Have I Been Abducted??

OK I tried to post this but it told me there was already a thread with that name and it deleted my post. Basically I want to know whether anyone thinks that I've been abducted. I've got no direct memories of actual abduction events, and no memories of being on spacecraft, but there is something weird that has lately been prompting me to consider the possibility.

I'm having lots of strange dreams about aliens and UFOs. I can never remember the specifics of the dreams - only on rare occasions can I remember anything specific. But more UFO dreams than normal certainly. I used to have the odd one or two every now and then, but now it seems like every other dream has aliens in it. Some are so bad that once I've woken from them I fear going to sleep again.

But that's the least of it.

One day not too long ago I woke up screaming in total and utter TERROR. There was nothing in the room - the only thing in the room was my cat fighting with another cat that had come in off the street through the cat-door. I had to actually mentally stop myself from screaming. It was almost like an involuntary action, to the extent that I while I was doing it, yes actually while I was doing it, I was thinking "hang on why am I screaming?". I have absolutely no idea what was stimulating it, but I was totally terrified. Once it stopped I grabbed the invading cat and chucked him outside - afterwards I couldn't stop myself from replaying the event in my head, and each time I did I was no closer to understanding what it was. It certainly wasn't the cat, I love cats, even if they are trying to harm my kitty, and I'm certainly not afraid of them. The only thing I can think of is that I must've feared that something was entering my room, something uninvited...

Here's the other thing - lately, I have a weird extreme fear reaction to the outline, shadow, or silhoutte shape of anything that looks like an alien. If I glance over something that looks like an alien, I get a sudden adrenaline rush and strong feeling of real fear, until I look back and realise that it's just a coat or something in a pile shaped roughly like a figure. Even after that I'm shaky and on edge.

One specific event I remember, is waking up to find what looked like three aliens at the foot of my bed. I was immediately terrified. In actual fact what happened was I had triple vision, I'd woken up with my eyes out of focus, and had looked toward the back of my desk chair which was sideways on, and was illuminated by the light of the computer screen behind it. This created three tall shadows illuminated from behind with bright white light. The most bizarre thing is, an uncontrolled thought went through my head, and the exact words of that thought were "oh no they're here"! For about two hours after that even even the slightest noise sent a jolt of adrenaline through me. My heart rate was through the roof.

My question to you is twofold - 1. does anyone think I have been abducted, or that these are the possible "symptoms" of abduction and 2. should I go for hypnotic regression to find out?

Originally posted by MouseOnMars
One specific event I remember, is waking up to find what looked like three aliens at the foot of my bed. I was immediately terrified. In actual fact what happened was I had triple vision, I'd woken up with my eyes out of focus

sounds like it could be sleep paralysis.
www.csicop.org...

Originaly posted by site
Sleep paralysis occurs in 30% of the general population. In it you wake up in bed, feel paralyzed, and tend to sense a terrifying presence in your room. Sometimes you see something; sometimes you hear noises or even feel electrical shocks throughout your body.

Originally posted by MouseOnMars
should I go for hypnotic regression to find out?

Alot of regressions can lead to creating false memories.

[edit on 11/14/06 by thixotrophy]

Sounds like you're good and spooked!

I went through similar questioning with my own experiences and all i can recommend is to rule out the physical, scientific and tangible possibilities before looking harder at the "aliens" theory.

Sleep disturbances can be caused by soooo many different things. A doctors input is valuable here if you have a GP or family doctor you trust. Lots of people dream of ghosts, paranormal things as well as UFO or aliens and monsters...

Dreams can definitely elicit strong emotions and responses. Night terrors is a possibility. Seeing or hearing something frightening can also trigger nightmares even if it doesn't seem related.

Being afraid of what we don't know is part of human nature I think and the need to apply a reason for our fears is part and parcel to that.

Look into the more "practical" possible causes. If you're still left with nagging doubt, then start searching for alternate causes.

Ultimately it's whatever fits in your heart and mind as an explanation.

I've come to conclusions about my experiences through a lot of searching...both in the realm of science and medicine and in the realm of aliens.

