Homo Luminous - New Evolutionary Humans

OK I'll make this short but I have been listening to this guy Jay Weidner talk about the year 2012 and everything relating to the end times. Now from what he is saying the end of the world isn't the end of life just that a new species of Humans take root and leave behind the Homosapien species which goes extinct.

Anyone out there listened to him or read any of his books ? I would like to know what people think about this guy and his theories.

How is it possible than in less than 6 years, a whole new species of humans wiill walk the earth? It's impossible to evolve into a new species in only 6 years...

Originally posted by k4rupt
It's impossible to evolve into a new species in only 6 years...

Taht depends on how you define evolution, birds have been seen
to evolve in a period of 16 months before.


If anything though it would be that the babies born from that point
on would be this new evolutionary step.

Or, perhaps more and more have been being born and they will
be 'revealed'.


Honestly I don't believe that some brand new species is jusy
going to show up and than us just go extinct.

That would be weird. But I dont think its possible. But then again you never know.

how much does nuclear material effect mutation? does it accelorate or decellorate (mind my spelling) ...

How quickly do you change direction when you think of going left instead of right?

how quickly do you mutate into a warm being from a cold being turning out of the cold wind?

what is mutation? physical change? structural change?

why do we *think* that we are homosapiens?

what makes structure? physical things? .. or are physical things created by structure? ..
what creates structure? the structure of your tv, or shoes.. ? .. well a human created the structure from thought....
so .. so far thought is the ROOT of causes... or structures...

[edit on 11/20/2006 by PuRe EnErGy]

Perhaps this new human he speaks about is already walking amongst us now in the form of star children ? or that perhaps the evolution to Homo Luminous is actually mental more so than physical.

It wouldn't be a stretch to say possibly Eugenics or DNA manipulation may have a part to play in this theory of humans evolving into something new but I tend to think that if we were to lose this materialistic mentality our world would be less like turmoil and war and move to an "Ant Colony" like metality were we could be hive.

This could also be achieved by having a Police State aka George Orwells 1984.

I THINK EVOLUTION CAN BE CAUSED NOT ONLY WITH TIME BUT ALSO FROM EXTERNAL FACTORS SUCH AS THE WILL OF A SUPER-BEING OR GREAT AMOUNTS OF ENERGY.

The Indigo Children are this 'new species'..............thats what I think. They have been being born since the 60's as far as I know.....that makes for plenty of the 'new people' who may just transend into a 4th dimension in the blink of an eye....therefore seeming to dissappear to those left behind.

What if a world leader or someone became a world leader by use of super human powers. Like say some guy is a miracle worker like Jesus or something and everyone calls him the antichrist, but in reality he is just an evolved human. I think if that happened or if superhuman powers became public and a reality then I would consider that the next stage of human.

Originally posted by mazzroth
OK I'll make this short but I have been listening to this guy Jay Weidner talk about the year 2012 and everything relating to the end times. Now from what he is saying the end of the world isn't the end of life just that a new species of Humans take root and leave behind the Homosapien species which goes extinct.

Anyone out there listened to him or read any of his books ? I would like to know what people think about this guy and his theories.

Jay Weidner has made a profound and insightful point. I agree that we are on the verge of having a new species of humans emerge. However, judging from his article, I don't think he completely understands how it is to come about.

A significantly better body than that of Homo sapien, what he terms Homo Luminous, will not emerge through genetic manipulation or through the course of gradual evolution - as 2012 is simply too close for either to happen effectively.

IMHO, it must be done by those in the flesh who have evolved (or will have evolved) to a high level and who will transition into Spirit. Once they cross over, they will have direct access to The Light, the most powerful energy source in ALL THAT IS and the one used billions of years ago to manifest The Big Bang.

Manifesting Homo Luminous with The Light is the ONLY WAY that an upscale humanoid race, significantly better than Homo sapien, can be manifested by or in 2012

In Solist Mysticism, the term for Homo Luminous is Avataric Form.

They are one and the same thing.

Preparation for advanced applications of The Light - like creating upscale bodies - must be done from one's daily utilization of the innovative approach of Heart Chakra Radiance.

This takes years to develop, not weeks or months.

Without adequate training, one will not have the telekinetic skill, spiritual stability, or level of energy when in The Light, in order to pull it off.



[edit on 27-11-2006 by Paul_Richard]

Paul

Very profound words mate, but I dont understand how you got all this information in the first place. Was it taught to you ? did you read it in a book ? or did you make this up all on your own ?.

No disrespect but some people make claims infering they have superior knowledge to anyone else but fail to highlight how they came onto this information.

Originally posted by mazzroth
Paul

Very profound words mate, but I dont understand how you got all this information in the first place. Was it taught to you ? did you read it in a book ? or did you make this up all on your own ?.

No disrespect but some people make claims infering they have superior knowledge to anyone else but fail to highlight how they came onto this information.

thru accepting what is.. (everything is composed of thoughts of those things) even a thing is a thought.. therefore loving that ..loving thought... and understanding why you love thought... (because you are thought)...

and
I have said the following my self .. just in different words..

Without adequate training, one will not have the telekinetic skill, spiritual stability, or level of energy when in The Light, in order to pull it off.

I said.. those whose flames have not been brightened will be blown out by the Holy Spirit (the Holy Thought) knowing you are thought will either make or break someone.. knowing they are thought can have two effects.. (being a total dick for your own 'thoughts') or (being a total saint because you see people who know not what they do) .. or as the bible said.. neither hot nor cold.. and if u are neither hot nor cold you shall be SPIT out..

Acceptance+Love=Understanding.



