Help me out please ?

Originally posted by D3C0D3
Please some one tell me if this is some thing every one goes through at the late age of 18 or what...

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[edit on 28-11-2006 by D3C0D3]

Hi, my name is Simon, if u hadn't guessed, im 19, from the UK. Basically what you said is something that brought a tear to my eye, because its something i have realised about myself, yet i can't really explain it to anyone without being ridiculed, as much as i know others have experienced it.

The feeling your describing is a slight ecstacy, is it not? It is similar to the feeling you get after spanking the monkey

I get the tingling, all my hair stands up on end all over my body. I can only describe it as a moment of ecstacy, but i can summon it whenever i listen to music i like. As you said, you need to be in the right mood though.

The part about telekinesis and flying in dreams... i had several dreams over the past few months which involved both those things...

As to what it is...some people call it Chi, some call it prana, but really in my opinion it is just you making a connection to your higher self for a short time. The trick is being able to keep the connection, but this requires no fear or negativity at all; With great power comes great responsibility.

I really recommend meditation. You will be able to magnify the feeling/energy so much more once you learn to control your mind.

Originally posted by D3C0D3
For a while now ( maybe 3 months ) I have been getting these feelings i cannot describe ...

It feels like an energy source or some thing , I cannot describe it well .

It is like a sensation that goes throughout my body that makes my spine tingle , Makes me have goose bumps , Makes me have alot of tears in my eye's and makes my pupils get really small or really big

D3c0d3 (mind if I call you Dec?), welcome to ATS. You came to the right place, for whatever it is you seek, you'll find the answer you want to see here.

As you've probably noticed by now, there's a lot of people who are going to be only too happy to tell you exactly what's happening to you, and each will have a different opinion. Some are going to call it magic, some are going to call it hormones, and others are going to call it religion. The first thing you need to do is figure out what answer you want to hear.

I like to consider myself one of the "normals" here. I keep an open mind about a lot of things, have dabbled in a little bit of everything, but I don't like jumping to conclusions any more than I like dismissing possibilities.

That said, it sounds pretty much exactly like what I went through when I was around your age, and for all the world, it sounds like hormones. I don't mean that in a dismissive sort of way. From your nick, I can guess that you're male (females tend not to use 13375p34k in my experience) and probably a bit into computers, and your desire to bring this to a web forum rather than a personal forum of close friends implies a bit of an introverted personality.

Which is fine, I'm an introvert myself, as are my closest meat-friends. However, at your age, the body is "feeling its oats" so to speak. Your testosterone is going through the roof, your muscles are craving activity, and basically the reptillian brain (that is the primitive part of the brain, not the Lizard-men stuff you'll also find on ATS) is wanting to prove itself as a man. At the same time, your emotions are going haywire. I'm guessing you have some pretty wide swings between mania and depression, usually settling somewhere below the "contentment" line most of the time. However, also being male, you are taught your entire life not to let your emotions show, and to bottle up what you are feeling.

As a result, your body is a lot like a can of soda, and the movie is shaking it up because you're being shown all the things you'd really like to do yourself, but don't actually do in real life. Do this enough times, and your mind learns the right triggers to bring this feeling around again, and that usually involves putting yourself into the same frame of mind you were in during the movie.

Now, if you want to take the "energy" approach, my theory still stands. You're at your peak right now, as far as energy goes, and I'm guessing you probably don't get a lot of physical excercise, or if you do, that it's not focused. Start learning how to focus your energy into something physical. For me, it's yardwork and home improvements (which you really start to enjoy later on). I reckon your folks would be only too happy to have you working in the yard, but I doubt that's what you want to do with your free time.

My belief is that you are an only child (or a child seperated from siblings by more than just a few years), and you enjoyed the movie 'The Matrix'. You probably also like superhero movies but don't read much. You didn't do well in school either, from what I can gather, and are coming to grips with a life after high school where college probably isn't an option.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, only you will know how close I am, and you don't even have to acknowledge it here, but if I am right, please consider my words.

From reading this thread, I am going to offer the suggestion of therapy. You may be battling with the onset of a depressive state that could last for a long time if not treated. Delusions of Grandeur aren't common in depressive states, but the realization that your delusions aren't reality could throw you for a loop.

