Reptilians...come on now, help me get it??

Just because some ancient civilization drew it on a cave is by no stretch of even the wildest of imaginations proof that they existed

I have no idea if they were ever drawn on caves.....But if you read the links I posted you would know they are talked about in ancient literature....meaning they actually wrote words about them.

And it was not just one culture it was all around the world in ancient text. So at the very least there is a universial belief in reptilians going back 1000's of years.

I think the question that needs to be asked is where or how did this universial belief come about?

Originally posted by etshrtslr
I think the question that needs to be asked is where or how did this universial belief come about?

Anthropomorphic Personification.

Humans have an amazing ability to humanize anything and everything. Whether it's finding a face on the moon, animism, or fictional works where walking trees bash orcs, humans have the ability to super-impose their own ego over something non-human. This is seen more times in history, throughout any and all cultures, than probably any other shared cultural aspect. In some places, it was a walking cow (minotaur), in some places it was clay (golems), in some places it was a reptile (reptillians).

The most feared threats to mankind's life were the most likely to be remembered because survival is a pretty good motivator. Reptiles are the closest relative to humans that are both commonly found and often poisonous (especially snakes). Biological memory will have an aversion to poisonous critters that is so strong as to make them quite memorable, noticable, and above-all, inherit the brunt of mankind's fear and loathing when applied to Anthropomorphism. Folklore, religious parables, and superstitions, dating back from times before written history, will all contain warnings about such critters in the form of a story about evil snake-people that is much more easily understood by the ignorant ape known as early mankind.

Humans have an amazing ability to humanize anything and everything.

I understand what your saying and I dont disagree with it.

But when it comes to the so called reptilians there are stories, foklore and myth from every continent on this planet and I dont just think its because our ansestors where afraid of snakes and lizards.

I think big cats, bears and other animals have killed more people through history than reptails have and yet there are not the same myths or beliefs regarding those animals.

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by etshrtslr
But when it comes to the so called reptilians there are stories, foklore and myth from every continent on this planet and I dont just think its because our ansestors where afraid of snakes and lizards.

I think big cats, bears and other animals have killed more people through history than reptails have and yet there are not the same myths or beliefs regarding those animals.

That would probably be because reptiles are much more widespread than cats and bears, except at the farthest northern and farthest southern climates (which, incidentally, did develop deep mythologies surrounding the local warm-blooded fauna that could survive in such a locale).

Further to the point, reptiles have been around FAR longer than mammals. Assuming that you allow for evolution, our genetic memory and fear of reptiles dates back before even the first mammal existed.

As the Libra has said, we (humanity) have so many ideas, tales, myths, and traditions ingrained into our psyche that it is a giant human jigsaw puzzle that we must sift through all the data to see what belongs!

I have posted a thread to communicate with Mr. John Lear as well. I am attempting to see where he stands on all of this, since at the very least he will have a strong opinion and some supporting evidence behind it. This I respect, and I hope you all will tune into that thread if you feel like it, you are more than welcome.
Mondogiwa

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lots of good threads out there....

good luck

elevatedone, thanks again and I am trying! Just soooo much information here that I think I am getting a head fire!

I really want to ask him or you for that matter about the security guards at area 51 getting heart attacks due to all the horrendous looking aliens. I want to delve into that one so that I can sort of paint a mental picture in my own head!!?? Any help on that one sir???

Mondo

Originally posted by BeautyBeyondBelief
I think that Reptillians are totally real. They're like said to be enemies with some of the Grey aliens and the Nordics "Human aliens". I just posted on this but...
Reptillians are said to shapeshift like Darth Maul in the Phantom Menace Star Wars movie.
This is why I think the devil was a shapeshifter b/c he's always depicted as "DRAGON" or "Serpent". But I don't know for sure...

oh! my God!!!! darth mauls a shapeshifter!!! oh my god!!! the reptillions!!! save us!!!


jesus!! where do you guys get this from

[edit on 7-11-2006 by Capt DogToffee]

That's exactly what I am trying to find out! Sometimes I wonder if people even read their own posts to see how whacked they sound. Pretty soon people are gonna start saying that Darth Maul is real too, and before anybody responds that he is, don't even go there.......please.
Mondogiwa

Abductee testimony points to the Greys, Nordics (genetically engineered Homo sapiens), and Hybrids serving under the Reptilians. They are not in conflict with one another but all serve in the same empire. The Preying Mantises are also part of the Zetan ruling elite.

