Da Vinci Code 2007

yes we have all read the book.

millions of people have seen the movie.

ok. now,

believe it or not, its your choice, but that woman has been located now

the search seems to be over for some people.

its still unproven, but some people claim Segolene is her

she is the woman in the direct line.

she is the royal blood.

her true name was orginally said to be Sacolane, which means,
female with a force, or lady of might

and guess what, it is said that some mysterious force is taking
her up towards the Throne of France.

thats the region where it is said that in the south a boat carrying
the holy grail landed in about 36 AD.


pics:

www.up.univ-mrs.fr...

www.strasbourgavecsegolene.fr...




[edit on 17-11-2006 by mr conspiracy]

France doesn't have a royal family anymore. They were all guillotined in the 1700s, so this woman couldn't be being propelled towards the throne of France.

Anyway the Da Vinci code is just a work of fiction.

A while ago there was a Channel 4 documentry about it narrated by Tony Robinson, who is a socialist and certainly no christian, which proved that it was all made-up.

Here's a link where you can get the DVD:

www.amazon.com/Real-Da-Vinci-Code/dp/B000EDWLUA

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Her nickname is 'Princess, but I'm having trouble finding 'blue blood' in her past. A quick glance through some sites sure did bring up interesting tidbits, though.

Do you have a link supporting a royal lineage?

www.spiegel.de...
She has won 10 out of 11 elections in 17 years. Thanks to her good relations with the Elysée Palace, the "Valkyrie of Deux-Sèvres" manages to pump subsidies from Paris and the EU into her region, leaving her political opponents' constituencies high and dry.

She now has the full support of her party. For the first time since the Socialists' traumatic defeat in 2002, when Socialist Prime Minister Jospin was defeated in the primary by right-wing extremist Jean-Marie Le Pen, the Socialists have shed their heavy pessimism. Now, the left finally stands a chance at victory once again.

Royal's pragmatism -- her "we have to see what works and what doesn't" approach -- is effective, if only as a provocation, with those comrades who still have trouble burying their utopias.

related;

news.bbc.co.uk...

timescorrespondents.typepad.com...

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by masqua
Her nickname is 'Princess, but I'm having trouble finding 'blue blood' in her past.

that was interesting.

as you know, these things are often hidden from public and tourists

these things are meant to be reserved for so called "seekers" or "believers"

but if it turns out to be true that her decent goes back to
the boat carrying the holy child, then we can be sure she is the true Princess.

either she knows it herself, or she is not yet told of her past.

Da Vinci Code movie was on to something very deep secret in France

so it could be true that she is the holy blood






[edit on 17-11-2006 by mr conspiracy]

Originally posted by mr conspiracy

thats the region where it is said that in the south a boat carrying
the holy grail landed in about 636 AD.

[edit on 17-11-2006 by mr conspiracy]

Right.

Wasn't it supposed to be Mary Magdalene that went to France with the kid? So the fictional child of Christ and Mary Magdalene was over 600 years old then?

Originally posted by jimboman

thats the region where it is said that in the south a boat carrying
the holy grail landed in about 636 AD.

sorry. it was a typing mistake.

i have corrected the above error: it should be 36 AD.


thats mean it would have been about three years after the crucifixion of Jesus.



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She'd have to have the bloodline of King David. That is the royal bloodline - not of Jeconiah but of Josiah. And her name would be encoded in every page of the bible. Her name isn't in there. She's not the one.

She'd have to have the bloodline of King David. That is the royal bloodline - not of Jeconiah but of Josiah. And her name would be encoded in every page of the bible. Her name isn't in there.

That would of course depend on several factors. Just one of which is the number of children Jeshua and the Magdalene had.

I'm not sure what you mean, exactly?

Segolene is trying to protect a secret European tradition which
she fears maybe under attack from America.

since Segolene is the daughter of Christ, it is her duty to make sure
that blood line is protected against any harm.

some top men are behind her. they are guarding her like a treasure.

indeed some some people believe that she is a treasure like no other.