I am not trying to give you a diagnosis, there could be a myraid of things that a therapist could help you with if given enough time. But if you found any truth in my first paragraph, you owe it to yourself to check out OTHER posibilities for the feelings you have.

Hope this helps

Originally posted by HankMcCoy
My belief is that you are an only child (or a child seperated from siblings by more than just a few years), and you enjoyed the movie 'The Matrix'. You probably also like superhero movies but don't read much. You didn't do well in school either, from what I can gather, and are coming to grips with a life after high school where college probably isn't an option.

I am not a only sibiling , I have 2 very close to me . A brother and sister.

You are right about the school thing , I droped out in the 8-9th grade.

I dident really like the matrix to much , It was kind of boring to me.

I dont like most superhero movies ? X-men , Spiderman , And stuff like that.
Although i am excited to see the silver surfer movie coming up this summer , The cgi looks pretty good in it.



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[edit on 14-2-2007 by sanctum]

Well,I am too lazy to read all the posts but has anyone mentioned that it is possibly the final stages of growing pains,I experienced all kinds of weird "out of body" feelings when I was 17-18.I remember getting really scared and complaining to my mother how strange I was feeling...Growing pains,don't worry about it,they will fade out.

Yeah these arent growing "pain's"

Thanks anyways..

Originally posted by D3C0D3
Yeah these arent growing "pain's"

Well, you seem quite certain, and you know yourself better than we do.

Very well, let's assume they aren't growing pains. Let's assume you've found a way to tap into your chi (or whatever term you'd like to use for your natural wellspring of energy). Then there are three things you need to decide for yourself.

1. Are you absolutley certain you want to persue this? I realize in movies, anime, books, and other media make "magic" or "energy use" or whatever you want to call it seem glamorous, adventurous, or fun, but to tell the truth, it's a real pain in the arse. It's opening a door you can never quite close again, even when you decide to give it up. Assuming that you're the Real Deal, then for the rest of your life, you will have to deal with the drama that "costume witches" create, and when you're not dealing with them or trying to avoid them, you have to deal with drama from people and things who actually know what they are doing, who don't consider it a game of tag. I was in the scene long enough to see some people become burnt out for life, others go completely nuts, and still more become something horrible on the inside. Of the few "good ones" I knew (of which I considered myself one), their lives consisted of a never-ending stream of drama that sucked all the joy and normalcy from their lives.

So don't enter into this kind of thing lightly. This kind of decision should be on the scale of whether or not you get married, or whether or not you have a kid, because, I do not say this to excite you, it will change the rest of your bloody life around, for the rest of your life, and not for the better, even if you try to quit.


2. Are you prepared to accept the consequences of your own actions? Every action you take has a ripple effect through the world. The further out from you, the less the strength and effect of the ripple. Something as simple as which door you walk through in a building lobby, or what soda you pick from a vending machine, has far-reaching consequences you might never see, some of which could be fatal to yourself and others. That's with normal, mundane actions.

Now add magic to that. Magic turns that ripple into a tsunami. The consequences of every magical action you take will have amplified effects that might just turn out to be uncontrollable as they are unpredictable. What seemed like a good idea at the time might end up ruining the lives of people you love and care for. This is a hard enough risk to comprehend and understand with a normal mundane life. The risk and consequences in a magic one are staggering.


3. If you're certain you want to, and you're certain you're prepared to face the consequences of it, the next thing to do is ask yourself why. Is it to be special? Is it for money? Is it for fame? Popularity? For a girl? What do you hope to gain from this?

Sounds to me to be Energie in side of your self coming out you can control it leanr to use it but as of such Earth does not allow you to use a lot of it laws and what not .

Sorry i cant help much more then that

Originally posted by thelibra
3. If you're certain you want to, and you're certain you're prepared to face the consequences of it, the next thing to do is ask yourself why. Is it to be special? Is it for money? Is it for fame? Popularity? For a girl? What do you hope to gain from this?

I dont know what i would use it for , Once the time comes but i think it would be to help out people on earth , OR just to take use of it in private.

I must have this for a reason not just by axident. I want to find out for what reason .

