding of what the 'inner' agenda was (only judging by the effects of overcrowding, masses of younger people in various states of chemical enhancement...etc)

ashbury = ash & bury
bury for 'bury the hatchet!'
ash for ashes as in the following words which are dear to me:

To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn; To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified. And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations.
~Isaiah 61:2-4

especially the part in bold (so descriptive to my perception!)

I was born in 1968 - and somehow the energy of the generation infused into me....something i've carried all my years...

I am truly a flower child and believe in love and freedom (through the most essential basic truth) and above all PEACE.

I just don't see how anything else could ever be acceptable, in the long run, for our people on this planet....what is better than peace and joy?

The things of that era, that were judged so harshly as 'wrong' by the preceding generation(s). were FAR FAR less evil and destructive on all levels than the illusory prosperity and gloomy dread that has overshadowed the 3 decades since then....

I'm totally dedicated to resurrecting that pure attitude in the heart of mankind....
TOTALLY.

And it won't be for just a summer or a couple or three years - centralized in San Francisco or Woodstock NY....it will be worldwide and everlasting!