Saddam Hussein Sentenced To Death

Originally posted by shots
Two things wrong with that assumption Souljah.

1. I do believe, there was a warrant out for his wife's arrest as well as his daughters. So it is highly doubtful the Russian story is accurate simply because if she had gone to see him she would have been arrested.

2. His wife hired 20 lawyers to defend him, something one would hardly do if it were his double as is alleged.

Nice Come Back, shots!

Touche.

Read this;

Mrs Saddam says Saddam is not Saddam

After the Russians applied enormous diplomatic pressure, America was finally obliged to allow Sajida Heiralla Tuffah access to her husband in Qatar, where he had been flown in some luxury aboard a United States Air Force VIP jet.

Well, you could have heard a pin drop all the way across Qatar. Sajida arrived from Syria with her official escort Sheikh Hamad Al-Tani, and then entered the prison, emerging only moments later pink with rage and shouting, "This is not my husband but his double. Where is my husband? Take me to my husband".

American officials rushed forward to shield Mrs Saddam from perplexed Russian observers, trying to insist that Saddam had changed a lot while in custody and she probably didn't recognise him. This was certainly not the best way to handle the Iraqi President's wife. "You think I do not know my husband?" Sajida shouted furiously, "I was married to the man for more than twenty-five years!" Then she stormed off, never to return.

Well, looks like she did see Her alleged "Husband" after all.

Now let's check out yet another Suspecious thingy about the Saddam Capture;

Saddam capture staged, McDermott charges

Rep. Jim McDermott of Washington, the Democratic congressman who went to Baghdad last year to say that President Bush would lie to the American people in order to justify war, has now accused the president of timing Saddam Hussein's capture for political ends.

Pressed by Mr. Ross about whether he meant that the timing of the capture was driven by politics, Mr. McDermott said: "I don't know that it was definitely planned on this weekend, but I know they've been in contact with people all along who knew basically where he was. It was just a matter of time till they'd find him.

Former Marine Says Saddam Capture Staged

A former U.S. Marine who participated in capturing ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein said the public version of his capture was fabricated. Ex-Sgt. Nadim Abou Rabeh, of Lebanese descent, was quoted in the Saudi daily al-Medina Wednesday as saying Saddam was actually captured Friday, Dec. 12, 2003, and not the day after, as announced by the U.S. Army.

“I was among the 20-man unit, including eight of Arab descent, who searched for Saddam for three days in the area of Dour near Tikrit, and we found him in a modest home in a small village and not in a hole as announced,” Abou Rabeh said. “We captured him after fierce resistance during which a Marine of Sudanese origin was killed,” he said. He said Saddam himself fired at them with a gun from the window of a room on the second floor. Then they shouted at him in Arabic: “You have to surrender. … There is no point in resisting.”

“Later on, a military production team fabricated the film of Saddam’s capture in a hole, which was in fact a deserted well,” Abou Rabeh said.

Well this sure is Interesting.

Saddam Capture STAGED in order to help Mister Bush with his Domestic Support?

I have a certain feeling of Deja-WU, reading at the headlines today, and the perfect timing between the death sentance to Saddam and Midterm Elections in the States.

So how did this "Capture" Happen?

We got him: Kurds say they caught Saddam

Washington's claims that brilliant US intelligence work led to the capture of Saddam Hussein are being challenged by reports sourced in Iraq's Kurdish media claiming that its militia set the circumstances in which the US merely had to go to a farm identified by the Kurds to bag the fugitive former president.

Col. Hickey tells his troops to keep quiet about Saddam capture

It sounds to me that Hickey is giving them what turned out to be the official story before warning them to shut up about what really happened. Why would Hickey need to tell them that he was found 'literally hiding in a hole' if they had found him? They would already know this. This is consistent with reports claiming Saddam was handed over to the US by Kurdish militia on November 20-23.

Sooooooooo, who CAPTURED Saddam?

US or Kurdish Forces?

And why do Ex-US-Marines say, that Saddam Capture, as we seen it in the Mainstream Corporate Media, were STAGED?

Why did Colonel Hickley say to his troops to "Keep the Saddam Capture Quiet"?

And most Important: Who is BEHIND this Staging, which almost always seem to have perfect timing for Mister Bush?

