Anti-masonic myspace page.

Mod Edit to remove plagiarized text from here:

www.menorah.org...

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Please use civility when addressing other members. We also insist that you give credit to your sources as plagiarism is a serious board offence.

I will be watching....

Oh here we go. This just proves that the freemasons can't take the truth. What's the matter give away to many of little secrets. The reference to the Bible placed on the altar of the lodge as the "furniture of the lodge," comparing it to the square and compass rather than giving it the supreme place in the lodge.

It's nice to know that the debate is now one sided. I got plenty on the J.W. but you would just delete it anyway.

Oh and by the way that wasn't taken from the
www.menorah.org...

that was taken from another web-site

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Originally posted by mike316
I think I have addressed your posts. You people asked for proof that freemasonry is a religon I have done that.

Um, no, you haven't. You've yet to address my words. You just continue to COPY & PASTE stuff WITHOUT answering to questions posed to you. I wonder why? Is this a game for you?

For the THIRD time, will you answer my post?

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by mike316
There may be some actual Masons who believe that as well, but if so, they too, have no comprehension as to the teachings of Masonry.

Dude, if they believed what I typed there I would question their sanity. However, that is what I've gleened from YOUR posts. I just put them together. YOU said those thing mate, not me.

Give me a break are your meds starting to kick in to.

I would recommend that you check out the www.abovetopsecret.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">T&C, specifically #'s 1&2.

I think it is you that has no comprehension as to the teachings of Masonry.

Maybe, I've read both of the sides to this issue in this forum but to this point, with few exceptions, only the Masons look openminded to me.

The lie...
“…salvation by faith and the vicarious atonement were not taught as now interpreted, by Jesus, nor are these doctrines taught in the esoteric scriptures. They are later and ignorant perversions of the original doctrines.” (J. D. Buck, “Mystic Masonry,” p.57)

"Acacian: a term signifying a Mason who by living in strict obedience to obligations and precepts of the fraternity is free from sin." (A. Mackey, "Lexicon of Freemasonry, page 16). Strict obedience includes not witnessing about Jesus or even mentioning His name in the Lodge.

Links please so that I can check this out for myself, to see if the context is accurate.

The truth...
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16)

Can argue with that one.

Freemasonry is a religion that is anti-christian.

What is "anti-christian"? I was raised Jehovah's Witness and they believe that other religions are part of Christendom, not the true religion. Look at the divide between Catholicism and Protestantism, they are at odds. What about Evangelical Christianity? Different yet again. Damn, Christianity is fragmented in itself. So, once again, what's your point? Christianity seems to be anti-christian itself.

See, that's how you make an arguement. Logic. If you want help with the "warp drive" theory, let me know.

Um as far as my links/sources go why? So you can e-mail and bully them. Anyway you would just have your mod. buddy delete it anyway. I have stated very clearly in my previous post the trouble with freemasonry. It seems to me that only masons who are twisted into that garbage can never understand what is being said. *.



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Originally posted by Trinityman
He has excerpts from Jim Shaw's book - The Deadly Deception - in which Shaw lies repetively about his experiences within freemasonry.

I particularly liked the bit where he says "George (Bush) and Bill (Clinton) are confirmed freemasons". Confirmed by who? That about sums it up for me.

I wouldn't bother with it, but if anyone wants to discuss any aspect whatsoever of that site I would be happy to oblige.

First of all Freemasonry is secretive so where is all the info for anybody to back up anything about it?

Mind you, being a mason yourself you could tell us things but of course you can't.

So all you can do is shout down people that attack what you love and so how does that make you any better?

Plus: when high level people leave any organization and they tell all.. they are usually given some credibility but not by you of course? What about high level corporate types that spilled the beans.. are they all liars too?

Then there is the most obvious the fact that masonry likes to control the powers that be and hands out 33 degree titles to high level people that espouse their values and commit to them.

What aspect do you wish to discuss.. how every criticism is not valid and only good things can be said about masonry? If that is the case don't waste our time either.

A rational no holds barred open discussion could resolve this on-going debate but we both know why it isn't going to happen.

Never attempt to teach a person that refuses to learn
My point exactly!

denythestatusquo I couldn't have said better myself.

Originally posted by denythestatusquo
Mind you, being a mason yourself you could tell us things but of course you can't.

A rational no holds barred open discussion could resolve this on-going debate but we both know why it isn't going to happen.

Well, I'm not a Mason but the author of this thread is having a hard time answering my questions. Just rhetoric and obfuscation. Why?

I'll debate this with anyone. Basically, I'm game.

Originally posted by mike316
Never attempt to teach a person that refuses to learn

You're sure right about that! If you'd open your mind and listen to actual Masons who actually KNOW some stuff about Masonry, you'd learn something.

You really SHOULD learn before you try to teach, ya' know? Personally I've got over 25 years of dedicated service to Freemasonry under my belt. When did you first start Googling up anti-Masonry?

I'am having a hard time answering nothing. I don't know what to post for it will get deleted anyway. So why waste my time? I proved that freemasonry is a religon,is anti-christian, and covers their actions by doing charity. *



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Masons that actually know what? They are living a lie. I learned that masonry is a joke. How easy it must be to twist someones mind into thinking they can get to heaven for doing "Good works." Just because you are foolish enough to fall for that doesn't mean the rest of us are.

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My snotty attitude well,well,well, that really hurts. 25 years of serving a lie and being a doormat for the devil you really impress me and everyone else.

Please, EVERYONE, no baiting or attacking other posters. This goes for everyone posting to this thread.

[edit on 3-11-2006 by Appak]

It's quite clear that we cannot discuss this topic as adults.

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