Here are some sites which address the Reptilian aliens:

Alien Abductions In The 21st Century

Disinformation, Extraterrestrial Subversion & Psychological Reductionism

'The Scotsman' On Abduction

Reptilian humanoid

Synopsis of Alien Master Plan

Donald Worley: A Journey Into The World of Reptiles & Hooded Aliens

REPTILIANS

I don't agree with all of the above but it does indicate that whether real or just perceived, there is a strong Reptilian influence in our society.

I also don't agree with David Icke's appraisal that there are shape-shifting Reptilians in high levels of government.

Originally posted by Mondogiwa
That's exactly what I am trying to find out! Sometimes I wonder if people even read their own posts to see how whacked they sound. Pretty soon people are gonna start saying that Darth Maul is real too, and before anybody responds that he is, don't even go there.......please.
Mondogiwa

mond: you are a breath of fresh air

for a seemingly crazy post you've asked a good question which seems to have answered itself judging from the replies

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Abductee testimony points to the Greys, Nordics (genetically engineered Homo sapiens), and Hybrids serving under the Reptilians. They are not in conflict with one another but all serve in the same empire. The Preying Mantises are also part of the Zetan ruling elite.

hey mond, preying mantis's mow (supertroopers ref)

Thanks Captn,
!
I just like to get people to actually think about what they are saying!

Although we are expressing opinions as well, people must take a moment before they just throw out things which can really freak some other people out (present company excluded of course). I am open to so many things, but come on people.......tell me WHY you have been dragged into this ideal.

Ancient Chinese Saying, "A fool chatters, while a wise man listens".

Peace, looking forward to more posts, Mondo

Originally posted by Mondogiwa
Thanks Captn,


Although we are expressing opinions as well, people must take a moment before they just throw out things which can really freak some other people out

i totally agree, but i think back to times when ive walked down lonely dark roads & been freaked out - it does'nt mean what freaked me out was real

maybe a sh@# analogy but i hope you know what i mean

i dont mean to sound patronising to anyone cause the times ive been freaked out, its felt pretty real

p.s. i live in england - i know what dark lonely country roads are all about - lol

[edit on 7-11-2006 by Capt DogToffee]

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Originally posted by Capt DogToffee

Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Abductee testimony points to the Greys, Nordics (genetically engineered Homo sapiens), and Hybrids serving under the Reptilians. They are not in conflict with one another but all serve in the same empire. The Preying Mantises are also part of the Zetan ruling elite.

hey mond, preying mantis's mow (supertroopers ref)

I find it amazing that someone who barely started posted in ATS has the arrogance to assume that he knows everything about aliens.

Especially without doing any research on the subject.

Your ignorance and prejudice is precisely why more abductees don't come out in the open and discuss their experiences.

I mean what's the point?

They immediately have their alien encounters compared to fictitious aliens in movies which bear little or no resemblence to the real thing

Capt,

You make a great point, and to all who are reading this and wish to post, I/we are not trying to come down on you at all, just want something to back up these claims. Whether or not I believe this actually takes a back seat to the notion of why? As far as Capt. being totally freaked out, that is natural and why is that? Well we all get freaked out from time to time, BUT more often than not, we look back and laugh at ourselves because there really was no reason at all. The mind starts to guess, heartbeat goes through the roof, things become an upward spiral if you will until we feel removed from the situation and safe.
We all go to horror movies and get freaked out right, but does anybody(that is sane that is) really believe what is happening on screen is really happening?? NO, of course not, the mind plays wicked tricks on us sometimes and before too long we can actually start to make up stories out of nothing but air. Somethings are beyond comprehension I agree, and I am as curious of the unknown as any of you are, but I will never discount the minds ability to create things on its own, we are after all, very emotional creatures that tend to fear the unknown at heart, thus the reason we must start to try and understand others before we kill each other much less another species of intelligent beings! Whew, that took a while!
Peace again, Mondo

I am attempting to see where he stands on all of this, since at the very least he will have a strong opinion and some supporting evidence behind it.