[edit on 6/11/06 by Souljah]

Your Logic has several flaws in it Souljah, the main one being he has very high paid lawyers and they are not fools. If they thought for one minute that it was not him they would (I know I would) demand new DNA tests by an independent source.

And that as I stated earlier has not been done leaving only one solution it is him wither you like/I it or not.

Originally posted by shots
Your Logic has several flaws in it Souljah, the main one being he has very high paid lawyers and they are not fools. If they thought for one minute that it was not him they would (I know I would) demand new DNA tests by an independent source.

i'm not taking sides but:

why can't these lawyers be paid off by the US???

why can't the whole trial be staged by the US??

Originally posted by shots
Your Logic has several flaws in it Souljah, the main one being he has very high paid lawyers and they are not fools. If they thought for one minute that it was not him they would (I know I would) demand new DNA tests by an independent source.

Three or Four of his Lawyers have been Assassinated.

The Judge resigned the Trials.

And please answer me, where did the US Military get ORIGINAL Saddam's DNA to compare it to?

And that as I stated earlier has not been done leaving only one solution it is him wither you like/I it or not.

Well it's not about me liking it or not - it's about who the Man looking like Saddam is?

Care to Elaborate on my previous post about the STAGED Saddam's Capture, and how US Forces had him in custody for a time, before they Staged how Marines stormed the village and found him in a Hole?

Originally posted by they see ALL
i thought that the premise was just that "saddam hussein" was "sentenced to death"

that is the title of the thread anyway...

The thread is about "Saddam" being sentenced to death whilst I posted a story which outlines a theory why this is not actually Saddam who is on trial. You know, you actually commented on that aspect of my post :

Originally posted by they see ALL
why would a stunt double want to be tried / hung for something he didn't do, especially when iraq has fallen and etc???

It's not off topic or out of context at all.

Originally posted by they see ALL
allow me to ask another question (or two):

where is the real saddam???

did the US not find him yet???

Saddam is most probably dead under a few dozen tonnes of rubble some where. It would be hard to put pate on trial, it doesnt have the same "awe" factor to it I say that he's most probably dead, and not in hiding, because Saddam would love nothing greater than to release a video showing himself outside of captivity to re-energize his loyal Fedayeen and to severely embarrass the United States.

[edit on 6/11/06 by subz]

Originally posted by Souljah
Well it's not about me liking it or not - it's about who the Man looking like Saddam is?

Care to Elaborate on my previous post about the STAGED Saddam's Capture, and how US Forces had him in custody for a time, before they Staged how Marines stormed the village and found him in a Hole?

Well then since you are so sure it is not him, why not put your money where your mouth is and offer to pay a a new DNA test? That would solve this in a minute. As for answering your other remarks they are not relevant the only thing that counts here is the client/saddam and no one else or what they claimed those can just be seen as allegations and or perhaps some MSM spin if you will.

All I can say as this crap continues is WOW. At what point in time are the supporters of Bush going to realize what has happened here?

We have lies for the reason to start the damn thing.
We have lies to continue the damn thing.
There are questions as to the legitimacy of Saddam.
There are reports that the capture of Saddam, assuming it is actually him, were lies.

Now I see this...
Saddam’s Verdict Announced Four Days Early, Court Won’t Finish Writing Decision Until Thursday

At what point in time does everyone say; "OK, I got this now - we are the bad guys!", at least then we can take the steps to stop being the bad guys instead of insisting that somehow the goodness we did 60 years ago still carries weight today.

Incidently - What is to say that the US took Saddam in when he offered to comply with American demands(Something else I know the US has been lied to by this group), staged the war(Because that is what they wanted int he first place) while Saddam is living large(or at least comfortably) under American protection somewhere else, while the double takes the trial.

Originally posted by shots
Well then since you are so sure it is not him, why not put your money where your mouth is and offer to pay a a new DNA test? That would solve this in a minute. As for answering your other remarks they are not relevant the only thing that counts here is the client/saddam and no one else or what they claimed those can just be seen as allegations and or perhaps some MSM spin if you will.

I love your sense of Humor!

Still you haven't answered me, where does the US get the DNA samples, to confirm, that the man sentanced to death is the REAL Saddam? I mean, does the CIA, the NSA, Army Intel have a database of all dictators they put into Power or something?

