Homosexual agenga & Illuminati

So, it's been said that the top end of these cats are gay & they are pushing that agenda into the schools & throughout society. So if that's the case, Why?

Satanism is about doing things backwards, would that be a clue?

Originally posted by Black Sword
So, it's been said that the top end of these cats are gay & they are pushing that agenda into the schools & throughout society. So if that's the case, Why?

Satanism is about doing things backwards, would that be a clue?

Who has said this? I've never heard of it. I would highly disagree with that statement anyway. The anti-gay fundamentalists are the ones who have infiltrated the school boards, who are the ones who make curriculum decisions.

With what I've read, it would seem to me that the Elites are more into pedophilia than homosexuality. And yes there are homosexuals who are "Elite", but they're not there to push their agenda. If they were, don't you think it would have happened by now? Besides, there's a huge, huge anti-gay movement afoot in the U.S. Given these facts, it seems to be an absurd statement.

Originally posted by Black Sword
Satanism is about doing things backwards, would that be a clue?

I don't see how. Whats in it for satan to have people tolerant of man on man sex???

Rightous right does 'not' make policy for the schools. its all lefties. Anyone who dares say we should go back to the three R's like we did in the 50's is blackballed by the left who control education.

& it is already happenning. Mandatory gay historical teachings is the latest bill goin round in California & many other left supported gay ed programs are already being implemented. No opt out in the latest California bill. Shades of big brother.


mediamatters.org...

about not being able to say anything negative about someone who is gay is just -- it's completely ridiculous, and it's -- it goes against, I think, every, you know, value we have in terms of free speech.



I for one would prefer the special interest groups stay in church or have parades, leave their agenda out of my childrens life.

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"I don't see how. Whats in it for satan to have people tolerant of man on man sex???"

As a married hetrosexual i don't push my agenda into peoples faces, and deeply and strongly object that Gays / transgender peoples agendas get pushed into mine.

I don't agree with, don't accept its right or proper, but these days we have to be permissive to every thing.

Well i'm not. I'm intolerant, and will never ever change, and why should I? We are created man and women, adam and eve if you like -if gay way was right it would be adam and steve and half of all men would have a uterus in their rectums....

Do what you want, behind closed doors, thats fine...shove it in my face and your gonna get told to *snip* - and no, I won't accept this 'all permissive' attitude be taught to my children either - its not right - society cannot keep going down this tolerance path with out a total and utter colapse in all moral and spiritual direction..

so you make gays ok... whats next... if man can screw man, why is it still illegal for man to screw sheep / goats / horses ect ect ect?? 'cause if you really are a permissive and realise that these people 'love' their animals you should let it be and make it legal...

slippery slope when a society has no morals or spirtual direction.

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[edit on 27-11-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]

Gays and the illumaniti want what is white turned into black and black into white. What is perverse become normal and natural is what they are trying to achieve.

I will not judge the actions of any created being but I do know what is considered natural behavior and what is normal and the gay crowd wants those definitions changed to suit themselves.

OK, for arguments sake, let's say the illuminati exists, bottom line is, weaker-dumber humans are easier to control than strong intelligent ones. The family unit is the basis & backbone of any society, dissasemble it & you have in essence achieved to a degree the goal of control. Clinton was big into the no values new thinking. No values = no structure= chaos.

Yes indeed. They claim dogs do it, therefore it must be natural, well dogs eat each others poop too, so according to that thinking, we humans should be fece feasting as well. That may sound harsh, but well there it is. Mother nature says sodomy not natural, doesn't matter what the APA thinks, they are not more of an authority than Ma nature. They are a bunch of drug pushing loonies anyway who admit they use no science.

I can't see how teaching 3rd graders that that is perfectly natural & ok & harmless & all that when it isn't makes the human race stronger.


"During sodomy, the biology design of the rectum combined with the aggressive properties of sperm expedite their substantial entrance into the bloodstream. When this occurs repeatedly, antibodi es to sperm develop which circulate and impair the immune system." 5. "Monogamous" sodomy is not a safe alternative. In a revealing study involving monogamously paired homosexual males, three-fourths of the passive partners manifested sperm-induced immune dysregulation. Mavligit, op. cit., p. 241.



& gay suicide has actually gone up among 13-14 yr olds in SF, so the whole tolerance acceptance theory that all will gay problems will become largely solvent by implementing these programs has proven out not to be the case. If anything, the problems targeted have increased, violence, promiscuity, suicide etc. Hasn't worked.


& no I'm not a Bush loving Republican. Or a Christian.



