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posted on Oct, 31 2006 @ 11:39 PM
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just becuase she is using her hands doesnt mean it is fake.

all she does is use her intention which makes the spoon become easy to bend.


just check it out for yourself.


www.youtube.com...



posted on Oct, 31 2006 @ 11:56 PM
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I'd like to see her try that with a stainless steel spoon. The spoon I saw in the video looked like an easy to bend spoon. Just my thoughts. I don't know what kind of spoon it was but it looks like it would not be suitable to eat anything hard with because it would bend too easily. Some stainless steel spoons bend easily as well but not as easily as the spoon in the video.



posted on Oct, 31 2006 @ 11:58 PM
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Answer : So she can move the spoon out of view while performing the stunt.

Go through the vid frame by frame. Notice that you never see an entire revolution of the handle while her hands are in view. It's quite easy to switch for a pre-bent spoon while her hands are well below the camera angle. She then twists the spiralled spoon around giving the illusion of bending.

No proof here






[edit on 11/1/2006 by eaglewingz]



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by orionthehunter
I don't know what kind of spoon it was but it looks like it would not be suitable to eat anything hard with because it would bend too easily. Some stainless steel spoons bend easily as well but not as easily as the spoon in the video.


what do u mean u dont know what kind of spoon it was!? its a spoon.


and yes, ive had a spoon that has bent easily before... but even then, it would be pretty hard to bend it around as many times as she did.

and by the sound it made when she clicked the 2 spoons, sounded pretty solid metal to me.



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 12:02 AM
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orion, exactly what I was about to say.

Definitely apppears to be cutlery of the variety found in cafe's and canteens which are of a quality that makes them not worth stealing. They can be bent into unrecognizable shapes without having to visit a website first.



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by eaglewingz
Answer : So she can move the spoon out of view while performing the stunt.

Go through the vid frame by frame. Notice that you never see an entire revolution of the handle while her hands are in view. It's quite easy to switch for a pre-bent spoon while her hands are well below the camera angle. She then twists the spiralled spoon around giving the illusion of bending.

No proof here






[edit on 11/1/2006 by eaglewingz]



its not tight at all?

its pretty hard to show someone bend a spoon on camera... she was obviously recording the video herself.... if the video wasnt so "tight" then itd be to far to see, and then someone like you would complain that isnt prrof becuase its not close enough.


is it that hard to believe it to be possible?

you can hear the crunch sound while she bends it.



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 12:19 AM
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that was pretty awesome. have you tried her zensight process divine chronic?



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 12:24 AM
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Originally posted by thehumbleone
that was pretty awesome. have you tried her zensight process divine chronic?


i just stumbled upon her sight just a couples hours ago while i was originally searching for sound healing.


its a good site tho



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by divine chronic
is it that hard to believe it to be possible?


I can believe it's possible.

It's just that the movement of her hands out of view screamed "illusion" to me from the first. I recognized the setup from my study of magic in the wasted days of my youth.


you can hear the crunch sounds while she bends it.


Someone off camera or a noisemaker in her hand can duplicate that easily.

Not to mention that she's selling a product. Since the beginning of time there have been those who used illusion for gain. From the priests in the temples to the travelling "shamans", wonderous feats were used to impress those with coin.

I can believe. I just think the evidence that has less chance for being manipulated is the only evidence that should be discussed. Anything that can be easily duplicated proves nothing and only adds to confusion.



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 12:32 AM
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Here's some tips if the spoon bender wants to be more believable if you can possibly manage to do that on a home made video. She could wear short sleeves to show she is not hiding a spoon. Then show the brand of spoon so that we could try it ourselves to see how easily that spoon bends for us. That is if she is able to bend the spoon herself when it's made out of a better quality material. First she needs to zoom the camera view out enough so that the spoon and her arms are always on video. It's really that simple.

As far as not knowing what kind of spoon it is, many of the better quality spoons have brand names that you can read on the spoon itself. If this one didn't have a brand name on it, that says something by itself as far as the manufacturer of that spoon not wanting to put their name on it. Some of the cheaper spoons bend quite easily.



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by eaglewingz

Someone off camera or a noisemaker in her hand can duplicate that easily.

Not to mention that she's selling a product. Since the beginning of time there have been those who used illusion for gain. From the priests in the temples to the travelling "shamans", wonderous feats were used to impress those with coin.

I can believe. I just think the evidence that has less chance for being manipulated is the only evidence that should be discussed. Anything that can be easily duplicated proves nothing and only adds to confusion.


yes she is selling a product. that's even more reason for her to record herself bending a spoon... to prove her product would be beneficial for those who may are interested.


yea, she couldve switch the spoons. but i doubt this chic did yo.


first.. she would have to be really quick to switch spoons. from the one that is completely unbent, to the one that has only bend bent around once... and then switch to another spoon that has been bent around twice, etc...

if you slow the frames, you can see that she bent it in loops. and after each frame she is bending around and around.

thats pretty hard to fake. bro.


even if it is fake...... then shes alot better than uri geller... now THATS a fake a$$ spoon bender.



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 07:21 AM
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Metal tend to bend easier when it is twisted really fast because it heat up, compare from someone who is bending it slower

It's science nothing special

[edit on 1-11-2006 by IspyU]



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 08:07 AM
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oh yeah, whatever, lets see her bend it without twisting the pssssss out of it. this is a joke to those who really do it , just holding it and watch it bend before your eyes.



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 08:25 AM
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I didn't find the video that impressive considering her straining facial expressions and white knuckles. Seems like she's using more force then she eludes to or thinks she's using.