And to defend myself - I think that the Staging is, oh, so VERY Important to this story - it has a little bit of Fishy smell; if the Kurds captured Saddam first and then transferred him to US custory, but THEN they staged the entire capture for the Media - doesn't that sunds a little bit, well, STAGED? You have former Marines, Colonels, Senators talking about it - and you still think it has nothing to do with Midterm Elections?

Oh yeah, mister Tony Snow says, that the Iraqi goverment's decision is completly "Independant" and that the current declaration of sentance has nothing to do with the Elections in the USA - YEAH RIGHT!



Sure Tony!

But don't get me wrong - looks like I'm defending Saddam here; actually the man was a PIG, and he deserves his punishment! But, where are the ones that put him into power, that gave him money, that gave him chemical and biological agents, that gave him so much support few decades ago? I am saying, that if Justice was supposed to be EQUAL for all, that he should not be hanging alone there.

He is not the ONLY Warcriminal when talking about Iraq.

[edit on 6/11/06 by Souljah]

Doesn't anyone find it odd on the timing of Saddam verdict, for 50 minutes on Saturday October 28, 2006 Bush and al-Maliki talked by video conference.... Then a week later Court condemns Saddam Hussein to death. Doesn't it seem all to convenient around U.S. election time?


Iraq's Prime Minister al-Maliki is the one who replaced a judge in charge of Saddam Hussein trial not long ago.

I really don't care about Saddam or his look alike lol...... but the timing of his death sentence, seems suspicious.

The people who have no direct links with Saddam in the West or Europe should not say its good that he is going to die.

I think it's quite barbaric that people wish for another persons death, yes he was wrong but not personally to me and I think we are giving in to extreame laws that are not our own and it feeds a kind of hate into our human spirits to think death on another person. Yes its an end of an era when it happens but it does not solve anything if not make more war and destruction in Iraq if not adding a least another 1000 people on the statistical list of deaths. Just clear your thoughts of wanting more death even if its Sadam, it's not our way or our business unless you have a personal agenda. Just don't like people's kill mentality when things are not related to us.

[edit on 6-11-2006 by The time lord]

Regarding the notion that the defense lawyers might be in a conspiracy, I give you a top member of Saddam's legal team:




If anyone would want to see the US go down on charges of trial-fixing, it would be this former US Atty General.

They can't hang Saddam, if he's going to be POTUS in 2009

He already has a campaign site up too:
www.therazor.org...



Blair opposes Hussein hanging CNN

Saddam Hussein must not die Sydney Morning Herald




[edit on 6-11-2006 by Regenmacher]

Originally posted by Souljah
Still you haven't answered me, where does the US get the DNA samples, to confirm, that the man sentanced to death is the REAL Saddam?

Is your memory that short that you forgot his sons were killed already? That alone could determine who he was when you combine that with hair samples, tooth brush (the list goes on and on. taken from his palaces, homes etc.

Not to mention the samples that the CIA most likely collected while Saddam was on our good side, shots.

Jsobecky,

Do you have a source for how the US got the real Saddams' DNA?

"Most likely " doesnt cut it.

Saddam hanging will be postpone until the year 2008 to help Republicans with their elections in that year.

He will be publicly hang for the view and enjoyment of the American people so they remember that is all for the good of the world and fighting terror.

Really, what does Saddam death is going to do to our nation?

No a freaking thing.

What a joke.

[edit on 6-11-2006 by marg6043]

Originally posted by dgtempe


Jsobecky,

Do you have a source for how the US got the real Saddams' DNA?

"Most likely " doesnt cut it.

C'mon now, dg, this is a conspiracy site. The gov't is always being accused of doing dirty deeds without any proof.

Btw, they also have your DNA. But they would never clone you - one dgtempe is more than enough.

Jsobecky,

That was an extremely intelligent comeback.

Why dont you answer the question? Should i put you in a brightly lit room and threaten you with opposite and negative electrical wires or something, while i have a water hose handy??

You dont know- nobody knows.

Originally posted by they see ALL
i'm not taking sides but:

why can't these lawyers be paid off by the US???

why can't the whole trial be staged by the US??

don't forget about me shots

this quote is from a few posts up...

I hope they show it on TV because man just think of the revenue the big networks would get from it. Or we could do pay per view and put it toward paying for the war. I am sure the adds would be worth more than the Superbowl.