[edit on 11/27/2006 by PuRe EnErGy]

Personally I don't think technology and humanity match very well. It seems that the technology gets greater and the human becomes lesser. Less needed in many ways. They are two opposites attempting co-existance. The technology will eventually eat the human or make it subservient to its self.

The Pineal Gland may be a way out of this body and into a higher vibratory form when the body no longer serves a purpose.

I think the legends of Atlantis elude to this.

Is it either or, or is it evolution..................

From what i understand - as PuRe said, thoughts are things and we are thought and so the thing we are is subject to our thoughts...

It takes 7.2 years for the human brain to 'turn over' or 'turn around' which means a polar shift in the mind which is the 'brain-child' of thought.

I personally can attest to this being reliable and proven in practice - I am not the same 'person' i was in 1998. I realized this around 7.5 years later....

This is the idea of 'tribulation' - for it is indeed troubling in many ways, as PuRe also said....but what doesn't kill ya makes ya stronger and if your thoughts don't kill ya then nothing will....

And he said, ‘Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death.’
Jesus said, ‘Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All.’
-Gospel of Thomas #1 & 2

This is about the most reliable gospel in a practical sense that I know of, so far...at least it worked for me....the first saying, above, is the 'alpha' and here is the 'omega':

Simon Peter said to him, ‘Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life.’ Jesus said, ‘I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven.’ - #114

Think of the soul = female
and the flesh as well as the spirit = male

Just like in the Garden of Eden...2 males (ADAM and the snake (atom)) and 1 female (eve who was a 'side' of Adam)...

That is why, in #114 above, that Jesus says 'resembling you males.'
Those males he is speaking to are the fleshly males, and Jesus is the spirit.

Jesus is saying he will marry Mary and since that means she will become 'flesh of his flesh and bone of his bone,' yet spirit does not have flesh and bones....she will become a living soul....

As Adam was, at the start.

The first ADAM made of blood, a mortal...the second atom made of light, an immortal...and the soul is the human element in between the two....

The sin of Eve in the Garden of Eden is actually not the problem at all! The problem is fear! And Adam feared but Eve ate, then Adam ate, too...

And so the sin of Eve is the salvation of Adam - because she died and was re-born and married the atom....the light.

Light is knowledge/intelligence.

All things are light - there really isn't anything else, only varied frequencies governing that light....

thoughts are things
make your thoughts COUNT

see?

I wished upon a star I'd never seen, before, 2 summers ago in 2004....it rose each day before dawn and when I saw that star, I knew home was near (whatever that means - all I know is I never felt homesick again after feeling alone for 36 years).

So..the 7.2 years until 2012 is covered with a few weeks to spare!
....it started June 8, 2004 with the Venus Transit...
I know because I was standing on the watchtower that night for all 3 watches!

It's taken care of but yet remember what I said - it is for all of us not just a few or one or two...

FOR THE ALL!

Originally posted by queenannie38

And he said, ‘Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings will not experience death.’
Jesus said, ‘Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All.’
-Gospel of Thomas #1 & 2

Queenannie, thanks for posting that scripture. It fits so well with what I have been feeling lately.

When I seek long and hard, sometimes I am very troubled by what I find. It even backs me off for a minute at times. But then I get back on the horse and ride some more.

The astonished part takes time

Iam now starting to suspect this new Human is actually one that has broken the shackles of the Serpent ( Garden of Eden ) and has the veil lifted to see things less materialistically and more spiritually.

This "seeking the truth and you will be troubled with what you find" concept put into The Gospel of Thomas can stand for many things but I think ultimately it is meant to mean - The deeper you look into the truth the more you see how you have had your path controlled and how you have been manipulated.

Break the shackles that control you like money, wealth and material objects and then you can surpass the previous 10 000 years of human-sapien misery.

Originally posted by mazzroth
Paul

Very profound words mate, but I dont understand how you got all this information in the first place. Was it taught to you ? did you read it in a book ? or did you make this up all on your own ?.

It was researched and taught to me over a period of many years through Spiritual Correspondence.

[edit on 13-12-2006 by Paul_Richard]

I also believe that there is a good chance that we may evolve into higher beings come that time. It could happen, or it could be the same old, same old. Don't know for sure.

Spiritual and biological evolution is not a given. Like everything else that is important, it must be earned

According to Bob Lazar, the Zetan-aliens have tampered with human DNA at least 65 times over a period of many thousands of years. Despite all that effort to improve the human body with advanced genetic engineering, we as Homo sapiens still embrace an abundance of biological problems.

A logical conclusion from the above is that science and technology alone, which has severe limitations, will never bring about anything close to a Homo Luninous or Avataric Form.

IMHO, it must be done through spiritual means, which entails advanced spiritual development and utilization of The Light on the Other Side, not from technology or anything that can be produced in a laboratory.

[edit on 13-12-2006 by Paul_Richard]

I have been listening and reading alot of these "New Age" concepts on vibrating your higher self towards light through various things like meditation and prayer but not to dismiss the "good deeds" aspect.

If its possible to do this ( no evidence ) then perhaps Brooks Agnew is on the money with the Twin Earth theory that a spiritual earth is overlayed, out of phase with the physical earth on a different frequency. He also claims the beloved Mayan Calender Ending of 2012 is the landmark event were the Spiritual Earth splinters off from its Physical Twin taking with it the enlightend beings.

This theory sounds alot like Rapture but for the technical jargon he throws in ( he is a Physicist and PHD ) but it makes for an interesting thought.

Can we vibrate our souls to a level nearing light ? has anyone previously done it ? ( Jesus maybe ) and if so what are the best ways of achieving this ?. I dont know maybe some of the "In the know" people can tell us ?

[edit on 13-12-2006 by mazzroth]