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Heard Eustice Mullins mention it in an interview about the Fed reserve Forestlady. Have heard other mentions of it here & there. He didn't expound upon it & I always wondered about it after watching the video.

www.apfn.org...

The original book, published under the title Mullins On The Federal Reserve, was commissioned by the poet Ezra Pound in 1948.


This is the only book which has been burned in Germany since World War II.





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Isn't this thread about whether the "homosexual agenda" (if it exists) is in line with that of the "illuminati" (if they exist).

For the record, I'm straight, and happily so. I'm also not intolerant, although there are aspects of what might be termed "gay culture" that I don't much care for.

Anyway, on to the topic.

I have heard and read many tales of how homosexual behaviour is prevalent among the governing elites. Public schools in the UK (which, for US readers, translates as "private" schools, believe it or not) have long been known for being at the least tolerant of gay behaviour among boys and young men, and it is from these insitutions that the UK's governing elites are drawn, even today. There are also many stories about homosexual rites within the US elites - Skull and Bones purportedly involves rituals of masturbation, and there are rumours of gay orgies at Bohemian Grove. Further, I've seen video testimony from the ex-wife of a senior US general who states that homosexuality is rife within the upper ranks of the US military, and indeed is part of the ladder of preferment. If I come across the link I'll post it to this thread as it makes fascinating viewing.

Whether all this is true or not, I don't know. But the allegations are there.

The consistent pattern that emerges is not that a homosexual agenda is being forced, but that control is exerted over people who want to enter the elites by coercing them into homosexual behaviour.

There is also a school of thought that suggests that transgression is liberating. Now, it is far more transgressive for a straight man to be involved in homosexual behaviour than for a gay man, who, after all, is just acting according to his nature.

I have no idea to what extent these elements, of coercion and transgression, are institutionalised within elite groups, but it would not surprise me if it were the case. I particularly lean towards the notion of it being used as a method of control.

Edit - it is perhaps noteworthy that rumours of homosexuality swirl persistently around both Bush and Blair. Blair's nickname at university was, allegedly, "Bambi", and there is a lot of talk about Bush: for example, his persistent over-use of the word "fabulous". See the link below for many examples, of which the most egregious is probably

"It's been a fabulous year for Laura and me."

-- George W. Bush., three months after the World Trade Center towers went down.

Betty Bowers

Then of course there's the whole Jeff Gannon/James Guckert thing. A guy who runs a gay porn website who has free and unfettered access to the White House, often staying overnight? Who has no visible job other than lobbing softball questions to Dubya during a press conference (and being caught doing so)? According to one artcle I've read (which, of course, I cannot find right now, dammit) Gannon/Guckert entertained Blair for an hour alone on TB's White House visit.

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Read somewhere Bush appointed more homosexuals in positions of power than any other pres.

& yes I've heard about the coffin Skull & bones sex ceremonies.

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Just for the record, I am one hundred percent supportive of homosexual's rights.

On to the subject at hand:

I suppose the elite may support homosexuality because the more homosexuals there are, the less people have kids. The smaller the population, the easier they are to control. That's a long shot, though. From what I can tell, the majority of higher up politicians are openly against homosexuality, but perhaps that's just a front.

I knew from the title this topic was going to be a kneeslapper and it did not dissapoint! A few questions:

1) Where in the heck did you find that insane article about "sperm impairing the immune system through the rectum", that is ludicrous, links please

2) Satanist like to do things backwards? Since when? What Satanists are you speaking of? Levay Church of Satan Satanists? Goth teenagers? Luciferians? Gnostics? Anyone not Christian?

3) You seem to be presupposing that the questionable Illuminati are Satanists, why? I believe, with probably just as much or more evidence that they are vile hedonist who masquerade as christians* Would it surprise you to hear that a true Luciferian would be a man of honor?

4) Gay agenda? I thought the gays were incredibly discriminated against! Maybe you are just a little bit homophobic?

I think the only agenda the "Conquering Wind" would have is Weishaupts famed supposed words that "power is an end to itself"

This is an interesting topic. I knew a closet homosexual once who didn't let people in general know that he is gay, he just sort of lives a secret life that people can only guess about. He thought that people could at least watch saying things like' " More than anything I hate a queer, as far as I'm concerned they ought to all be taken and hung high on a rope until they die". Aparrently his brother said those very words while waiting in an adjacent room for initiation into some kind of group I can't remember now.

Yes there is an agenda to promote homosexuality from the Black Lodge of the "Illuminati".


See the definition of Black Lodge here and you'll see why:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


It is well known that homo-sex-rituals exist as a great source of power for the Black Magician.