If she can do that with a piece of steel rebar used in construction then I'll be impressed.



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by IspyU
Metal tend to bend easier when it is twisted really fast because it heat up, compare from someone who is bending it slower

It's science nothing special

[edit on 1-11-2006 by IspyU]



i BET u couldnt even bend a spoon as much as she did.

if its so easy, then YOU try it..... Dont just bend the spoon, but wrap it around a few times, likes she did... if it's soooo easy.



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 10:45 AM
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Well guys, like divine chronic has said, if you think it is fake... reproduce it.
If you think you can take a cheap spoon and bend it like with your hands like that please do and show it here. If you think there are two spoons, then bend up a spoon by any means to show it can be bent around like that.

It is easy for us all to say she is doing this or that. If you have a cam and a spoon reproduce the results. Deny ignorance with proof.



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 11:47 AM
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I spent my time in college working in the cafeteria and I can tell you that that is a commercial spoon, thin grade, 12 to 14 guage, 304 or 18/8 stainless steel; possibly 18/10 but nearly irrelevent. Very cheap and economical.

None the less, the flatware is made from 300 series stainless steel. This designates the "other" metals present in the alloy to give it it's manufacturing properties. Namely Chromium and Nickle, however Molybdenum is often added to higher cost 310 Stainless to avoid pitting and corrosion. That being said, the mechanical properties of the materials are all nearly the same. The varying amounts of Chromium and Nickle are not significant enough to change it's overall tensile strength. This should not be confused with the much harder "Cutlery grade" metals designed to yield a harder cutting edge such as Type 420—"Cutlery Grade" martensitic which is a high-strength Iron/Chromium alloy

For typical 300 series stainless you are looking at 75 ksi tensile strength, 30 ksi yield strength. The yield strength is our area of interest and equals nearly 30000psi - that is Pounds Per Square Inch! Since our flarware is nowhere near a square inch, we need to run some conversions. After consulting the USS tables, it is revealed that 14 Ga. 304 stainless steel has a yield strength of approximately 14.7 pounds of linear pressure - in other words, not a tremendous amount.

What does all of this mean? Basically it means that almost any adult could grab that spoon and rotate it around and re-create that bend without any special tools or unique abilities. In fact, if you witness her technique you will notice that her first few bends are lateral planar bends - meaning straight up and down with no twisting. This will actually HEAT the metal and lower it's overall yield strength making the more complex helical bends much, much easier!

So, in short, there is no magic, no paranormal abilities, no nothing. Just pure science that absolutely any adult (Without arthritis) could easily replicate.



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by kozmo
I spent my time in college working in the cafeteria and I can tell you that that is a commercial spoon, thin grade, 12 to 14 guage, 304 or 18/8 stainless steel; possibly 18/10 but nearly irrelevent. Very cheap and economical.

None the less, the flatware is made from 300 series stainless steel. This designates the "other" metals present in the alloy to give it it's manufacturing properties. Namely Chromium and Nickle, however Molybdenum is often added to higher cost 310 Stainless to avoid pitting and corrosion. That being said, the mechanical properties of the materials are all nearly the same. The varying amounts of Chromium and Nickle are not significant enough to change it's overall tensile strength. This should not be confused with the much harder "Cutlery grade" metals designed to yield a harder cutting edge such as Type 420—"Cutlery Grade" martensitic which is a high-strength Iron/Chromium alloy

For typical 300 series stainless you are looking at 75 ksi tensile strength, 30 ksi yield strength. The yield strength is our area of interest and equals nearly 30000psi - that is Pounds Per Square Inch! Since our flarware is nowhere near a square inch, we need to run some conversions. After consulting the USS tables, it is revealed that 14 Ga. 304 stainless steel has a yield strength of approximately 14.7 pounds of linear pressure - in other words, not a tremendous amount.

What does all of this mean? Basically it means that almost any adult could grab that spoon and rotate it around and re-create that bend without any special tools or unique abilities. In fact, if you witness her technique you will notice that her first few bends are lateral planar bends - meaning straight up and down with no twisting. This will actually HEAT the metal and lower it's overall yield strength making the more complex helical bends much, much easier!

So, in short, there is no magic, no paranormal abilities, no nothing. Just pure science that absolutely any adult (Without arthritis) could easily replicate.







just like i said earlier... i BET that YOU cant do it.


these are some spoons she bent... which is pretty impressive for even the most cheapest spoons.




i still bet u cant do it.

you're nothing but ALL talk bro


mod edit: Please read this link-ATTN: Image Size Guidelines

[edit on 1-11-2006 by sanctum]



posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 01:15 PM
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I call B.S.

Anyone who has worked in a kitchen like Kozmo, knoooooows for sure that what she did is a bunch of B.S. with CHEAP cutlery.
Please, I'm almost speechless because this video is so stupid.

Watch the vid again and look at her face and the way she strains, look at her neck and chest when she does it.
COME ON PEOPLE

I'd love to see REAL spoon bending. I cannot believe this thread has made it this far, and then for a moderator to defend it..

B.S.

this should be thrown in BTS or the trash under "clip of FAKE spoon bender"

[edit on 11/1/2006 by aecreate]


TG

posted on Nov, 1 2006 @ 01:29 PM
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lol:


She should take the James Randi Million Dollar Challenge and make herself rich if she can really do stuff like that.

I guarantee that under test conditions her "powers" would mysteriously fail. But she would never apply as her claim is BS.




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