For those of you who have seen ghosts?

For those of you who have seen ghosts. I want you to consider this as a possibility and answer whether or not you think it's possible or probable that this happened.

Is it possible that ghosts are a ruse, and it's nothing more than a holographic image that's shown by ETs in order to scare people off. The idea is that they may just be spying on us to see what we are like and do not want to be uncovered.

Yes or no?

I've seen a ghost at night, with the moon light shining through the curtains, I saw a silhouette of a person come up from the floor and walk across the room, towards the door at the end of my bed.
Now my question to you is what would aliens be scaring me away from, considering I didn't feel too scared, just slightly amazed and confused at the same time.

I've seen plenty of ghosts myself. I did'nt think they were E.T.s Nor feel that they were an "alien presence".

Do you also think that when they're showing up as holograms that they also control our feelings at the same time? I think if they were'nt human ( or at least once a living human) I'd somehow "feel it".

I believe that sometimes the human soul keeping hanging around after death. It's just another dimension (here on earth) that we sometimes get a glimpse of.

The whole idea might work if one is "skeered" of haints n' such. I, personally, haven't ever been frightened by ghosts and have been involved in more than a few investigations over the years.

I always figured that if a ghost were to truly scare me ... After I die, I'll just hunt it down and kick its plasma-like butt!

Is it possible that ghosts are a ruse, and it's nothing more than a holographic image that's shown by ETs in order to scare people off.

Highly doubtful. At least doesn't seem consistent with the manner in which people report seeing ghosts. Why would aliens go through these measures anyways? To scare people out of a 100 yr old house? Sounds silly to me.

I think if they were'nt human ( or at least once a living human) I'd somehow "feel it".

Ummm... do you have some sort of 6th sense?

I do not believe in E.T's contrary to many claims that these 'visitors' are factual and living entites here on planet earth and possibly living amongst us.
Ghosts, spirits of previously living people, I acknowledge on the borderline of fact.
Many people will bear testimony to witnessing disembodied figures and visitations, myself included. I envisage no fine line between ficticious extraterrestial visitors and apparitions. I also doubt very strongly that all but a minute percentage of photographic/video evidence of ghostly images are the result of natural and/or unexplained atmospheric anomalies such as 'Brockens Spectre' and closely allied to nocturnal mirages. Illusions, state of mind, medication, stress, light anomalies and many more aspects could mould what we see but what we percieve we see is probably explainable in logical terms.
Concerning E.T., well I'll leave that to the sfx experts in the movie industry their creations have successfully planted many seeds in the minds of the ''I want to believe fraternity'

Now I will admit, the first time years ago when I first truly saw a spirit in the house I lived in at the time, I was scared. I guess because it was really trying to get my attention. With full body manifestations, orbs, strange sounds...the works. And me haveing no experience much with such things.

That's another thing, would'nt aliens try to be less conspicuous if they were "spying on us"? Why not just be invisible?

Since then, I've learned more about them and when I do see "odd occurrences", I'm more curious than scared or upset.

I seriously doubt the aliens are responsible for the occurence of spritual activity. I myself have had many experiences almost daily with such phenomena ***SHAMELESS PROMOTION OF MY THREAD**** www.abovetopsecret.com...
I believe that ghosts are in fact the departed soul of our bodies, the "concious" being of our physical state that makes us move, breath, etc. and not the brain/ nervous system. Those are just the vessels .

Consider a car, lifeless and inanimate untill a body gets inside. Souls have no "shape" but Ghosts may have the ability to project themselves as human form as they wish to do so, an image of how they still see themselves. They can communicate as well as they wish. It seriously is not ET playing with his cosmic flashlight doing "shadow bunnies" on our walls, etc.

Concerning E.T., well I'll leave that to the sfx experts in the movie industry their creations have successfully planted many seeds in the minds of the ''I want to believe fraternity'

Actually if you did any real research into the phenomenon you would find that there is a great deal of evidence.

www.ufoskeptic.org...

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I read an interesting point in Yahoo news about ghosts. How can a ghost walk across the floor and also go thru walls? Isn’t the ghost applying pressure to the floor as it walks?

So, what's the deal?

Originally posted by jbondo
I read an interesting point in Yahoo news about ghosts. How can a ghost walk across the floor and also go thru walls? Isn’t the ghost applying pressure to the floor as it walks?

So, what's the deal?

There is alot said about ghost's seeing what they would see when they were alive, so if a ghost walks through a wall, it's were a door used to be.
How could a ghost apply pressure to the floor??????????

I think that ghosts are some sort of energy left behind from when someone dies, in the form of an image. The energy would be some area of science which we have not discovered yet. Seeing as extra terrestrials are another undiscovered area maybe the 2 are related, maybe not.

And as for the walking through walls, well the energy that ghosts are made up of isn't the same as what our physical objects are made of, or isn't in the same realm or something.

Just a theory.

Think about how poltergeists can affect our physical things, maybe they are a different type of energy as well or they have escaped from their realm into ours somehow?

[edit on 28/10/2006 by malganis]

IMHO "ghosts" is a very general term that is applied to many different things. It seems that certain people/incidents can leave an impression in it´s environment that "capable" people can pickup and "play" at a later point in time. Actually quite interesting seen in the context about how we think about time as past/present/future. I believe this is the "ghost" known to walk through walls or making stairways quirk, tapping into our nervesystem either ear/brain or eye/brain and even the signals telling the brain that our skin gets cold/warm.

