Civilization Confusion

The seems to be a lot of confusion about civilizations. I see lots of talk about a global flood in different cultures. That because there was a global flood.

Let's clarify something.

Nimrod is Osiris

Nimrod is Gilgamesh

Nimrod is Zoroaster

Nimrod is Zeus

Nimrod is Odin

Nimrod is Dagon

Nimrod is Jupiter

Nimrod is Poseidon

Nimrod is Neptune

Nimrod is Vishnu

AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.

Was the tower of Babel before or after the flood?

Originally posted by AMANNAMEDQUEST
Was the tower of Babel before or after the flood?

After the flood.

Interesting...found this in wikepedia

In Genesis 10, Babel is said to have formed part of Nimrod's kingdom. Although not specifically mentioned in the Bible that he ordered the tower to be built, Nimrod is often associated with its construction in other sources

The Tower of Babel was an act of rebellion to build a tower so tall that it could not be flooded.

Nimrod is a fictional character Sun Matrix who appears in one book written by hebrews quite some time after all eleven of your so called examples are attested. It even states in that book that he didn't exist much before the events told in it
and you quite clearly are Nimrod bonkers
don't waste your time here
away ye back to the nearest christian fundementalist website from whence ye came

Nimrod is a rather sad peace of music written by Elgar (part of the Enigma Variations) - often played, for example, on Rembrance Day.

Jupiter and Neptune, on the other hand, were written by Holst as part of his Planets Suite (Holtz btw played organ in the village church where my parensts now live )





But aside from that, can you eleborate - a lot - on what you're trying to say Sun Matrix? Your initial post makes no sense whatsoever. Are you saying that all mythical gods - even those supposed to be brothers - were based on one minor Biblical figure? How does this in any way equate to evidence for a global flood (for which, as I'm sure you're intelligent enough to know, there is as much physical evidence as there is for the idea that the Moon is made of green cheese)

Originally posted by Marduk
Nimrod is a fictional character Sun Matrix who appears in one book written by hebrews quite some time after all eleven of your so called examples are attested. It even states in that book that he didn't exist much before the events told in it
and you quite clearly are Nimrod bonkers
don't waste your time here
away ye back to the nearest christian fundementalist website from whence ye came

NIMROD IS MARDUK

I smell that fear..............when the facts are brought out. Nice having a name like Marduk and not even realizing it is Nimrod.

You need an education in the facts.

there are lots of stories about global floods so there must have been a global flood?

could it just be that people saw the devastation caused by minor and major floods and then made myths about global floods?

and wouldn't there be evidence of a global flood?

and WHERE did the extra water required to flood the entire earth come from?

Originally posted by Sun Matrix
The seems to be a lot of confusion about civilizations. I see lots of talk about a global flood in different cultures. That because there was a global flood.

Let's clarify something.

Nimrod is Osiris

Nimrod is Gilgamesh

Nimrod is Zoroaster

Nimrod is Zeus

Nimrod is Odin

Nimrod is Dagon

Nimrod is Jupiter

Nimrod is Poseidon

Nimrod is Neptune

Nimrod is Vishnu

AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.

how can nimrod be different beings in the same mythology?
how can nimrod be such drastically different beings?

and where is the evidence to support these claims?

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul


and wouldn't there be evidence of a global flood?

There is. Go to the top of any mountain and you will find shells.

Go to the Grand Canyon and look at layers, and the fossils of the Grand Canyon.

and WHERE did the extra water required to flood the entire earth come from?

Melt all the polar ice caps and see what happens. Then take a few mountain ranges and stuff them in the deepest parts of the ocean. No problem finding the water.

Shells are at the top of mountains because mountains were once at the bottom of the ocean. Plate tectonics. Millions of years.

Originally posted by Sun Matrix

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul


and wouldn't there be evidence of a global flood?

There is. Go to the top of any mountain and you will find shells.

Go to the Grand Canyon and look at layers, and the fossils of the Grand Canyon.

and WHERE did the extra water required to flood the entire earth come from?

Melt all the polar ice caps and see what happens. Then take a few mountain ranges and stuff them in the deepest parts of the ocean. No problem finding the water.

um....
fossils have nothing to do with flooding
the grand canyon was formed by gradual erosions
melting all the icecaps wouldn't flood the whole world

and that point about the seashells, never heard that one
but arius answered it properly

but you haven't cited EVIDENCE

also, you have yet to adress my questions on the mythological figures

[edit on 11/25/06 by madnessinmysoul]

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul


how can nimrod be different beings in the same mythology?
how can nimrod be such drastically different beings?

and where is the evidence to support these claims?

Take any of these myths and look how they have evolved and changed over time. But if you research any of these myths you can track back to Nimrod.

Take Osiris for example. He was cut to pieces after his death. So was Nimrod. The Egyptian Obelisk represents a ray of the sun or the Penis of the sun god. When Nimrod was killed and cut up, all pieces of him were found except his penis.

Real person and Babylonian King Nimrod is mythical Osiris.

Understand this...........................all these myths and false gods are in place to keep you from seeing the Messiah. That is why there are so many false gods and evolving myths. There has been an attempt to intentionally confuse the timeline.

Look into any culture and you see the SUN GOD.....From Babylon .....to Japan....... to India.......to Egypt......to China.......to Greece......... to Rome..... To Mexico etc. etc. etc. and you will find this sun god is the deceiver.