I cannot just pass this up , Since i was little i dident want to be like normal people , I felt dissconnected , I felt like this whole earth was not my home almost.

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[edit on 14-2-2007 by sanctum]

Wat u really want deep down is freedom as do i

Im trying to post an avatar and its below the size it has to be , And its a jpg , BUT every time i save it in my profile it just resets the feild... Im hosting it on imageshack.us.

Any help would be cool.

thanks.

Hi D3,

What you have explained is quite unusual but VERY familiar to people i have met and so myself at a younger age (1992/3)

1) The "chills" could relate to a nervous issue but it sounds like you could be enjoying this feeling,not? In the beginning when it happened you were not too scared maybe but like "wow,what just happened to me?" And so the 2nd,3rd time until you started getting used to it and "liking" the feeling in a way and soon you started or trying in. gaining control over these feelings,almost emo teary chill but a feeling of something nice and weird happening...watching a good movie or listening to a great song ,mine was more music where you experience it more with movies..could it be triggering a state of mind

2)You now feel like you can almost or you are trying to control these feelings and take it one step further as to maybe leave your body,or having a underlying psychic power or easier as the term "telekinesis" ,knowing something is going to happen,i was never accurate to what but important things did happen when i felt that and which in sleep or a relaxing state you/me could experiencing an OBE.

I myself have had chills,but different to "scary" chills which with months i started dreaming i am floating,i could control my soul,basically i could play around with my soul ..it will sound "stupid" but take it as you want to ..i could example float above my body go back in my body and i would start to do a spin,difficult to explain i will try,i would be lying on top of myself and start rotating doing 360's non stop but my head in soul would stay with my head of my body like a "connector",hope you understand this explanation,and while doing this i would laugh and feel in control,i could travel i thought..astro,though i have NEVER read up about it,well how to do it,i never heard of people at that time who experienced the same feeling.

Months,or maybe a year or so later when it did happen i started to feel i am being watched,ignorance got the better of me and one night as i started i had a feeling not to leave my body but i could not stop myself from leaving and then whap!! i just could not get back,i admit i did not feel anything holding on to me,it was just like i struggled to get back to my body, struggling with "myself" ,i did manage and i was scared.I was scared to sleep,then one night i woke up and i saw myself lying,i tried to float/fly back i could not do it,i was screaming but nothing came of it..no voice,someone or something intervened and i slipped back into my body easy as pie.

Dr's .meds,tests..all was taken @ my mom's request and nothing wrong exe insomnia,it happened a couple of times in few months,but i seeked help of a Spiritual nature where i was helped.

I have serious respect for people who do astro,i won't try it again no matter how great the feeling as i believe i nothing good awaits me on that side/dimension.

I have believed for years it was neurological,i don't anymore i believe mine was spiritual,they tricked me,giving me a "gift" but boy was i gonna pay for this gift.

I could not handle it,if i get those feelings i stop and get busy with something else ..i also need to mention i was dj'ing in nightclubs at that stage,for 16 yrs until i stopping in 2005.

I cannot stress if this is the same.. as your feelings are so so similar to which i have had,when it happens while you watch a certain movie,stop and get busy by doing something else where you can focus on something different,give no gap,no gap ..never write it of to neurological problems,it could be neuro but so it could be more spiritual and no good spiritual experience.



[edit on 10-2-2007 by qonone]

I love all these explanations ,I still think It's just the bones and muscle,brain tissue at a state of growth at that age,really,I remember it well.

ITs not growing pains and its getting very annoying reading these " Growing pain " Responces from people who do no understand my posts or only read 1 or two of them.

I know no one is going to be able to tell me how to take use of this , But it would be helpfull if some people chimed in on what they did with it.

Originally posted by D3C0D3
ITs not growing pains and its getting very annoying reading these " Growing pain " Responces from people who do no understand my posts or only read 1 or two of them.

Welcome to the joy of internet forums. That's going to be a standard of any forum. On the bright side though, ATS has a much higher ratio of people who actually read your posts before responding than most forums. Still, you're going to find most people only reply to the original post (OP).

Originally posted by D3C0D3
I know no one is going to be able to tell me how to take use of this , But it would be helpfull if some people chimed in on what they did with it.