Because there's no proof either way that it's real or not real...most of it is up to you to decide what feels "right".

Best of luck on your search!

Actually, and this is a rare one for me, this one doesn’t meet the criteria for being sleep paralysis. If it is anything sleep related I would lean more toward Night Terrors, at least as far as the sitting up screaming bit goes. It is also possible that you could have sleep apnea, which can cause anxiety, depression, and will sometimes cause you to have strange frightening dreams and remember them with a greater frequency. Personally I think that you might have just gotten yourself worked up with a fear that this could be happening and are being reactionary to anything that fits that theme, but these other things can be checked out as well.

Anyway folks should get a good laugh that I don’t think its sleep paralysis for a change.

Listen to this then

I'm not sure wheather I have been abducted, I do not have strong enough proof for others who do not expierence this, But know my self deep down that it is taking place with me, and they are using me.

My reason for a claim that I do get abducted

When I was younger I always used to sleep walk, nearly every night, while I was in bed I used to get this strange feeling come over me and it was like gas and air at the hospital feeling, thats when I knew I would be sleep walking that evening.(when i was 13).
I would enter my parents room and just stare until they woke up and put me to bed.
On other nights I would enter my sisters room and just stare until they woke up and put me to bed.
My mother always used to stop me going outside in the middle of the night.
One time i was searching the house and my mum asked me what i was looking for to which I replied "my tail".
When they saw me in the morning and told me, I thought they were crazy and making it up, but they were telling the truth.

Years later I called for a friend to go out, he told me to wait for him in the park. I waited in the park and then all of a sudden found myself waking up after 2 hours had passed and I never remember falling asleep or even being tired. Atfer feeling strange as to had happened to me, I saw a massive fireball travelling across the sky very slowly. it was about a mile away in the distance across the field and it looked like it was landing. That was my 1st ufo encounter at the age of about 15.

I am 26 now, I never did well at school and was considered to be abit slow and naughty. Finished school now and working. I feel that all of a sudden I am smarter more clever, I can remember names,numbers, etc extremely well. I have progressed so fast in my company that people at work assume I must have really good qualifications. but I dont, I am very good at learning new languages also. very good on computers and solving puzzles. I am also very good at coming up with ideas and sometimes I shock my friends and they cant believe how advanced I can think sometimes.

I seem to encounter alot of ufo's but keep it quiet as I dont want people to label me.

I also suffer from a condition which has been posted on here before about people who sleep walk but sleep sex, but I never know in the morning until my partner tells me how nice last night was.

I sometimes find my phone clicking away while I am on conversations, the other day the phone would bleep every time I spoke but not when the person on the other end spoke, so I told them I would hang up as I thought someone was tapping.

I do believe they are using me but they are too clever for me to obtain any kind of proof apart from my own words.

I am not mental in any way and I am a healthy being, Has anyone else had similar experiences to mine.

Please reply and sorry for any spelling which I know can offend people sometimes.

Originally posted by thixotrophy

Originally posted by MouseOnMars
One specific event I remember, is waking up to find what looked like three aliens at the foot of my bed. I was immediately terrified. In actual fact what happened was I had triple vision, I'd woken up with my eyes out of focus

sounds like it could be sleep paralysis.
www.csicop.org...

Originaly posted by site
Sleep paralysis occurs in 30% of the general population. In it you wake up in bed, feel paralyzed, and tend to sense a terrifying presence in your room. Sometimes you see something; sometimes you hear noises or even feel electrical shocks throughout your body.

Originally posted by MouseOnMars
should I go for hypnotic regression to find out?

Alot of regressions can lead to creating false memories.

[edit on 11/14/06 by thixotrophy]

No, it wasn't sleep paralysis. I was capable of moving. You're missing the important part - the reason I mentioned it was because I didn't realise that my eyes were unfocused, I saw it, got up quickly, saw what looked like three figures illuminated from behind, reacted, then my eyes automatically focused and I realised it was just my chair and computer screen. What puzzles me is why I would immediately think "alien", and why I would think "oh no they're here". I never EVER used to do that until recently. This has come on all of a sudden.

