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Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
Originally posted by PuRe EnErGy
How abouts we try to remain practical, short and to the point..
What we do know is our experiences.. so why don't we try to relate our experiences and find common positives and common negatives.. without using scripture or dogma of any sorts.. make it personal..
Words of wisdom PuRe EnErGy!
i infinitly agree with you concerning the "make it personal". For one to know their own truth, or at least be pursuing it, is a pre-requisite i would think to knowing the truth of others.
i also see a great deal of truth with everything else you said.
however (not a negative) i think we do not always know our experiences, but we only know how we percieved them.
what i mean is this:
All our senses (touch, sight, smell, hearing, taste, etc...) input.
All our sensory input from all our senses first gets delivered to our subconscious mind, and it is our conscious state of mind which decides what sensory input it can accept.
so, we are not percieving our experiences. in fact we are percieving only 0.000000002% of our experiences consciously.
conscious state of mind = 2,000 thoughts or bits of information being integrated per second.
subconscious mind = 400,000,000,000 bits of information being integrated per second.
So, no. we are not consciously aware of 99.999999997% of our own experiences.
Originally posted by PuRe EnErGy
I would like to point out that no matter, that information is still stored... its like a puzzle.. its up to us to find the shining treasure in the field.. the neural-field.
Originally posted by TheSonOfMan
And jesus said there is no greater deed then for a man to lay down his life for his friends.
Esoteric will be welcomed were im going...as will many others.
Originally posted by magicmushroom
Sonofman you claim to be a religeous person and an understanding one but you tell others with different views to get lost.
Then you know nothing of the teachings of Jesus
even those who crusified him he forgave them yet you cannot even bring yourself to hear the voices of others.
He and his followers did not tell people to get lost.
How do you expect to have any credibility to say you dont care or are not intersted again does not come from one of great belief or faith.
You have your idea's and your entitled to them
But others have their views and they are entitled to them just because they do not agree with you does not mean they are wrong or sinners.
You said you are young, well part of growing up is to listen to people who are older and wiser than you, its how we learn, one takes in all the imformation not just the bits we want to hear.
Originally posted by magicmushroom
ET,if you and sonofman wanted to go on a religious recruitment crusade why dont you just come out and say it.
This is a conspiracy site and your shared views are just your opinions arent they, they have the same value as any other person here on ATS.
You both seem facinated in twisting what peolpe say and try and give it some validity, to try and make it fit your agenda/beliefs.
The seven seals could fit any time in mans history over the last 2k years not one decade has gone by without war or famime or other natural disasters so to say the time is now is pointless.
As I said before if something happens you will say its Gods way and if it dossen its still Gods way, well that dose not install belief or faith in anyone.
And Sonofman yes I was around in those times, I have had many lives, that is why I have a greater knowledge of mans existance on this planet.
That is why I know the God you talk of is but the work of man. You think I'm wrong, prove it.
Originally posted by reaganero
i've explained my name to you already. yours on the other hand is blasphemous without thought. i wouldn't think so as much if your "tagline" wasn't "the right hand of god".
anyway, i'm calling you out and so is firebat. it'll either make you spew at the mouth or make you stronger.
Originally posted by reaganero
Son of man. you and i can probably find a common ground.
i think you've found a reason to believe in something false though.
unless you want to test your faith with me then fine.
it's up too you.
you've mixed obvious biblical retoric with new age ideas (that are very dated) but still can be thought through.
nobody knows the makers plan.
only that he has one and your faith and devotion is the only reason to wait and be called upon
but that's in a spiritual world of warfare.
untill then spread love and grow in your relationship with the true son of man
for that is the key to breaking through to the other side (dna and all). peace.
Originally posted by IncarnAngel
I became so wrapped up and obsessed with UN-CODING the bible and its REVELATIONS to RE -REVEAL.
If I put forward my theory and understanding I will be faced with an opporsit view. There are always two very opporsite points of view.
What I have learnt is that FALSE PROPHETS don't even realise they are false prophets and their followers are blinded also.
Fear of breaking tradition, misinterprited scriptures being taught and passed down but no-one wants to change their old ways.
Its all an illusion religion is declining while spirituality is growing
I have learnt that false prophets make you FEAR YOURSELF.
This means you are denied from learning the TRUTH ABOUT WHO AND WHAT YOU ARE
TREE OF LIFE = Who and what you are, those who know this inheritently can eat the fruit it bears because they are worthy.
A false prophet is someone who CLAIMS that they no GOD.
God has punnished all sinners of New Oreleans
"God told me to go to war"
"A holy war in the name of Alluh"
A TRUE PROPHET KNOWS GOD IS AN ENERGY OF PURE LIGHT AND LOVE and love does not judge or punnish!
God will not unleash this on his/her/its creation therefore the 7 seals are not to be taken literelly it is all code and symbolic.
Yes disasters are happening I am not denying that, it is down to the stress humans are putting on the earth as well as other natural factors and some non conspiricy related factors also.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD
PUNNISHING AND DESTRUCTION IS THE WORK OF SATAN
who is very cleaver because so many think satan is god which is what he wants you to think !!