Oh, I'm sure quite a few could tell you how to take use of it, the problem is that there's a certain responsibility that goes along with the teaching. It's kind of like giving a kid their first gun, and teaching them how to use it. It's a lot of responsibility for the kid, but NOTHING compared to the responsibility of the adult who gave the gun. Since no one here can really view you in person, they can't really judge your character, and basically have no idea whether or not you're a risk worth taking. I know that might sound a bit cold, but this isn't some game where you can put the box away after you're done playing. And, before you ask, no, I'm out of that scene, and have no desire to get back involved in it.

However, I can at least start you down a trail of breadcrumbs. Look up "occult" shops or stores in the phone book. Alternately, "candle" shops might work. Write down the addresses and check them out. If you get a creepy feeling, leave. If you get a good feeling, head to the books and look up a book called "Wicca: A Guide for the Solitary Practitioner" by Scott Cunningham.

Now, I myself am not a Wiccan anymore. I don't really have a problem with them; rather my religious beliefs just kind of expanded in some areas, contracted in others, and became a different shape. However, I still recommend the book to folks like yourself who have this weird feeling of energy and don't know what to do with it. The book does a good job of explaining some things in easy to understand terms.

To be fair, the thing is the equivolent of "My First Occult Book", but also to be fair, that's about the level of comprehension you need to start at. If you're dead set on persuing this further, you'd best learn it from the ground up. There's going to be books that look cooler, or are written by people with cool sounding names like "Ravenwood Silvermoon" (who, frankly, is a complete joke), but I seriously recommend that in the beginning stages, you stick with Cunningham. He's slightly on the cheese side, and the "magical symbols" he uses look about as mystical as Nerf toys, but his instruction, philosophy, and morals in regards to magic, the respect for nature, and an alternative view of how one views divinity are, in my opinion, valuable lessons to learn.

Once you have a firm grasp on the basics that the book provides, you'll have a better idea of the route you need to go. My personal recommendation is to avoid books by people with names like "Ravenwood Silvermoon", Aleister Crowley, and Doreen Valiente. Reason being is this... people who write books under silly names are doing so for marketing purposes or they're nuts, and Crowley leans too far to the male side, and Valiente leans too far to the female side. If you want a firm foundation in magic, you need to have a balanced footing in both aspects.

Anyway... that's your breadcrumb. What you do with it is up to you.

This Wicca religion sounds like a TV show called Charmed, i dont mean to criticize ur post btw.
D3C0D3, if u want to kno how to use this ability then i wud suggest learning from urself. no one can really guide u wat to do because everyones experiences are different. just do wat u do and open ur mind to lots of different ideas choose one and put it into action

Originally posted by Bullet Proof
This Wicca religion sounds like a TV show called Charmed, i dont mean to criticize ur post btw.

No offense taken. Frankly the reason I haven't been Wiccan in over a decade has been because I couldn't take the melodrama from the costume witches, and the real drama from the people who knew what they were doing.

Nevertheless, Cunningham's book allowed someone who had been raised as a hard core fundi Christian the ability to at least consider concepts like Paganism or Magic in ways I could understand. There were some good ideas in there. There usually are at least a few, in most religions.

Ultimately, though, your next comment though is likewise, spot-on.

Originally posted by Bullet Proof
D3C0D3, if u want to kno how to use this ability then i wud suggest learning from urself. no one can really guide u wat to do because everyones experiences are different. just do wat u do and open ur mind to lots of different ideas choose one and put it into action

This is the ultimate goal, I feel, of anyone seeking some sort of spiritual enlightenment. It's that eventual self-realization that you can have a good relationship with divinity, and spiritual expression however one chooses, so long as it doesn't cause harm to someone else.

Of course what constitutes a breach of that last bit is always a tad tricky. Anyway, just thought I'd let you know, we're on the same page in our line of thought currently. All I was offering him was a stepping stone to reach that point.

thank you libra ( you sound very attuned to this sort of stuff ) , and could any one help me with the avatar question ?

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Also does any one know of any good " occult " Stores or bookstores in maryland ? Or can point me to the right direction where to find one ?

Thanks.

Any one please i would love more responses on this matter.