Also I've often heard a great many people saying that sleep paralysis is nothing more than an attempt to debunk encounters. I personally have never seen any hard evidence to show that sleep paralysis is a real phenomenon or not so I can't comment on that.

4eyedsnake,
Somnambulism (sleep walking) is normal in many young adults; it will gradually go away as the sleep stage in which it occurs (3&4) decreases with age. If you are still doing things in your sleep while in your 20’s that almost fits into REM disorder. That is a parasomnia, and not one that most sleep disorder people see very often, as its rare compared to the other problems we see almost every night such as apnea. I would go see a doctor tell him what you have experienced and have him give you a referral to a specialist with access to a sleep lab to find out what is really going on. There are sleep labs all over the place; they are not as rare as you might think.

As to the other things I think that they can be explained more mundanely; for instance, I really did not excel in things until I got out in the work field, then I took off like crazy. Something like this can sometimes be attributed to simply that you lacked confidence or really lacked interest in school.

Even still, sex while asleep, is a pretty complex task and I am not entirely sure that is possible even with REM disorder. It could be that you have a form of split personality or seizure activity. These can also account for some of your missing time/falling asleep episodes you mention. Either way the only way to be sure is to get checked out medically.

The brain is wonderfully complex and it can really play tricks on someone that seem totally real to that person. I would check out those possibilities before I went the route of saying its something supernatural.


[edit on 11/15/2006 by defcon5]

Originally posted by MouseOnMars
Also I've often heard a great many people saying that sleep paralysis is nothing more than an attempt to debunk encounters. I personally have never seen any hard evidence to show that sleep paralysis is a real phenomenon or not so I can't comment on that.

Well, I wasnt really trying to make a attempt to debunk it with my mention of sleep paralysis. More of a alternative answer, since most cases involve not being able to move, which is a case of sleep paralysis. (A PERCENT of the time.)
Plus you were not very clear on if you could/couldnt move. (Excuse me if i misread it and you stated it)

Only replying now because when I first loaded this thread it only had the one response. Also some of what people said has reminded me of something.

I don't remember this, but, according to my parents when I was very young (like maybe 2, 3 or 4) I used to have visits in bed at night from what I described as the "scary lady and the hairy man". Apparently they used to come down from the cieling, and I could only see their faces. I'm told this went on for quite a while.

I've always been quite a smart one I guess. Always been sceptical, quite scientific, and very independantly minded. I was always very logical - if I saw something that looked like an alien, I wouldn't fear it, I wouldn't even think "it's an alien", because I had a logical, rational point of view on the subject. My point of view was that life was probably unique to earth, and that it if it wasn't unique, it would at least be a rare occasion indeed that another lifeform could reach earth, and that in that eventuality it would visit someone important, not the house of some random person. I was like the Dana Scully of the X-files duo, to give you an idea. Totally sceptical, always trying to find an alternative, more likely solution.

But for some reason, that all went out of the window in the past 3 months. Now if I see something, it's instantly an alien. No more, "oh heh, that looks kind of like an alien" - it's "holy mother of god I wanna get out of here! they're coming for me".

Originally posted by MouseOnMars
But for some reason, that all went out of the window in the past 3 months. Now if I see something, it's instantly an alien. No more, "oh heh, that looks kind of like an alien" - it's "holy mother of god I wanna get out of here! they're coming for me".

What all started this? (Beofr this 3 months) The trigger, persay. Have you been emerging yourself in any projects, studying, etc?

Originally posted by MouseOnMars

Also I've often heard a great many people saying that sleep paralysis is nothing more than an attempt to debunk encounters. I personally have never seen any hard evidence to show that sleep paralysis is a real phenomenon or not so I can't comment on that.

If you cannot tell I work at a sleep disorders facility at the moment, and I can tell you that sleep paralysis is a real disorder. It can happen to anyone at any time, but some things can make it happen more frequently.