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If you are straight, no ammount of coaxing, persuasion, or coercison is going to make you embrace a gay lifestyle. True, someone can force you to perform a sex act, but they cannot make you gay.

I am straight. In a way, I am envious of gays because even though they have to put up with some bigotry, they seem to have a fun life. I can see the benefits of the gay lifestyle, the opportunity to have lots of sex and not having to deal with women, I do not choose it and am not tempted by it in any way. If you somehow feel tempted into becoming gay, you are not a perfectly straight heterosexual, but gay or bisexual yourself.

Not that this is a bad thing. You and those around you will be happier if you are true to yourself.

Originally posted by Black Sword
Rightous right does 'not' make policy for the schools. its all lefties. Anyone who dares say we should go back to the three R's like we did in the 50's is blackballed by the left who control education.

& it is already happenning. Mandatory gay historical teachings is the latest bill goin round in California & many other left supported gay ed programs are already being implemented. No opt out in the latest California bill. Shades of big brother.
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The Christians have had a concerted plan to infiltrate the school boards since the '70s and they have been pretty successful. No one questioned evolution before that time, it was the fundies who got alot of areas and states to reject the teaching of evolution. They have/had highly organized groups who teach others how to get onto the school boards. This has been a stated policy for many fundamentalist groups for the last 30 years.

Here is only one example:

"An anti-abortion activist, Golba has spent the past decade running political action seminars across the state for Kansans for Life, teaching fellow Christian conservatives in the state how to gain political power. This past November, Golba's work paid off, as Christian conservatives took control of the Kansas Board of Education, paving the way for the Aug. 11 school board decision, which in effect gives Kansas' 308 local school boards the choice of whether to include the teaching of evolution in their science curricula."


www.salon.com...

As for mandatory teaching of gay history, that was in California and was, I believe, not voted in. No where else has that kind of legislation been introduced. That's hardly having the "lefties" in charge of all the school boards.

Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
I can see the benefits of the gay lifestyle, the opportunity to have lots of sex and not having to deal with women

Being sexually promiscuous isn't a trait solely of gay men, it's a lifestyle choice yes, but not a gay one, plenty of straight people lead this kind of lifestyle too, and plenty of gay men and women lead very conventionally monogamous lifestyles.... Don't let stereotypes and the most visible sectors of the gay community shape your view of gay people in general.

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This thread is ridiculous, I really really feel sorry for some of the people in this thread, so concerned about what other people are doing that has absolutely no impact on them whatsoever.

The person who was troubled by gay people 'pushing their lifestyle' in their face...... You've GOT to be kidding me. A couple of sitcoms with gay characters or a big budget Hollywood movie about gay cowboys hardly equates pushing an agenda.

The heterosexual agenda is pushed CONSTANTLY, EVERYWHERE, and ALL THE TIME..... Only it's not called an agenda, it's not even noticed because it's the norm.

Get over it.

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Originally posted by Tamahu
Yes there is an agenda to promote homosexuality from the Black Lodge of the "Illuminati".....It is well known that homo-sex-rituals exist as a great source of power for the Black Magician.

Have you not also claimed in the following thread that homosexuality causes vampirism?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by VelvetSplash
Being sexually promiscuous isn't a trait solely of gay men, it's a lifestyle choice yes, but not a gay one, plenty of straight people lead this kind of lifestyle too, and plenty of gay men and women lead very conventionally monogamous lifestyles.... Don't let stereotypes and the most visible sectors of the gay community shape your view of gay people in general.

I couldn't agree with you more. Another thing I'd like to point out is that one of the reasons so-called "homophobes" call homosexuals promiscuous is because they have pre-marital sex, yet those who use this argument are usually the same ones who are fighting to keep gay marriage banned. What the...?! It would seem that critics of homosexual lifestyles are swift to stigmatize homosexuals as promiscuous, and even swifter to attempt to take away as many opportunities for homosexuals to be monogamous as possible.

The person who was troubled by gay people 'pushing their lifestyle' in their face...... You've GOT to be kidding me. A couple of sitcoms with gay characters or a big budget Hollywood movie about gay cowboys hardly equates pushing an agenda.

The heterosexual agenda is pushed CONSTANTLY, EVERYWHERE, and ALL THE TIME..... Only it's not called an agenda, it's not even noticed because it's the norm.

Get over it.

Well, I'm so in agreeance with this and the rest of your post that I have nothing left to add except this:

You have voted VelvetSplash for the Way Above Top Secret award.

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Clearly Satan would like this because homosexuality is immoral, and it is the pleasure of Satan to advance immorality.

This is interesting to contemplate, however I feel that the Illuminati has a much more power-seeking agenda, as opposed to the corruption of society.