Segolene sees United States as some kind of threat.

there must be something big that is going to happen in Europe.

and she wants to protect that.

that is why she is trying to push Britian to abandon its friendship with America.

planets are entering a new age.

something major is about to happen soon.

She is the One.

Future of the world is going to be decided on April 22, 2007.

which dark forces are going to stop her?

Segolene urges Britain to choose between Europe and America

By David Rennie

Europe Correspondent

November 20, 2006

www.telegraph.co.uk.../news/2006/11/20/wsego20.xml

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Originally posted by mr conspiracy
since Segolene is the daughter of Christ, it is her duty to make sure
that blood line is protected against any harm.

IF that were true - then God would be her protection! Her hedge....

some top men are behind her. they are guarding her like a treasure.

Why would she need 'top men' if her Father was 'top dog?' Angels would be attending her, not 'top men.' Angels do seem as men, but they do not make themselves conspicious in the public eye.

indeed some some people believe that she is a treasure like no other.

Hopefully we all have at least one person that feels that way about us, too!

that is why she is trying to push Britian to abandon its friendship with America.

There is another contradiction....'Is Christ divided?'
NO.

planets are entering a new age.

They already did. September 23, 2006.

something major is about to happen soon.

It already IS. All around you - but it unseen to most - it is of Spirit, not flesh.

She is the One.

No, she is not.

Future of the world is going to be decided on April 22, 2007.

The future of the world was decided in the past before there WAS a future.

which dark forces are going to stop her?

Her own ego and the power-lust of those 'top men' who are backing her up, I would suppose. Or maybe God will send one last HaSatan to accuse and judge their little confab just to show the rest of the world. Because if there are any dark forces, be assured they are from God just as all other things.

Originally posted by mr conspiracy
its still unproven, but some people claim Segolene is her

she is the woman in the direct line.

she is the royal blood.

Okay - I have read through every link provided in this thread (except the caption of the one picture which was in French, which I cannot read) and I have seen nothing about what 'some people claim.' Perhaps you could provide some information relevant to your point in this thread?

her true name was orginally said to be Sacolane, which means,
female with a force, or lady of might

'Said' to be, or WAS?

My full name means 'light bringer' 'favored by God' 'many camps' Lilly (no etymology on that one - it just means 'lily')

So what?

and guess what, it is said that some mysterious force is taking
her up towards the Throne of France.

Good stories, I guess. What I think, from reading the links provided, is that 'mysterious force' is her personal integrity, wisdom in her political concerns and how she pursues them, and her courage in speaking up for her position. As well, she is quite lovely and it is obvious she has charisma just from the photos. She also has endured much hardship - something that builds up an already good-hearted person's character immensely!

You make it sound as if she is making these claims! Do you have any citations to support that?

If not, that's really not fair to her - not that she isn't deserving of praise - but why can she not just be a wonderful example of leadership for the world as well as an advocate for women's intelligence (not liberation in the American sense, but in the global sense?)

So I retract my comment about her ego - it doesn't appear she has one. But she has enough 'dark forces' working against her, it seems - from the origin of those making claims about her which could truly be damaging to what her actual (personal) agenda might really be!

Behind the Name

Sacolane nor Segolene not listed; for both this name was given as the most similar:

SIEGLINDE

Gender: Feminine

Usage: German, Germanic Mythology
Derived from the Germanic elements sige "victory" and linde "gentle, soft". Sieglinde was the mother of Siegfried in the the Germanic saga the 'Nibelungenlied'.

I'm not sure what you mean, exactly?

here are a few of the factors involved.
First if we accept that Jeshua was of the Davidic line then we must also accept that
his siblings were also of the Davidic line. That expand the pool considerably. He had
3-4 brothers that were named as such, James ,Jude ,Joses, and one other I think. In
addition to these there has been a case made for Thomas Didymus being the twin brother of Jeshua. There were also several sisters mentioned but not named (remember inthat day and time women we not considered important. although even
today being a Jew is predicated on if your Mother is a Jew).