I respect John Lear but he has stated many times on various threads on ATS that he has no proof they are just his opinions.....So if you are looking for him to provide you evidence of reptilians that has not already been presented on this thread I think you're going to be sorely disappointed.



[edit on 7-11-2006 by etshrtslr]

Originally posted by thelibra

Originally posted by Mondogiwa
Could somebody please give me a shred of something that helps me to understand this fascination??

Ah, yes, well, here's the story as I understand it.

Long ago, in a continent far away, there was a war between the grays (in the Middle Eastern region of Earth) and the reptillians (on Atlantis), for control over their human cattle. The reptillians decided to launch nukes at the grays, which wiped out all their structures and traces of their technology. However, the grays were so advanced they transcended into incorporeal beings that fed off psychic energy (psychic vampires), and they drained as much energy from humanity as they could to pull down a tiny dwarf star from space down upon Atlantis, which pretty much made it 'splody all over the damn place, and drove a giant hole all the way to the center of the Earth. The star ate up the center of the Earth, hollowing it out. In the aftermath, the few surviving grays flew to Mars where they created a massive series of underground bases linked by canals, and the few surviving lizardmen fled below Earth, into the hollows, where they created a society with an inverted horizon. The psychic vampires, on the other hand, were free to roam the surface, but having burned out most of the available energy, had nearly no ability manipulate the environment anymore, all they could do is influence the thoughts of their human cattle.

So they encouraged the cattle to breed, and worship, which gave the psychic vampires more energy, which they re-invested back into the cattle. As civilizations and religions resulted, these psychic vampires became as gods, or at least were worshipped as such. These gods, however, soon found that human energy is a finite resource and not all these psychic vampires could share peacefully, thus the religious wars started. In the middle of these religious wars, the grays had rebuilt enough of their civilization and technology to begin scouting trips back to Earth where they discovered the reptillians had gone underground. The grays began digging expeditions to get to the reptillian underground lairs, using the Egyptians and their slaves for labor, and pyramids capped each of the excavation sites. However, the psychic vampires did not appreciate the intrusion upon their turf, and thanks to the energy drummed up by widespread belief, drove the grays from Egypt with various plagues that caused OSHA violations to the point that ombudsmen refused to dig any further. The grays were driven from Earth once again, and the pyramids were closed off and used for storage of useless crap like corpses and gold (which was worthless back then, since everyone and their brother had it).

Unfortunately, these digs alerted the Lizardmen to the fact the Grays still existed and so they burrowed up through the holes to find all these corpses, gold, and sacred texts laying around... so they snatched them up, took them down into the lairs, and used them to make airships. However, they found out the humans had gotten too numerous and powerful (they'd pretty much killed off most of the gods that hadn't already killed each other off). So instead of conquering right away they decided to pilot these craft around and release chemtrails into the atmosphere to weaken their adversaries.

And that's why 9/11 happened. Wait...what was the question?

feckin hell, is all i can say - totally gobsmacked, im gonna ring hollywood now. if starwars got backing, all i can say is we are minted

Originally posted by Mondogiwa
As far as the devil is concerned, well I think the devil can take the form of whatever it wants...creature..man...demon..whatever is best way for the devil to control and get to you. I am a God loving and fearing man...spiritual warfare is and always has been happening IMO. Thank God himself for preventing us from being subject to being a part of it while we are visitors on this Earth.

Your belief in a devil that can take any form it wishes is no more fantastic than the belief held by many - some from direct research and/or experience - that there are Reptilian aliens.

In fact, it is MORE probable that Reptilian aliens exist than a devil running around with a pointed tail and pitchfork.

How many testimonials has ANYONE heard lately about the devil described above?

Websites?

Anything?

Or are we just to believe the Bible as the ONLY AND INFALLIBLE WORD OF GOD?