In a nut shell what occurs is that when you enter the stage of sleep that we call REM, or Rapid Eye Movement, your brainwaves speed up to almost the same frequency as when you’re awake. Therefore, your brain is quite active during this time while your dreaming. The things that we look for to judge when a person has entered REM are higher frequency brain activity, loss of muscle tone, and eye movements. So, while your brain is in that state it is possible for your muscles to react to whatever it is your dreaming that you are doing. In order to keep you from acting out your dreams your brain emits a chemical that causes you to become paralyzed.

In some patients like the one I mentioned above, the system or chemical that causes the paralysis is not functioning for some reason and you get what we call REM disorder. On the opposite end of the spectrum are those that wake up while their brain is still in that state of dreaming and paralysis, and these are your sleep paralysis sufferers. Simply waking from REM too fast can cause this to occur, I have also heard of some medications that seem to make it occur with increased frequency.

Point is, that it is a real thing. It was not made up to debunk UFO’s. Its actually pretty funny though that some people are saying that, I am sure some folks around here will get a good laugh about that one.

Originally posted by defcon5
Point is, that it is a real thing. It was not made up to debunk UFO’s. Its actually pretty funny though that some people are saying that, I am sure some folks around here will get a good laugh about that one.

Correct me if i'm wrong, But, hasnt this been around for some time, befor people where saying it was for debunking UFO's and alien encounters?
I think somewhere in china or japan, it was called old hag? the sensation of a old woman sitting on your chest.

[edit on 11/14/06 by thixotrophy]

Originally posted by thixotrophy

Correct me if i'm wrong, But, hasnt this been around for some time, befor people where saying it was for debunking UFO's and alien encounters?
I think somewhere in china or japan, it was called old hag? the sensation of a old woman sitting on your chest.

Its been around as long as man has, but yes if you look throughout history you will find different ways that man tried to explain it before we understood sleep. Some of those things would be the Oriental “Old Hag”, European “Incubi/Sucubi”, and even possibly the Egyptian “Sons of Osiris or Anubis" (I forget which one it was).



Edit to fix the Anubis thing...

[edit on 11/15/2006 by defcon5]

Originally posted by thixotrophy

Originally posted by MouseOnMars
But for some reason, that all went out of the window in the past 3 months. Now if I see something, it's instantly an alien. No more, "oh heh, that looks kind of like an alien" - it's "holy mother of god I wanna get out of here! they're coming for me".

What all started this? (Beofr this 3 months) The trigger, persay. Have you been emerging yourself in any projects, studying, etc?

It started around the same time that I started having lots of weird dreams. One recurring dream was that of vertical mine shafts - more specifically, witnessing people falling down them in my dreams. The horror of realising that someone has died so violently is overwhelming I can tell you, because in those dreams it was as real as anything I've experienced in the waking world. I live in a part of england which during the industrial revolution was the world centre of mining. There are as a result, thousands of mine shafts all over the place. In some areas the ground is such a honeycomb that entire houses have disappeared into the ground. You come across them every so often when out walking, usually capped off, backfilled, or covered with what they call a clwyd cap, which is like a conical spider web-like frame made of steel bar. Some are just fenced off. Occasionally, and very rarely, you'll find one uncapped and unfenced - like a black hole sitting at the surface of the ground, the earth just disappearing down into the blackness. They never bothered me much before the dreams, but now they fill me with fear at the mere sight of them. Capped or uncapped, even if they are backfilled, I won't go anywhere near them - if I find an uncapped one I go straight to the local authorities and get them to cap it off.

I'd also been having weird, horrible dreams with lots of gore prior to the dreams about mineshafts. Dreams where I'd walk into a swimming pool building and there'd be a wall of gore so hideous that I'd have to look away, and the cold flesh would drip from the cieling onto my face - there would be guts and various organs floating in the swimming pool, along with strange creatures swimming around. In another dream, there was a woman cut clean in half, then my dad walks in, takes a knife out, and just dices his hand to pieces. There's one recurring theme in all the dreams, and that's that I react to it like it were real. To begin with I thought my own mind was conspiring against me, I thought I was going nuts. Now I'm beginning to suspect that I'm being tested for my reaction to dreams. That's the only thing I can think of at the moment that makes any sense.