Now we get into the theory of the bloodline and there are several. I will try to seperate
the theories first then use the seperate threads to weave a possible tapestry.

1. Thomas and Jeshua were twins, Jeshua being the eldest was the "King Messiah"
Thomas the "Priest Messiah" eventually taking Johns place. There is one theory that
says that it was Thomas that was crucified and that Jeshua was taken up to complete
priest training probably at Qumran, and that James then became the Priest Messiah.

2. another is that Jeshua was illegitamate according to "Royal Marraige Laws". Then
legatimized by the priests. James was born according to the Laws. so the eternal
battle raged as to who the "rightful" King was. There is no question that James led the Church @ Jerusalem probably with the Magdalene for a time.

3 The Marraige. When It comes to the marriage and Children of Jeshua there are at least 2
different theories one is that there was a single Girl child ( Sarah sometimes, Tamar others) The
other is that there were 3 children, 2 Boys and a Girl fulfilling the royal requirement of 2 male heirs. There names (as I recall) were Sarah/Tamar the first born, Jeshua (called Justus) the first born male , and Joseph.

4. other sources for the bloodline. Jeshua’s brothers and sisters also present possibilities for the transmission of the Davidic line. As far as I know there is no mention of their families or how many children they had. Again given the custom of the time at least some would be expected.
This makes the possibility of a surviving Davidic blood line more likely.

Originally posted by greywolf1

I'm not sure what you mean, exactly?

here are a few of the factors involved.
First if we accept that Jeshua was of the Davidic line then we must also accept that
his siblings were also of the Davidic line.

That is where the problem lies, though - as far as any authority given to the bloodline of David (because that IS the true seat - according to the Bible, which is, for this particular issue, the only document providing any sort of guideline or rule.)

AND, Jesus was from the WRONG bloodline as far as inheriting the throne of David:

As I live, saith the LORD, though Coniah the son of Jehoiakim king of Judah were the signet upon my right hand, yet would I pluck thee thence; And I will give thee into the hand of them that seek thy life, and into the hand of them whose face thou fearest, even into the hand of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, and into the hand of the Chaldeans.
And I will cast thee out, and thy mother that bare thee, into another country, where ye were not born; and there shall ye die. But to the land whereunto they desire to return, thither shall they not return.
Is this man Coniah a despised broken idol? is he a vessel wherein is no pleasure? wherefore are they cast out, he and his seed, and are cast into a land which they know not?
O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the LORD.
Thus saith the LORD, Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah.
~Jeremiah 22:24-30

Even though Jeremiah writes it as 'Coniah' - this is Jeconiah:

Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning Jehoiakim the son of Josiah king of Judah; They shall not lament for him, saying, Ah my brother! or, Ah sister! they shall not lament for him, saying, Ah lord! or, Ah his glory!
~Jeremiah 22:18

See the 28th chapter of Jeremiah; this is the link between Jeconiah and the 'false prophet.'

The bloodline that is eligible for the throne of David must come BEFORE Jeconiah:

The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
Abraham begat Isaac;
and Isaac begat Jacob;
and Jacob begat Judas
and his brethren;
And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar;
and Phares begat Esrom;
and Esrom begat Aram;
And Aram begat Aminadab;
and Aminadab begat Naasson;
and Naasson begat Salmon;
And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab;
and Booz begat Obed of Ruth;
and Obed begat Jesse;
And Jesse begat David the king;
and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias;
And Solomon begat Roboam;
and Roboam begat Abia;
and Abia begat Asa;
And Asa begat Josaphat;
and Josaphat begat Joram;
and Joram begat Ozias;
And Ozias begat Joatham;
and Joatham begat Achaz;
and Achaz begat Ezekias;
And Ezekias begat Manasses;
and Manasses begat Amon;
and Amon begat Josias;
And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren,
about the time they were carried away to Babylon:
And after they were brought to Babylon,
Jechonias begat Salathiel;
and Salathiel begat Zorobabel;
And Zorobabel begat Abiud;
and Abiud begat Eliakim;
and Eliakim begat Azor;
And Azor begat Sadoc;
and Sadoc begat Achim;
and Achim begat Eliud;
And Eliud begat Eleazar;
and Eleazar begat Matthan;
and Matthan begat Jacob;
And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary,
of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
~Matthew 1:1-16

