Communism dying? Apparently not in America

So we had the fall of the great USSR, now we just have China, North Korea, Vietnam and Cuba left as Communist countries. All signs indicate that Communism, on a global scale, is on the way out. Then I came across this site www.cpusa.org... where you can actually join the Communist Party of the USA. Now what ramifications might be involved with an American born citizen joining the Communist Party I don't know...Passport limitations? Visa denial to other countries? Certainly never working in any governmental job and perhaps even being monitored by the government. In any case I find it fascinating that they are here as a party and imply they have large numbers. Do they honestly think Communism ever has a chance of happening in America? Now I will grant that America is very, very young (being only a little over 200 years old) compared to the rest of the world and anything is possible. I also find it rather amusing that their motto is "People Before Profits" and they have an online shop selling merchandise and saying "Shop 'til Capitalism Drops." So what are some of your thoughts on this, especially if we have anyone who has lived in the former USSR or other Communist countries.

Does it have a chance? Of course. The country is falling because of the mechanisms long ago set in motion by which to take us down. Liberalism, removal of God, removal of nationalism, the dumbing down of the citizenry, and the gradual setting in place of socialist institutions, yeah. It has a chance. And we will fall. I wonder, did the Soviet Union really fall, or is it a ruse?

its all the liberals fault! somethign needs to be done and fast!

Now this is a thread that I can get excited about!

Where I live the fools just voted at all three levels liberal governments while we are in debt up to our butts!

Liberalism will destroy what the elitists don't.

I honestly wonder if the govenment is getting the list of all the people who join the CPUSA, it really wouldn't surprise me. The time of McCarthy really wasn't all that long ago and I'm sure there are still many Communist fearing paranoids around.

Whereas communism was the bogeyman used to quell dissidence in the Cold War era, now it's terrorism. Homeland Security, TIA, Patriot & Victory Acts can all be used to secure information without your consent or detain you. No matter who you are or whether there has ever been cause for suspicion about you.

Actually, I'd say that the Bush Administration is getting us into Facism more than Communism...

Heil Fuerher Bush & his Glorious Fourth Reich!

Originally posted by fingerprint
www.cpusa.org...

I don't dare to click the link. I'm pretty sure it would start a chain reaction in my pc with a warning message as : " Total destruction in 10 seconds. Minimal safety point to reach is 1000 miles. Have a nice day. 9....8....7....6.....

P.S : And I don't think that chosing between communism or nazism/fachism is a choice. In both case, we're all screwed up.

[Edited on 13-11-2003 by ultra_phoenix]

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Does it have a chance? Of course. The country is falling because of the mechanisms long ago set in motion by which to take us down. Liberalism, removal of God, removal of nationalism, the dumbing down of the citizenry, and the gradual setting in place of socialist institutions, yeah. It has a chance. And we will fall. I wonder, did the Soviet Union really fall, or is it a ruse?

Man, you have the cliche GOP dogma drilled in don't you?

Automaton on autopilot?

Now what ramifications might be involved with an American born citizen joining the Communist Party I don't know...Passport limitations? Visa denial to other countries?

I know that people who join communist parties in other countries are often denied entry to the USA, not just to work, but to take a holiday.

In any case I find it fascinating that they are here as a party and imply they have large numbers. Do they honestly think Communism ever has a chance of happening in America?

Communist parties exist everywhere. It is a system which appeals to working people all over the world, aswell as political thinkers. It's nice to see some political diversity coming from the US. It is quite strange however, that the CPUSA has survived through all the paranoia and persecution.

Do you think the government would shut them down if they had the chance? It seems that they allow them to operate so as not to appear undemocratic.

And I don't think that chosing between communism or nazism/fachism is a choice. In both case, we're all screwed up.

UP, would you rather live in Nazi Germany or communist Cuba? Given that in a Facist state you could be murdered for being racially "impure". I can see why neither system would be desirable to you, but I think you are insulting those who suffered under Fascism. Communism, as long as the power held within the system is not abused, is beneficial to the average person. Fascism's purpose is to allow one specific group to prosper at the expense of others, namely scapegoats like the Jews.

Originally posted by fingerprint
I honestly wonder if the govenment is getting the list of all the people who join the CPUSA, it really wouldn't surprise me.

In Communist America, the government is watched by you!

Thank you, Mr. Smirnoff...

Originally posted by MidnightDStroyer
Actually, I'd say that the Bush Administration is getting us into Facism more than Communism...

Heil Fuerher Bush & his Glorious Fourth Reich!

im not sure you commies could do any better. after all, Shrub had to pick up the trash from the previous admin.

Originally posted by KrazyIvan
im not sure you commies could do any better. after all, Shrub had to pick up the trash from the previous admin.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Previous Administration? Trash? Listen boy, the Clinton Administration was sterile compared to the current one.

its all the liberals fault!

it's always someone's fault! If it hadn't been bush, it would have been gore, it if weren't the liberal's fault, it would be the republicans, or the democrats (i have no bias towards any of these)