Science, Religion? What's the alternative?

(My personal beliefs do not necessarily reflect the following...)

I've been doing some research into the Illuminati. If this elite group is real and intends to bring the NWO into fruition, then what can we do? Science tells us one thing, and religion preaches another. Yet according to Illuminati believers, both of these ideologies are based on the works of Illuminati fiction. If this is true, then where is our true source of information? What is fact and what is fiction? If there is no science and no religion, what's our alternative?

If we can see through the Illuminati's lies (science and religion) then surely we can expose them.

Just a thought.


[edit on 24-10-2006 by thebox]

Huh? I don't believe that the illuminati made up all religions.

Its true the ruling elite of their times used religion ad religious rederic to sway public opinion, and effectivly creating a kind of 'reality-control'.

But the illuminati, for the most part, have only manipulated religion and science, not created them.

Most of the symbolism used today by the illuminati and corporations/countrys under their control are throw-backs to ancient Babylonian mystery schools.

This is why Hitlers Third Reich is such a good example of what the New World Order will be like. Hitler was fascinated with occultic symbolism, and rituals.

Hitlers fascination with the occult can be seen laced through out the SS(his CIA) especially, and all through Nazi Germany.

See, the outer circles of the illuminati are full of Satanism, and occultist rituals and teachings. But the few people on the very inner circles believe in nothing of the such.

They are smarter than to believe in that nonsense. their motives are drawn from gaining more and more personal profits, and power. And the ability to retain that $ and power from a safe distance.

At least,
thats what I think.

What happened to individualism? Why do we have to "follow" another's beliefs?
Follow what resonates true to you.

Everything has a basis of truth. It's up to us to follow that to it's origin. Not some groups idea of what the truth is but what is real.
It is somewhere to be found. But most are sheeple willing to be led to water instead of finding it on our own.

Most of the symbolism used today by the illuminati and corporations/countrys under their control are throw-backs to ancient Babylonian mystery schools.

But doesn't the history of the Illuminati hark back to those times also? If you disregard the name 'Illuminati' and look at illumination in general then it's quite easy to see. There has always been authority. It's just changed guises over the years.

Universal individualism would be fantastic but unfortunately people are still afraid to abandon their beliefs (I wonder how many even question their beliefs).

Originally posted by DDay
What happened to individualism? Why do we have to "follow" another's beliefs?
Follow what resonates true to you.

Everything has a basis of truth. It's up to us to follow that to it's origin. Not some groups idea of what the truth is but what is real.
It is somewhere to be found. But most are sheeple willing to be led to water instead of finding it on our own.

If it we're like that, we'd still have to follow a law system and be controled. It's best to work and help others out while you help yourself out. Why? Because it gets the job done faster...

It's best to work and help others out while you help yourself out. Why? Because it gets the job done faster...

But is it absolutely necessary to do everything quickly? What about careful deliberation?

If it we're like that, we'd still have to follow a law system and be controled. It's best to work and help others out while you help yourself out. Why? Because it gets the job done faster...

I agree with following a set of rules but the question was about science and religion and the alternative.

My response to that was why follow what people tell you to follow rather follow what resonates true and investigate the origin of belief and the proof of science.

Since the beginning of time we have been told to follow this guy or that guy and believe this way or we go to hell. Empires have fallen in the name of religion. If there was one truth we wouldn't be seeking a million different directions which IMO says that religion is man made.

Science is biased as well. We are only told what the governments allow scientists to tell us. Look how many are suspiciously dead or missing. What did they stumble upon that was worth their lives?

I believe that science and religion are one but viewed from different perspectives. It's those perspectives those of others that the mass tend to follow.

Originally posted by Great White Cheney
Huh? I don't believe that the illuminati made up all religions.

Its true the ruling elite of their times used religion ad religious rederic to sway public opinion, and effectivly creating a kind of 'reality-control'.

But the illuminati, for the most part, have only manipulated religion and science, not created them.

Most of the symbolism used today by the illuminati and corporations/countrys under their control are throw-backs to ancient Babylonian mystery schools.

This is why Hitlers Third Reich is such a good example of what the New World Order will be like. Hitler was fascinated with occultic symbolism, and rituals.

Hitlers fascination with the occult can be seen laced through out the SS(his CIA) especially, and all through Nazi Germany.

How many times does the Nazi occult theory have to be disproven? That is something that Jews and Christians came up with to battle what they consider the "forces of darkness." When one really researches it, there is no truth in the whole Hitler was an occultist theory. Hitler was a Christian, that, my friend, is the truth of the matter. Don't believe me? Read some of his speeches.