The Davidic bloodline of Jesus - according to Matthew's lineage, is the one bearing the curse and therefore CANNOT inherit the throne. The whole basis for christianity as far as Christ being on the throne of David is founded on false principles - false prophesy.

And the option of using Luke's genealogy solves the problem of Jeconiah's curse but negates the virgin birth if it is pursued as authoritative; because according to Jewish law, royal bloodlines ARE NOT passed through paternal adoption.

Big problem with the whole christian schematic as far as 'kingship' and the idea of the Messiah King already having come and conquered!

It doesn't work to say God will take back that curse; if that is true, then He could take away the blessings that the christians claim, as well!

This makes the possibility of a surviving Davidic blood line more likely.

There are countless surviving bloodlines of David!

But what of the line from which Mary the Mother decended? Some place I read that
she was also of the Davidic line.

Well, I don't think there is too much information available about that; all I know (or at least what I understand but I can't remember just how off the top of my head) is that Mary and Elisabeth were Levites. And I think that is on Mary's mother, Ann's, side. Mary's fatherhood doesn't seem to be known - assumed to be Joachim, I think?

But then, all that comes from elsewhere beside the bible - and if you go with the RCC's official traditional version, then there is only the lineage of Ann - because of the claims that Mary was by immaculate conception, tool!

These problems, though, are something I am interested in because they pretty much screw up the whole christian theology and no one seems to have noticed.

As far as a holy bloodline to the throne of David, $50 and a DNA test would probably negate the need for biblical lineages, et al.

since Segolene is the daughter of Christ, it is her duty to make sure
that blood line is protected against any harm.

IF that were true - then God would be her protection! Her hedge....

Just like he protected Jesus Christ, ha?

She is the One.

No, she is not.

How do you know she is not. Where is your reasoning?

Originally posted by theTRUTHtheWAY

IF that were true - then God would be her protection! Her hedge....

Just like he protected Jesus Christ, ha?

Who said he was protected? He wasn't! There wasn't any mention of that in the prophesies. But there is for the second one.
He died so SHE wouldn't be under attack.

They didn't listen the first time - but they surely will be nicer the second time around. If not, well, protection is assured this time. Besides that, it's not going to be just one lonely person but a whole bunch of people united by the most powerful cement there is!

How do you know she is not. Where is your reasoning?

What do you mean 'where?' In my head. Where I keep those sorts of things.

Just kidding.

#1 Too old
#2 Wrong date and place of birth
#3 Wrong name
#4 Wrong 'religion'
#5 Interested in French Politics not the kingdom of God
#6 Father abusive - hard childhood

just to name a few...

Originally posted by queenannie38

Originally posted by theTRUTHtheWAY

IF that were true - then God would be her protection! Her hedge....

Just like he protected Jesus Christ, ha?

Who said he was protected? He wasn't! There wasn't any mention of that in the prophesies. But there is for the second one.
He died so SHE wouldn't be under attack.

They didn't listen the first time - but they surely will be nicer the second time around. If not, well, protection is assured this time. Besides that, it's not going to be just one lonely person but a whole bunch of people united by the most powerful cement there is!

How do you know she is not. Where is your reasoning?

What do you mean 'where?' In my head. Where I keep those sorts of things.

Just kidding.

#1 Too old
#2 Wrong date and place of birth
#3 Wrong name
#4 Wrong 'religion'
#5 Interested in French Politics not the kingdom of God
#6 Father abusive - hard childhood

just to name a few...

so of what religion will the one be if I may ask?