It will take years before religion or spirituality become one HEAVEN ON EARTH when we live to PRE-SERVE LIFE not judge, seperate, destroy and kill one another for different belifes.
so In a way Jesus IS already here within every light worker.
Through CONDITIONING AND FEAR the church would have you belive lightworkers have been possed by the devil or ARE THE DEVIL HIMSELF.
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Lightworkers have activated DNA others have not yet tapped into, this explains Esp, (extra sensory perception) reading people moods when they have their back to you, knowing who is on the phone before you answer it, psychic dreams and I could go on
WHY DENY WHO AND WHAT YOU ARE BECAUSE RELIGION TEACHES US TO FEAR OURSELVES as well as God....HOW CAN YOU FEAR LOVE?
There is no such thing as DEATH AND DEAD because souls live on, we are made up of atoms molecules, protons etc = All energy, Atoms can break down but there is so much energy to just DIE and be DEAD.
We are part of the universe and the universe is part of us, our individual energy will go on for eternity.
It is not true that only SELECT people will be SAVED
for we are all equall in the eyes of the creator who is love. God is I AM
When your are alone, look up to the sky on a dark clear night, clear your mind and JUST BE.....A HUMAN BEING.....not a human doing. Connect to the universe as ONE
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
I coudnt have said it better. Any god that uses fear to control the people is not
God but mans need to control other people. Why in the world would God create mankind then end it all so horribly? God would not do that, I know I can feel Gods love.
Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
"Be formless... shapeless like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle; it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot; it becomes the teapot. Water can flow, and it can crash. Be water, my friend..."
Originally posted by TheSonOfMan
Originally posted by reaganero
i've explained my name to you already. yours on the other hand is blasphemous without thought. i wouldn't think so as much if your "tagline" wasn't "the right hand of god".
anyway, i'm calling you out and so is firebat. it'll either make you spew at the mouth or make you stronger.
So your saying its better to represent the devil,then it is to acknowledge the son of god..the christ, the son of man...the holy one..the 1st and last..the 7 horns and 7 eyes?
I am 100x stronger now!!!!!
Originally posted by magicmushroom
ET & SOM I was not asking you to prove the seals I was refering to the last paragraph I made I said that I had experienced many lives and know much of early man and the falsness of the so called God, I said if you think I'm wrong prove it.
Originally posted by TheSonOfMan
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
I coudnt have said it better. Any god that uses fear to control the people is not
God but mans need to control other people. Why in the world would God create mankind then end it all so horribly? God would not do that, I know I can feel Gods love.
But see what you dont understand is that not everyone loves god..and he knows who loves him and who doesnt...so if you feel his love then he feels your at the same time..but not everyone is loved by god..because first they decided to stop loving him.
People that love money..do not love god.
Jesus said you cannnot serve both money and god.
Originally posted by surrender_dorothy
Can I come?
Is there like a list that you need to get on.
.
and don't just give me that "god's list" or "god chooses" bs, cos if you know that esoteric is going than you must have some list or something
I wanna go.
And in regard to this spaceship. any chance of stowaways? cos if i'm not on the list I still wanna go.
All my life i've been wanting to go on a spaceship
and all my life I been wanting to drink from the fountain of eternal youth.
Originally posted by magicmushroom
As I told you before the book of revelations were a story of natural disasters, it has nothing to do with Bush or the war on terror. An advanced lifeform spoke to John to give him a message of the future, they would know of the earths history and the natural recuring events that happen. How the hell would they know about Bush or anything else and more importantly why would they care. They were passing a message on to save people, all people not just those of a particular race or belief. Only one so ignorant would think that his life was of more worth than any other. What excuses are your going to come up with when your idea's dont pan out, well you have a couple of months to come up with something.
Talk about the seals and back your story up and stop this religeous diatribe, if you beleive your right then get into debate with members instead of this childish I'll take my ball in if you dont play my game. If you want to debate your religion then go on the religeous forum.
I wanna go.
Originally posted by TheSonOfMan
Originally posted by surrender_dorothy
Can I come?
Everyone is invited,but a few are going to show up for the party.
Is there like a list that you need to get on.
Yea its called the BOOK OF LIFE and if your name isnt writen in it..then im ahfraid you wont be making it...sorry
.
and don't just give me that "god's list" or "god chooses" bs, cos if you know that esoteric is going than you must have some list or something
God told me that Esoteric IS going to come..dont be made he didnt invite you yet.
And in regard to this spaceship. any chance of stowaways? cos if i'm not on the list I still wanna go.
All my life i've been wanting to go on a spaceship
and all my life I been wanting to drink from the fountain of eternal youth.
Originally posted by magicmushroom
Som your not talking about the seals or their significance your only want to hear from people of the same religious view if you wanted that why did you not post in the religious forum.
What your are basically saying is this is my religious view if you dont agree then get lost.
So much for the debate on the book of revelations,
a book that was written centuries after the death of jesus by a MAN not a God or the Son of God
I'm glad you beleive in fairy tales because there's libraries full of them and as your young you will have plenty to read
You have the tongue of the Daeman and you still dont know who the Sentient ones are oh wise one.
If you jumble all those words up I'm sure you will make some message out of it.