This "impression" i´m talking about...i suspect it works similar to how crystals absorb energy...or how a piece of rock feels warm after beeing in the sun all day even tho the sun has set and the air is cool.

This type of "ghost" should not be confused with the spirit/poltergeist/stuck dead people or even guides/helpers (which i believe might actually be the alien connection here).

Originally posted by BeMoreCynical
For those of you who have seen ghosts. I want you to consider this as a possibility and answer whether or not you think it's possible or probable that this happened.

Is it possible that ghosts are a ruse, and it's nothing more than a holographic image that's shown by ETs in order to scare people off. The idea is that they may just be spying on us to see what we are like and do not want to be uncovered.

Yes or no?

No. Why spy on us? Are we a threat? Of course not, we can't even co-exist with our neighbors.

I believe we are ghosts. After our physical life is over we become chemical/energy. We could possibly move vast distances since we will co-exist with other energies that make up the universe. I believe that the "afterlife" is the beginning of what we all wish physical life could be. But it could also be complete darkness, it hasn't happened to any of us, but we all have to reach that point someday.

BeMoreCynical

This is what I have learned from my spirit friends and alien friends.

The alien people are as alive and physical as we are. Their bodies are literally made out of and biologically match their home worlds, just as ours. Each race has a natural physical life span at the end of which, if everything goes well, their spirit crosses over into the spirit world, or earlier by illness or accident.

Ghosts are what we sometimes call the lingering spirits of people who have died, but we are always spirit, before, during, after and between lives. Actually, we "are" our spirits, not our bodies, and no spirit is entirely limited to the body during physical life. A part of us naturally travels outside of our body every day and night at will, whether we are physically aware of it happening or not. The advanced races are just more aware between body and spirit than we humans on Earth are yet.

Actual physical contact is rare for all races world to world. Alien experiences usually happen by spirit and not by body, both for us and for the alien people. In other words, we are both usually out of body when we meet- or speaking telepathically from some distance. The alien people also use dimensional technologies to be physically where we are, but safely in their own atmosphere and usually invisible to us. The final effect of every way of alien contact, if we perceive them, could easily make them seem like "ghosts" to us in our unknowing.

When we sense the spirit or life force of another being, that is by our own spiritual abilities, no matter if that being is in physical life, deceased, a member of our own race or another. We don't normally even notice the spiritual presence of our own kind who are alive, but when they are deceased and when they are of a different race, the differences in sensation stand out as sudden or unique. (We can sense all beings, not just races of people.)

Every race has its own unique "flavor" of life force, and also does each individual. And alive people feel different from dead people. Aliens and spirits also look and behave differently, and have different kinds of reasons and motivations for making personal contact with us. If you meet somebody "invisible" and can't determine who and what they are, just ask them.




[edit on 10/29/2006 by EarthSister]

Originally posted by BeMoreCynical

Is it possible that ghosts are a ruse, and it's nothing more than a holographic image that's shown by ETs in order to scare people off. The idea is that they may just be spying on us to see what we are like and do not want to be uncovered.

Yes or no?

Well is a problem with your theory, see, no everybody that has experiences with ghost has been scared to death.

Many experiences are quite pleasant.

Originally posted by EarthSister

This is what I have learned from my spirit friends and alien friends.

[edit on 10/29/2006 by EarthSister]

Loads of people say that and all come out with different stories, so who do we believe?

malganis

Loads of people say that and all come out with different stories, so who do we believe?

The only dependable way we can learn about the unknowns is from the unknowns themselves.

Don't just believe anybody making claims. Listen closely to people, consider their source and motivation, and think only for yourself.


[edit on 10/29/2006 by EarthSister]

My question is how can you have it both ways? In order to walk you have to apply force to the surface you are walking on. If a ghost is applying force to walk then logic would tell you it is a solid and therefore could not pass thru walls or objects. If it is not solid and can pass thru walls then how can it apply the force needed to walk?

I'm just wondering how this works? I'm open to theory....

I tend to believe what tomra said regarding ghosts being a leftover impression. Possibly the intensity of trauma involved with a death can leave a long lasting impression or I guess kinda like a photo negative. Imagine it as a 3D picture hanging in mid air instead of on the wall.

There is a physicality to spirit that is different from, but just as real as, the physicality of body. I know this because I have experienced it many times in many different ways with spirits, but I can't explain the science or nature to how it is so.

Some spirits of people who have died can move things, billow a breeze, and touch your skin causing physical sensations including heat, cold, tingles, etc. Some can make themselves physically visible in many different forms, though vaguely and briefly, including as sparks, shadows, and clouds of mist and sparkles. All of them can talk with us telepathically and be seen by mind in their own body form by those who can perceive them so well.

They can make noises that sound like specific things such as footsteps, and they can make actual noise as they step. As they practice, over "great" time, which is no time at all to them, their abilities may increase, but they are limited as spirit and still remain barely perceptible to most alive humans no matter what they may try to do to get our attention.

Similar to how alive humans can achieve use of their spiritual abilities at times, deceased humans can achieve use of their physical abilities at times. Advanced races of people are advanced both by body and by spirit, and have greater natural abilities alive and deceased equally, than we do yet.

Usually, when people die, they cross over into the spirit world which is in another place. But sometimes people get stuck between dimensionally and don't cross over due to a problem. Usually, these are the spirits that are hanging around us, trying to get our attention on some kind of a regular basis, or just independently coexisting in the same space with us without bothering us. These spirits have a different kind of situation from those who cross over yet may come back to visit loved ones briefly once in a while.



[edit on 10/30/2006 by EarthSister]