Those are pretty graphic dreams.
My only advice really is..
1) Look up the meaning behind them on a dream site. (If thats your thing)
2) Talk to someone about this
3) Try and find the cause, the trigger, the start of all this, maybe something happened that may not of done anything at the time it happened, but is causeing you problems now.
4) Your brain may be sending you some kind of subconcious ques about a event in your past that still may be lingering, or hasnt been delt with. (Resolving something in short)

This may be better if it was delt by someone with kowledge on the subject.

People here have given some good suggestions. With dreaming you must remember you forget dreams in time, it can be seconds to weeks. If they are not dreams you will remember forever.

The best I can give you is go with what your gut tells you.

Agree with nearly all points made It really does come down to what you feel is "right".

I've posted a few of my experiences and as I've said before, I tried the scientific explanations and the medical ones too...and while they "should" explain it all...I'm still left feeling like there's more to it...


It's like those really tricky puzzles that have many pieces that WILL fit together but aren't the right pieces.

You do end up having to go with your heart and your instinct.

Not true that dreams remembered are all poignant though...some dreams are remembered vividly that really are just dreams.

Hopefully you don't feel "put down" by the mention of the medical explanations being offered...in the end with many things, science is not the "all that" and we're left to explore the alternative.

Seriously though you should rule out any symptomatic response to a possible medical issue before attributing the experiences to the alternative explanations.

Originally posted by thixotrophy
What all started this? (Beofr this 3 months) The trigger, persay. Have you been emerging yourself in any projects, studying, etc?

You say that it all atarted around the time the dreams started, but was there something that changed in your life that may have triggered these dreams. The dreams are obviously a part of the phenomina, so you have to go back past that. My big question would be when did you start getting active both here at ATS, and in researching about this type of thing. This is always the first thing I rule out as an overactive imagineation can be the worst hinderance when dealing with thing such as this.

Nothing changed in my life - that's the weird thing. Everything was normal then all of a sudden, bang. Weird dreams. I'd researched the whole phenomenon of aliens many years previous to this current problem I'm having now, when my whole room filled with a bright light momentarily. I wanted to compare notes with what others had reported.

After that incident I never looked at any research nor even thought about it, because it wasn't until I started asking around the neighbourhood that I found out that it was no more than a security light that someone across the street had just installed, and it just so happened that it was pointed right at my window when he turned it on. Those things are so powerful I tell ya. This account I have now on ATS is newly registered - it's only a couple days old, so I've not got any history on here.

I'd say that if I had an overactive imagination, for one my story would be more embellished with details and "amazing" bits. Frankly my story (at least to me) seems a bit too dull for that. Secondly, I'm not making any claims... I'm actually ASKING for peoples opinions on whether I was abducted, whether anything that I'm saying tallies up with what people here know about abductions. My experience is that people with overactive imaginations never ask for opinions about what might've happened, they're just there to tell a story.

On the face of it, you might say I sound like I'm "reading into it" too much. That I'm seeing something in nothing. What I've neglected to mention up until now is that my main reason for posting is that I actually FEEL like there's a mental blur - it feels like when you've forgotten something but you don't know what, and it bugs you all day. That's how I feel, and I feel it to be alien related, partly because of the dreams, and partly because something is just telling me, like gut instinct, that that is what it is. As I say I've never felt like this before - it could be nothing, I'm honestly not the kind of guy to make this kind of stuff up though. I've told you everything how it happened, exactly, with nothing fabricated or embellished. I'd be perfectly happy (in fact I'd prefer it) if someone could show me conclusively that I wasn't abducted. I don't WANT to believe like some others - if it's real it's real, if not then granted it's not as exciting but I can still get on with my life.

Originally posted by thixotrophy

sounds like it could be sleep paralysis.
[edit on 11/14/06 by thixotrophy]

It does not sound at all like this kind of behaviour results from clinical sleep paralysis and I fail to see how so many people come here to just post in threads like this and so confidently assert this. It is as if they have never read a page in their lives about alien abduction and have no such interest in ever doing so. I've had paralysis and it did not cause we to come out of it screaming?