But if you research any of these myths you can track back to Nimrod.

maybe if you researched them and you either had a time machine or you were not aware of what a timeline is or whats more likely in your case that you are just a religious nutter who doesn't know what hes talking about
maybe you can show us all how you track back Osiris who is attested from at least 2500bce to Nimrod who isn't mentioned in any Bablonian record at all and who makes a very brief appearance in the bible written about 650bce in Hebrew a language that didn't exist until around 1200bce
or you could show us all how you could "track back" Bel Marduk who is attested from 1800bce to Nimrods mention in 650 bce

Nice having a name like Marduk and not even realizing it is Nimrod.

well you're making a mistake like the poor scholar you are for not realising that the name Marduk is juts a Babylonian version of "John" (i.e. very common) whereas the name Bel Marduk is in fact the name of the god
fancy that you not knowing the difference between a god and a man
why am I not surprised
I expect you think that evry kid in Mexico named Jesus is the messiah

theres only one deceiver around here and its you
and you're not a particularly good deceiver either because you're not fooling anyone.

note to mods
as this thread is about one mans erroneous personal fundementalist religious beliefs don't you think its in the wrong forum

Originally posted by Marduk

maybe if you researched them and you either had a time machine or you were not aware of what a timeline is or whats more likely in your case that you are just a religious nutter who doesn't know what hes talking about
maybe you can show us all how you track back Osiris who is attested from at least 2500bce to Nimrod who isn't mentioned in any Bablonian record at all and who makes a very brief appearance in the bible written about 650bce in Hebrew a language that didn't exist until around 1200bce
or you could show us all how you could "track back" Bel Marduk who is attested from 1800bce to Nimrods mention in 650 bce

I suggest you face your fears and check the timeline for Nimrod.........as best you can.

well you're making a mistake like the poor scholar you are for not realising that the name Marduk is juts a Babylonian version of "John" (i.e. very common) whereas the name Bel Marduk is in fact the name of the god
fancy that you not knowing the difference between a god and a man
why am I not surprised

Nimrod is Marduk.......deal with it.
Bel Marduk is merely Baal the sun god.

theres only one deceiver around here and its you
and you're not a particularly good deceiver either because you're not fooling anyone.

Fear of the facts. Do a search on Nimrod, Marduk and you will find they are the same...........unless you are afraid of truth.

note to mods
as this thread is about one mans erroneous personal fundementalist religious beliefs don't you think its in the wrong forum

This is about ancient civilations..........After the flood, the tower of Babel was being built and God caused a communication problem. People grouped together that could speak the same language and moved to different areas of the world. But they took the story of Nimrod and the flood with them. They took the worship of Satan as the sun god with them.

This is history........the history of the world.........which you could prove....if you weren't afraid of truth.

After the flood, the tower of Babel was being built and God caused a communication problem. People grouped together that could speak the same language and moved to different areas of the world. But they took the story of Nimrod and the flood with them. They took the worship of Satan as the sun god with them.

see this is where you're confused
this has nothing to do with ancient civilisations at all
its theology
i.e. religion
so its in the wrong forum
there is never any proof for the validity of religion
which is quite clear as you haven't presented a single correct piece of evidence so far nor backed any of it up with any links
clearly you're just a fundementalist Idiot and your constant claim that everyone fears the truth is just transference on your part
Satan doesn't exist either in any other ancient text but the bible
along with YHWH who must be the fictional deity who you worship
I take it then that you must be a fundementalist Hassidic hebrew
if you're not then according to the Bible you're going to hell
or did you think that the KJV rewritten by man in the 1300s has any validity whatsoever
it doesn't
and neither do you

Let's see..........this thread was moved over here because I had it posted in

Ancient civilations, myths and Legends.

Hum, smell that fear.

Sun Matrix to resemble an intelligent poster one must obey one of the main laws of logic.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof
* Not claiming 'fear' when other posters debunk, or attempt to debunk your ideas.
* Not making extraordinary claims about gods/heroes from different cultures.
* Not criticising other posters for not posting evidence, when you clearly haven't.
* Not using your vague interpretation of the Bible to deny everyone else's claims.

Originally posted by Sun Matrix
Understand this...........................all these myths and false gods are in place to keep you from seeing the Messiah. That is why there are so many false gods and evolving myths. There has been an attempt to intentionally confuse the timeline.

Ah yes. Every other religion MUST have descended from Babel! Despite the fact that there are very rare and vague concurrences in the various religions around the world they MUST be Satanic spawn!
Also how do different religions confuse 'the timeline'?

Originally posted by Sun Matrix
Look into any culture and you see the SUN GOD.....From Babylon .....to Japan....... to India.......to Egypt......to China.......to Greece......... to Rome..... To Mexico etc. etc. etc. and you will find this sun god is the deceiver.

Well I'm going to have to go with the Sun providing nourishment for crops, warmth and other processes.
It certainly couldn't be that the ancients didn't know that the Sun was just a gigantic ball of near-eternally-burning gas, could it and, unable to comprehend it's power, used superstition to explain what their facts could not?
What about Lunar deities? Are they decievers as well?

Originally posted by Sun Matrix
Nimrod is Zeus

Compare with:

Originally posted by Sun Matrix
Nimrod is Poseidon

WTF!?! How does that work, as neither of the two were 'Sun Gods' (the actual Greek Sun God was Apollo)?

Originally posted by Sun Matrix
Let's see..........this thread was moved over here because I had it posted in
Ancient civilations, myths and Legends.
Hum, smell that fear.

No, it's less fear than the application of logic to reality by an ATS Moderator.